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Wrong we shall not invade our brothers and bring misery to their nation.
We shall liberate them, all of them, we shall set them free, strong under one flag, our flag.
with soldiers?
 

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Wrong we shall not invade our brothers and bring misery to their nation.
We shall liberate them, all of them, we shall set them free, strong under one flag, our flag.
Killing innocent people exploited by their ruling classes, their eyes closed from the truth. War is not the path our nation should follow, we should enlightened the victims of the bourgeois without conflict and bloodshed of our already enlightened citizens.
 

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Victory! I petition we follow our momentum by invading some small, pitiful German state!
Why are there more Marxists in the cabinet and as many anarchists if the Socialists won?
Lamentably my preferred candidates have not gained victory but we shall try, try again.

I am worried by the fact that the victors have allowed the Marxists three cabinet positions when no other faction has more than two. While I did not vote for the GS either, it is indeed curious.
The problem here is the simple fact that there is no way the number of Marxists can be reduced. Marx will simply not allow Engels to drop out of the Central Committee - I'd go as far as to say that if Weitling tried to force Engels out then Marx would leave and with him the Marxists would break from the People's Party thus sending the VSVR into a possible Civil War.

Weydemeyer is the only real military figure, he is a war hero who commanded the revolutionaries to victory over Prussia and the Netherlands. He's intensely popular and there is no one who could possibly replace him. So he has to stay.

Blanqui on the other hand .... well lets just say brave is the man who tries to remove Blanqui from the Central Committee. He has the ability, the personality, the powerbase and the popularity to bring our fine Republic tumbling down if anyone tries to destroy him politically. The only realistic situation in which the great French revolutionary would leave (without a major purge) would be if there was a revolution in France. That does not look likely at this stage.

Sorry, forgot that i voted.
As I suspected. I just have to make sure I come down harshly on repeated offences otherwise I might lose control of the AAR.

Dear comrades of the People’s Party I admit it is with mix feeling I receive news of the German Socialists victory in resent election. Mark my word Glorious World Wide Revolution will not be achieved at the barrel of a gun like any other petty imperialist ideology, the People’s Party will be looked upon as oppressors by the very same people we seek to free. Those same people will resent us every step of the way we seek to break there chains and we will push them back in to the bussom of aristocrats and capitalists ,forever ending any hope of revolution. No I say the VSVR must be a light in the darkness ,a shining star in the dark world that we live in, if the VSVR leds by example people will look to us and see that they really have nothing to lose but there chains. If we do this No force no matter how powerful, No god no matter how great, No army no matter how big will stop the Revolution.
So next time vote anarchist and Revolution will be ours.

P.S. Great aar tommy I have bin one of those silent reeder for about a year or 2 but I could no stay out of this. And let me now if this count as spamming or to much roll play.:rolleyes:
Of course this does not count as spamming. I'm not sure if you saw Realpolitik but people (me included) got to the stage where they would just constantly post slogans and flame eachother. It was fun whilst it lasted but the AAR was totally uncontrolable for TRP and for the mods and it lasted something like a week.

As for rollplaying just so long as you don't create an entirely fictional character and start adressing eachother by that name it is fine. So for example if you in that post introduced yourself as Hermann Fiddlesticks and then someone else called you Comrade Fiddlesticks then that would be too much rollplaying. ;)

Anyway, welcome and I hope to see you continuing to comment. :)

Sorry comrade Necazian I do not think I said that if I can quote my self
I am surprised that you missed that its the first line. But honest mistakes we certainly all make them (especially me if I might ad:confused:)
As comrade Loli says, a revolution by the barrel of a gun will be no better than the failed and corrupted revolution of 1789.
Loli, I think you were looking at the wrong part of his post for the reference to you.

Victory for the German Socialists. Now lets invade our pityful neighbors before they get wind of what is comeing:)
Indeed. It was key policy of the German Socialists for us to be as militarily agressive as possible. I've now played the 5 years and I promise you a war. ;)

Never thought I'd see the day that Feuerbach was in an AAR...

