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Originally posted by Lubricus:
Anyway, I don't think any nation will be too weak if played somewhat cleverly by a human player. I guess that if it is so easy to hack the game as to allow any nation to be playable, it must be possible for a country like Crimea to build a navy. An colonies, I hope.

I don't know, i was regarding that in respect of the BG.In the minor countries AAR, i think none of the great powers were played by humans, so i guess it made matter in a way more easier.
 

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
my comments to other countries.


Austria- I am looking forward to a further cooperation between our two nations.
you will have our full support if you wish to unite the HRE under the Austrian rule.

Turkey- an alliance between our two nations is essential for survival of both Poland and Turkey. North Africa will be yours. further incursions into Europe will not be tolerated. this does not apply to Spain. you can take which ever Spanish provinces you desire.



Dear Polish ruler, Dear Austrian Emperor,

I agree mostly to your comments about the benefits of such an alliance.
But i believe you willn't ask me for a clearance to wage war in Europe so i don't agree that you put such restriction on me.

I think we should also have to clarify issue regarding the Balkans.
Vallachia and Moldavia start the game as vassal of the Ottoman Empire. It will remain like that. These are Orthodox countries, not Christians.
About Hungary, i think you should reconsider your point about it, We should partition it:
1) to have a uncontrolled christian medium sized power in the middle of our association would give a good opportunity to somebody to conduct diplomacy on it and threaten our backs at any bad time.
2) The additional buffer of these provinces would reassure each of us concerning any treachery
Originally posted by Field_Marshal:
Hetman: What do we do if Turkey does not remain loyal? All hell could break loose then.
(you aren't the only ones to be concerned)
3) It would shorten the way we could send reinforcement to each other and increase a bit each ones wealth.

Finally, i have to stress that, as long as our association stands, i have no claim on any territory of Poland or Austria as it is in 1492. Would you be in trouble, rest assured that the Turks willn't back stab you.

Kind Regards the mighty Sultan


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Dear Doge Mariani and Leader of the most illustrious Republic of Venice,

As most everyone seems to have accepted our plans for Italy, let us already decide how to partition the peninsula.

Obviously, a geographical partition seems wisest. After examining the map of Italia a little, I believe to have come up with a suitable plan, very close to your suggestion, as a matter of fact :

Venice gets : Mantua, Emilia, Romagna, Napoli, Apulia, and Messina.

Genoa gets : Savoy, Milan, Luca, Modena, Florence, Sardinia and Sicily.

I have not included Rome, as of course, it is a rather touchy subject. If however it is decided that it would be better governed under a Republic, I am willing to leave it to you.

This would bring our province totals to 9 provinces for Genoa, and 9 (or 10) for Venice. I believe this to be a fair partition, but if you believe otherwise I am fully ready to hear your suggestions.

I am also happy to hear that our goals are the same; large-scale conquest should be left to the vast nations. The advancement of the Catholic Faith and the european economy shall be our tasks!

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:

and just how are you going to get your troops near Poland?!?
how can you possibly get sufficient troops to attack me when Turkey, Venice and Austria are breathing down your back. you don't stand a chance against the might of the Commonwealth.
I see no reason why Austria and Venice can't be allies. as for the Polish-Turkish alliance, I have no problem with Turkish presence in Europe and we have a common goal, destroying you. the only reason why you wrote all this crap is because you know that our alliance is going to work, and you're affraid of the power it posseses.


I see the fear in your face. Remember that I have troops in Germany. Spain has LOTS of provinces over there. I'll soon be HRE and will be able to walk around Europe like my backyard.
Furthermore, consulting my archives I have notice that I'm the rightful ruler of a tiny country called Poland. Any other claiming to that throne will be expelled right now. I hope you are not one of those fouls.

But my Austrian, Venetian and Turkish friends told me that they want a piece of the Poland cake. Well, they are like children, you know, and you have no problem with Turkish presence in Europe...

Don't worry. You will always have a place taking care of my horses.

Best,

Laruku I, King of Spain and Poland
 

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TO CRUSADER:

my most honortable ally, I fear that you have made a misstake in your latest reply. you said that Moldavia and Vallachia were Orthodox countries and not Christian. you're right about the Orthodox part, but isn't Orthodox one of the Christian religions?
I always thought that Orthodox was a Christian religion. if I am at error then please inform me of it. but I don't believe that I am.

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Originally posted by Laruku:
I see the fear in your face. Remember that I have troops in Germany. Spain has LOTS of provinces over there. I'll soon be HRE and will be able to walk around Europe like my backyard.
Furthermore, consulting my archives I have notice that I'm the rightful ruler of a tiny country called Poland. Any other claiming to that throne will be expelled right now. I hope you are not one of those fouls.

But my Austrian, Venetian and Turkish friends told me that they want a piece of the Poland cake. Well, they are like children, you know, and you have no problem with Turkish presence in Europe...

Don't worry. You will always have a place taking care of my horses.

