- Nov 25, 2010
I hate to jump on bandwagons, but try and do a little research before you say stuff like that. Otherwise, I'll just forget this ever happened, mainly since'll probably do something like this one day.
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So was Cuba and various other communist states that were targeted by large scale outside efforts to destabilize them. If anything, I'd suggest that communism was more successful in the catholic world then in the protestant world.And a lot of support towards Communism. About comparison with this AAR, in fact, there is more White insurgence than in OTL.
And what if a lot of support came from Catholics? Any religion fight against atheist ideas, and, in Spain, the core of Anticommunism wasn't only the Church. There was a tradition of reaction against any progresist ideas since 1812.
PS: It is a very Catholic nation.
Fair enough, it was an assumption. But its not propaganda and not very ignorant an assumption if it was an idea spread and practiced by influential members of the movement.The actions of two individuals can hardly be considered representative of the Socialist movement as a whole.
What do said aged people think of these ideas? They have every right and reason to be offended by the idea and I'm sure many are.Fair enough, it was an assumption. But its not propaganda and not very ignorant an assumption if it was an idea spread and practiced by influential members of the movement.
I didn't really think someone would find the idea offensive: it makes sense in some circles. Some people feel that keeping the severely handicap alive is a waste of resources. Some think the aged should have the right to suicide. With the emotional attachment out of the way, ritual suicide would be a way for a Party to know that the people are loyal to them, eventually becoming a desired cultic practice toward the state; much like life in Imperial Japan.
I find it funny that when a topic comes up that might bring bad publicity to their point of view, everyone starts beating their chest in lamentation: "Oh no, oh no; blasphemy!" When, really, the idea is not unheard of and its morality is not black and white to some people.
I've been asked many a times by older persons "you'd die for your country, wouldn't you?!" I assume this means they would if they could.What do said aged people think of these ideas? They have every right and reason to be offended by the idea and I'm sure many are.
Also, this wouldn't discredit the Marxist POV as it is not a socialist ideal.
This implies that Imperial Japan was Communist. Also, let's not forget that this AAR is set long before any of those state-worshipping regimes came into existance, so it's completely plausible that they won't exist in this timeline.Ritual suicide doesn't sound far fetched when you consider that almost all communist states have a history of state worship and cults of personality; again, think back to Imperial Japan.
Agreed.Yeah, the whole old people euthanasia makes us look like Enewald, so let's drop the subject?
This is basically the Revolutionary faction I just introduced. Go Sorel!On a side note: With the Comintern staring to fracture and other gripes rising to the fore, wouldn't now be a great time for those "Democracy-terrorists" to start whisperin' in the peasants ear that they could have it all? No more price haggling. Equal voting. Positions given by merit, not by "communist-mindedness"...
We agreed to drop this/Suicide?
Call it freedom of death.
Hard. Late 19th century, industrial revolutions brings more suffering to the lower classes, even though we as 'socialists' govern for their best.We agreed to drop this/
Oh dear sweet...