Awesome stuff; very informative.
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Feuerbach!

Achtung!

At the request of Kandon I have created a Contents page on the 2nd post of this AAR (convienetly just bellow the rules ;)). With so many comments compared to my posts this could be useful for anyone who doesn't want to sift throught all the comments to see my updates.
 

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While liberation at the point of a bayonet is not ideal, how else are we to free the proletariat outside the VSVR from the weight of their (heavily armed) oppressors?
 

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They are weak, they are being exploited, they will look up and say here come the liberators, they bring freedom, they bring glory they bring FOOD :)
 

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The VSVR 1850-1855

Following his narrow victory at the party ballot box the first Chairman, Wilhelm Weitling, faced a mixture of bitterness and strained unity across the non-German Socialist section of the People’s Party and jubilation from his own supporters. On January 14th, just one week after taking office, he unveiled his new budget.



The budget was unveiled by Proudhon, the Commissar for Finance. The Anarchist leader had effectively had the terms of the budget dictated to him by the German Socialist whips. Tax for the poorest was set at 25%, for the middle strata at 35% and for the wealthiest at 50% (5% above the level pledged by Weitling in the election – this was a clear move to try to satiate the Marxist lobby who called for more aggressive action against the ruling classes). Meanwhile the 3% tariff promised to native industry was provided whilst the military budget was raised by a further 5%. Proudhon’s one achievement in getting his own policies pushed through into the budget was a substantial cut to the funding for the Republic’s bureaucracy (funding was slashed to 1/3 of its pre-election level). In industry the steel works in Westfalen were reopened as was the armaments factory in Dusseldorf (the Ruhr) both were to be provided with subsidies by the state whilst the other factories were supposed to provide for themselves (much to the chagrin of their Unions).



The most symbolically important part of the entire budget was the healthcare reform. The Rhineland already had an, admittedly woefully inadequate, private system of healthcare which had been designed to cater merely for the well off. In the budget this system of hospitals and clinics was seized by the state. However this limited reform to the healthcare system was not well funded enough to provide the free national healthcare supported by the Marxists and instead the publically owned health service didn’t function that differently to the past. Now people would be forced to pay 2/3s of the cost of treating them instead of the entire cost. The government had effectively taken control of an industry and provided it partial subsidies. Despite angering the left of the party who wanted more and alienating the right for expanding government power the reform was quite popular with the public who appreciated the fact that healthcare was now open to thousands of more people even if everyone was not yet able to afford it.



‘’Terror is nothing else than swift, severe, indomitable justice; it flows, then, from virtue."

Within weeks it had become clear that the requisitioning of the property of the ruling classes was not going to be nearly as easy as the revolutionaries had hoped. There was but one man within the upper echelons of government who they knew could deal with this problem – that man was Blanqui. On March 19th 1850 the Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution (AKBC) was set up and Blanqui was made Chairman of the Commission. The AKBC was effectively an internal secret service that functioned totally outside the rules of the state – Blanqui was given carte blanche to ‘remove’ the disruptive elements of the ruling classes.

Initially it is clear that Blanqui attempted to remain unobtrusive to society. He sent men to inform land owners and industrialists that their property was being requisitioned and informed them of the three choice system proposed by the Chairman – they may leave the country, join the proletariat or face execution. However these wealthy individuals quickly deployed every disruptive technique possible to slow the AKBC’s work to a halt. The definition of someone who was a member of the ruling class was wrangled over as was what a proletarian was, letters were sent to dozens of people within the People’s Party who fought for more lenient terms of the wealthy. By September Blanqui had achieved next to nothing and sent a now infamous letter to Weitling in which he requested support from the Chairman for what amounted to a program of terror.

Weitling responded by giving him 10,000 crack, ideologically infallible, soldiers and order to eliminate the ruling classes by any means necessary.

