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To Dark Knight

We have misunderstanding. I am Pomeranian Prince ruler of Hanssa. Now Sapura and others wish to crown me the King of Poland as well. Hanssa is mine to rule, Poland will be. And I will support war with Ottomans as soon as my succession to the throne of Poland is finished.

Your friend Prince of Pomeranian, King of Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.

 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
To the future King of Poland

I agree to support your claim to the Polish throne (by force if necessary) . I have no problem with your gaining control over the Hansa territorites. However, I propose that you first help me to push back the Ottoman Empire. A successful war against the Turkish infidels would secure Poland's southeastern border, making it much easier to later destroy the Hansa.

he can't help you fight the Turks without armies of the 'Commonwealth'. and he's not getting them. I intend to secure my southern borders. by partitioning you with Turkey.



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Originally posted by Lubricus:
What is this? In my short absence the pathetic Orthodox Russians have become bold! Haven't we made it clear that Russia won't last a fortnight?
Surely Poland and Crimea are still going to annihilate the Muscovites!

Ahh at last, I was afraid I had to send my army out of Mosow to get the pleasure of killing your armies, and I would then either loss my front place set or have to go with the army on campaign. And then they nice graves we allready digged for your troops would be useless. When should I await you?

About Ukrain, since they did not ask for empeial protection I have to conclude that the revolt had nothing to do with religion or wanting to return to the Mothernation and that they just was revolting pesants. And any punishment the polish lunatic can think of is propaly to good for them.

the Tzar

 

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Originally posted by Pomerania Prince:
To Dark Knight

We have misunderstanding. I am Pomeranian Prince ruler of Hanssa. Now Sapura and others wish to crown me the King of Poland as well. Hanssa is mine to rule, Poland will be. And I will support war with Ottomans as soon as my succession to the throne of Poland is finished.

Your friend Prince of Pomeranian, King of Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.

I'm going to type it in slowly so you can understand:
Polish magnates support me, not you.
Lithuanian Nobles support me because Jagiellonians are a Polish-Lithuanian dynasty. Piast is only Polish. Lithuanians will never accept you.
Ukrainians can't support you because Ukraine is nothing but a wasteland. and Ukrainians have been enslaved and they are being shipped off to slave-markets all over the Muslim world.


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comment about the letter to Sapura:
Sapura didn't loose any armies. in order to loose armies, he has to have some in the first place. a mob of Ukrainian peasants with sticks and stolen sabers don't count as an army.


From my understanding it is Hetmans job to control the army not the Kings. In Poland Kings are weak and ruled by nobility. I will change that. And your international policy sucks. You have only enemies, even Ottomans ignore you.

Hetmans are the generals of armies. They are responsible for conducting wars. Kings are responsible for diplomatic efforts. So to me Hetman Sapura has the army support, and your policy put this great country into civil war

 

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
Originally posted by Janbalk:
Please he is a renegade catolichs not one of my orthodox brethren. Or have my intelligence service made a misstake? Sapura please define your situation.

As protector of the Orthodox faith a feel a responisblity to help my ukraninan brothers IF they should desicde they can no longer coexist with the roman church.

the Tzar

it's too late for any hep from you, you heretic. Ukraine is in flames!!!!!!!!!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
cackle*cackle*cackle

If I have understod the rules the poles have for deciding who is theire king, thats the most crazy noble in the land and now have Hetman Polski finaly proved that he is.

His own catholic hetman turns on him and he torch the entire Ukrain, a rich an innocent part of his own country, only so he can keep the illusion that the Ukrainans are revolting and not his own army. If somebody burn his dinner, will he then torch Krakow? or will impailing few innocent bystanders do?

I would advice all nations still having diplomatic contact with him only to send replacable diplomats to him.

Its far from me to tell the Patriarch of Rome and whoever is the Emperor of West how to manage but he is a disgrace for the whole Christian Faith, abd such behaivor would not be tolerate in Mosocw.

the Tzar




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[This message has been edited by Janbalk (edited 16-10-2000).]

 

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To: Both clamiers to the polsih Throne
From: The King of Denmark.