Best,

Laruku I, King of Spain and Poland
oh my dear Laruku,
you have made an error. you said that you're the rightful ruler of a tiny country called Poland. well go ahead and take control of it.
I don't care. you see, the Poland which I'm governing is considerably larger than Spain.

as for you becoming HRE, it's not going to happen, king of Austria will become HRE. I'll make sure of it.



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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
TO CRUSADER:

my most honortable ally, I fear that you have made a misstake in your latest reply. you said that Moldavia and Vallachia were Orthodox countries and not Christian. you're right about the Orthodox part, but isn't Orthodox one of the Christian religions?
I always thought that Orthodox was a Christian religion. if I am at error then please inform me of it. but I don't believe that I am.


You are right, i'm mixing my translations would you agree with term Catholic ?

What about the core of my message ?

Crusader
 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Congratulations, Hetman Polski!
You've found the perfect excuse to inflate your rank by creating large numbers of meaningless posts ;).

a technique you know well.


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Originally posted by Crusader:
You are right, i'm mixing my translations would you agree with term Catholic ?

What about the core of my message ?

Crusader

hmm, I'm not sure what you mean. I'm having a feeling that the core of your message states 'KEEP AWAY'!!!!!! am I correct?



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Originally posted by Vurbil:
Could each country please give me their thoughts, feelings, concerns, comments, etc. on France? I would like to know how you stand. Here is where I currently stand.

Turkey: We are very interested in a military alliance with your nation. Although we would prefer that you not expand any further in Europe, we fully recognize and support your efforts to reach the Indian Ocean and would be willing to offer military assistance to reach this goal.

Austria: We are also interested in a military alliance with your nation, if it can be conciled with our relations with Turkey. Although we do not support a war on Turkey to remove them from the lands they currently occupy, we do support a freeze on any further expansion by Turkey in Europe.

Poland: I recommend a royal marriage and full military alliance with Poland, although I am a bit concerned with the breadth of your plans. It seems to me that they will plunge Poland and perhaps Europe into continual strife which I doubt will benefit Poland in the long run.

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My dear French friend,

First let me state that i regard your mighty kingdom with great esteem. I have some concern about provinces in the Balkans, i hope to resolve these matters as peacefully as possible. I actually have no necessity to attack anyone but the possibility stands.
I want just to make sure that my security isn't in jeopardy.
My plans to the South and eastern mediterranean sea as well as my security are my first concern for now as well as any muslim state of North Africa, Middle East and Caucasus which i consider in my sphere of influence.
I expect to reach stable relations with my neighbours in Europe. I don't even have any direct conflict with Spain for now apart from his probable support to the Knights and the tension he has with my northern friends.
As for the Indian ocean, we will see what can be done.

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Originally posted by Vurbil:
Laruku I,

Would you pledge to stay neutral in a war of liberation for Calais, given my assurances that the sole goal of France would be to liberate its own territory?

Hi, Vurbil.

It depends on England being my ally or not. I have no claims over France, but I always honour my alliances.

Laruku I of Spain and Poland
 

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nonetheless, they still are christian nations. as your vassals or provinces they would cause needless rebelions. they would be more useful as my possesions. I am willing to negociate. how about any two hungarian provinces for Moldavia and Vallachia?

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
oh my dear Laruku,
you have made an error. you said that you're the rightful ruler of a tiny country called Poland. well go ahead and take control of it.
I don't care. you see, the Poland which I'm governing is considerably larger than Spain.

as for you becoming HRE, it's not going to happen, king of Austria will become HRE. I'll make sure of it.

Huh? I won't allow such insolences! Your only hope it's to be one of my VASSALS. So, I'll free the poor Prussian from your rule.

If not, you're doomed against Sweden, England, Russia, Prussia (hehe!), Hansa, Denmark, Austria, Turkey (your 'ally') and Spain, of course. To be under my protection is your only choice.


Laruku I of Spain and Count of Gniezno (the remains of Poland after the war)
 

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My dear Turkish friend, I don't see why you are concerned about Spain supporting knights?
you're not going to attack knights because I have plans for Rhodes. do we have an understanding?

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Originally posted by Laruku:
Huh? I won't allow such insolences! Your only hope it's to be one of my VASSALS. So, I'll free the poor Prussian from your rule.

If not, you're doomed against Sweden, England, Russia, Prussia (hehe!), Hansa, Denmark, Austria, Turkey (your 'ally') and Spain, of course. To be under my protection is your only choice.


Laruku I of Spain and Count of Gniezno (the remains of Poland after the war)


you never cease to amuse me. I think I'll make you my royal jester after I partition Spain.


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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
nonetheless, they still are christian nations. as your vassals or provinces they would cause needless rebelions. they would be more useful as my possesions. I am willing to negociate. how about any two hungarian provinces for Moldavia and Vallachia?


I might agree to release Moldavia, i will have to think about it. But Wallachia has to remain mine, it is only two provinces away from Contantinople. As for Hungary, i plan to claim 4 provinces if we partition it.

The Sultan