What are we to do. How are we to chose from either of you. We considered both our allies before this entire conflict started, and now we must consider one of you an enemy. What makes the situation worse is that we have no idea of your stenghts. You both claim to have the support of the army, but that is impossible. So we have to make a choice. Prince of Pommerania, future King of Poland, and Sapura the mighty we support your claim to the throne. We also accpet your offer of Stockholme and an extra Finish province. Also we agree to the Royal marrige and am sending my son Prince Hans to marry one of your daughters. As part of the marrige we suggest we both give them a province to rule as dukes wiht the understanding that the title shall pass on to their Children. This will forever cement our bond. Polaski we are sorry it came to this, but he gave us the better offer and it looks as if he shall win this fight. Untill further notice the Danish fleet is now patroling North Poland in order to engage enemy Polaski allied ships. We hope the Naval forces of the true King Pommerania will support us in this move.

in other events a loan has been taken out and 5 warships as well as 30 cannon, 3000 infantry and 8000 calvary have been drafted. The remainder of the loan shall be spent on fortifications all over the land.

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To Hetman Polsk and all interested in polish civil war.


Polish Nobles support me. Sapura is the example. Hungary, Bohemia, Hanssa, support me, You are Lithuanian not Polish like me so you have no right to polish crown. Like you said Ukraine will not support you because it is wasteland, and the people love me because you are selling them into Mongol slavery. Lithuanian nobles know that without Poland they will be Russian slaves shortly, so they have a choice.

a) support you and loose polish help ( if they survive the war against me and my allays). Become Russian or Teutonic Order slaves.

b) Support me. Keep Commonwealth united. Save their lives and property. Keep their rights to populate Ukraine. Save themselves from Russian, Teutonic Order occupation. Be a member of most powerful country in central Europe instead of Slaves.

To hetman Polski former King of Poland

And lastly you have no tact. You treat, brag and cry like low born peasant. where is your class. I explained to you before that this war is not my idea and that I have no problem with your person only with your ability to control domestic problems. Instead you accusing me of expansionism and low intelligence. You also treat other rulers like they are nothig. They my be weak but they are the Kings,

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To my friend king of Denmark.

We are so happy after we received your replay. My child is impatiently waiting for your son to marry her. Yes think too that they should receive their own domain. We think that 2 provinces are more prudent. One from My possessions one from yours. Say North Germany region.

My Hassian navy will help you in upcoming conflict with Sweden as soon they finish securing Polish coast. As you know whole international community is supporting me in succession to the throne. Also domestically I am the favorite. I believe that civil war will be very short and Hetman Polsk will be removed from the throne. I will offer him as a slave to Ottomans because he loves them so much.

Ukrainians are fed up with his aggression towards them. So am I. I can believe he sold his own citizens into Muslim slavery. He is mentally ill.

Your friend and ally Prince of Pomeranian, King of Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.


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As all can see Hetman Polski lost control of Poland and friendship of most of Europeans Countries. Me as new leader supported by Hetman Sapura, King of Denmark, King of Hungary, Duke of Bavaria, Ruler of Bohemia, Pope in Rome suggest that you direct all diplomatic efforts to me when concerning Poland or Hanssa League.

Your servant Prince of Pomerania, King of Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.

 

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To Hetman Polski

There is 50,000 Janissaries garrisoned in my northern provinces ready to help you, should you need them against your internal or external enemies. May i suppose that your Prussian and Austrian friends are commited to
your support.

The Mighty Sultan

 

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To the king of Hungary,

Could you tell me what will be your destination of exile so i can arrange your transportation ?

The Mighty Sultan.

 

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Originally posted by Crusader:
To Hetman Polski

There is 50,000 Janissaries garrisoned in my northern provinces ready to help you, should you need them against your internal or external enemies. May i suppose that your Prussian and Austrian friends are commited to
your support.
To all Christian Rulers.


As you can see Ottoman empire is not only planning to spread into Hungary, Austria but also into Poland. The former King of Poland is so desperate and mentally ill that he is asking Muslims for help. Are you going to allow spared of heretics into Europe. Are you going to support a King who allays himself with Ottomans or me.


The Mighty Sultan

 

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TO CRUSADER:
I can see that you are a devoted ally. for that I respect and thank you. The 'Commonwealth' will be your eternal friend. we will not forget this. We will repay you by giving you 500,000 Hansa slaves.

TO DENMARK:
I have no intension of leaving the throne. I'm affraid that your inaddequite forces will have to face Sweden on their own. the 'Commonwealth' won't be sending any relief armies.

TO THE TREATEROUS HANSA:
Poland no longer exists. Lithuania no longer exists. they were replaced by the 'Commonwealth'. the Piast dynasty no longer exists. they were replaced by a stronger, superior Jagiellonian dynasty.
Jagiellonians aren't Polish, they aren't Lithuanian, they're the dynasty of the 'Commonwealth'.

TO RUSSIA:
Sapura is a Polish rebel who joined Ukrainian
peasants. Ukrainians weren't citizens of the 'Commonwealth'. they just happened to live in the land controled by the 'Commonwealth'. I consoder them squaters.
BTW, I suggest you start building mosques. you will be under Muslim rule soon.

TO AUSTRIA:
I haven't heard from you in some time now.
are you going to stay loyal to me or are you going to turn on me?

TO PAPAL STATES:
From now on, the 'Commonwealth' is a religion free-zone. people will have right to choose their religion. the Pope or any other religious leader has no influence on the 'Commonwealth'.

TO EVERYONE WHO DOUBTS MY POWER:
As I had said before. Sapura only controls a small group of Cossacks and Tatar mercenaries. he has no control over the forces of the 'Commonwealth'.
The Sejm has given me full control of the army and the resourses of the 'Commonwealth'. the Sultan of Turkey has generously given me 50,000 janissaries. that equals up to the total of 207,000 soldiers.
who wants a piece of this!!!!!!!!!

TO THE GERMAN PRINCIPALTIES:
you can either stay neutral and defend the HRE. you can be my friends and destroy the few weak enemies which I have. or you can be my enemies and die.
which will it be?

TO SWEDEN:
as you might have noticed. I have no desire to attack you. You can either become neutral and fight off Denmark on your own. or you can be my friend and you wiull be given the entire Scandinavia (Including Jylland), and Hansa provinces.
which will it be?

TO PRUSSIA:
are you still going to be my ally?

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TO POMERANIA PRINCE:
you're obviousy a push-over.
just look how Sapura is controling you, and his forces are much weaker than your own.
the 'Commonwealth' deserves a strong monarch like me. rather than a son of a peasant like you.

 

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TO POMERANIA PRINCE:
you're obviousy a push-over.
just look how Sapura is controling you, and his forces are much weaker than your own.
the 'Commonwealth' deserves a strong monarch like me. rather than a son of a peasant like you.

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To the Hansa ruler,

To murder and usurp the legitimate king of a Christian kingdom is hardly a Christian act.
And by the way, i'm a very tolerant ruler in regards of religion. My Elite corps of Janissaries are Christians as well as some of my ministers but i don't think you can share such tolerance in regards of Orthodoxes or Muslims.

The Mighty Sultan.

 

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You call enslaving Christian boys to be part of your personal corps of troops, not allowing them to ever practice their true religion, and then ordering them to kill fellow Christians--this you call tolerance?

 

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
TO CRUSADER:


TO EVERYONE WHO DOUBTS MY POWER:
As I had said before. Sapura only controls a small group of Cossacks and Tatar mercenaries. he has no control over the forces of the 'Commonwealth'.
The Sejm has given me full control of the army and the resourses of the 'Commonwealth'. the Sultan of Turkey has generously given me 50,000 janissaries. that equals up to the total of 207,000 soldiers.
who wants a piece of this!!!!!!!!!

To all specially to Hetman Polski.

I think you need history lesson. We are in 1500, Poland or any other nation will not have 200,000 solders till Napoleon. In 1411 battle between Teutonic Order and unified forces of Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania and even Russia we had only 55,000 on all sides together. In !700 before first Polish partition Polish army had only !00,000 solders. I don't think we had 200,000 on all sides together under battle of Vienna between Ottomans and Polish German coalition.

So as you all can see Hetman Polski is so mentally ill that he is imagining 200,000 strong army.

 

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To Vurbil, King of France
We Hungarians still remember the assistance that France gave to us in repelling the Turkish invader in the 14th century. We hope that you will not join any alliance of which those infidels are a member and will abandon former King Polski.

To the Sultan
It is you who will need to find a place of exile after the combined forces of Poland, Bohemia, Hungary, the Knights, and Venice drive you from the Balkans and liberate Byzantium. The Hagia Sophia will again be a Holy Church.

 

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Well, I agree, those number are unrealistic, but they are the numbers in the game.