Blanqui quickly dispensed with the trials and all sense of equality. These people were no longer citizens of the VSVR, they were enemies of the state and of the proletariat. Between September 1850 and March 1851, when his mandate was expanded from merely dealing with the ruling classes to securing church property as well, it is estimated the AKBC was responsible for some 35,000 deaths.



Whilst Weitling had promised religious freedom in his electoral campaign he had been forced to clamp down on Christianity in particular due to attempts by the churches of the Rhineland to use their flocks as anchors against being swept away. Laws were rushed through that made it illegal for anyone to protest against church property acquisitions – the punishment for and enforcement of this law was handed over the AKBC (meaning that there would be no protection from VSVR law).



It was in August 1851, at the height of the Red Terror, that 3,000 men rallied around their church in Munster. This self proclaimed White Army that aimed to topple the People’s Party and replace it with a more moderate government quickly came face to face with Blanqui’s AKBC soldiers and was totally annihilated. After a brief intensification of the Terror after the Munster rebellion Blanqui declared his work done in November 1851. Around 150,000 people had been killed but Blanqui had somehow successfully transferred all the property of the ruling classes into the hands of either the state or the people in barely a year and a half. His methods may have been unscrupulous but his achievements were extraordinarily successful.



From early 1851 a rapid modernisation of the VSVR rail network began. During the 1840s a small, ragged and unreliable rail network had been built up across the country. Advancements in the field of industrial science made it possible to upgrade this network. As a sign of solidarity with the Unions the state agreed to a part-Union, part-State run modernisation campaign. Within the Ruhr the state paid for the rail modernisation and would subsequently run the network whilst in the upper Rhineland and Westphalia the Unions paid for the modernisation and in return they were given the responsibility to run the network. Control of these railroads, it was hoped, would encourage the Unions to try to develop the less prosperous outlying territories of the Republic (this aim was far from being fulfilled even by 1855). Instead wealth and industrial growth remained heavily concentrated in the Ruhr.



This early period of the Republic also saw a flourishing of classical culture. Ever since the proclamation of the Republic leftists had been flocking in their droves to the Rhineland to experience the greatest social experiment in the history of mankind in person. Several prominent writers started to draw comparisons between the Republic and classical states, one English author wrote an extensive treatise in which he argued that the Rhineland was the ultimate destination of all states that strive to achieve Athenian democracy. For in the VSVR, more than any state since Athens itself, there truly was a democracy for in the VSVR the people did truly rule.

Whilst the chaos of the Red Terror had meant death for thousands and had desperately disturbed the lives of thousands more it would be folly to focus upon it. For within a short time the living conditions of the average Rhinelander started to increase significantly whilst the economy proceeded to rapidly expand and the people, for the first time in centuries, had full confidence in their government. However much of the Rhineland’s most of the Rhineland’s growth had been built on two commodities – coal and iron. The Rhineland controlled the greatest concentration of coal on earth so this was no problem however it possessed no iron ore reserves whatsoever. However just across the border in Belgium (a nation unprotected by a Great Power) there was an abundance of iron ore and an unhappy proletarian populace. The Walloon Crisis would be the single most important political crisis of Weitling’s time as Chairman between 1850 and 1855.

Belgium was one of the first countries on earth to experience an industrial revolution. By the 1830s its industrial capacity could only be matched by France and Britain. However the unabashed support the government of Belgium gave to its industrialist had caused the total collapse of this industry. By 1852 Wallonia’s once mighty industrial base had ceased to exist as the factories had closed down and the capitalists had moved elsewhere. This hard luck story had greatly agitated socialists within Belgium and in January 1852 the Belgian Socialist Vincent van Geyte sent a plea to Weitling to provide arms for the people of Belgium to rise up against their King and establish a Republic like the VSVR. When this letter was spread around the Central Committee it provoked fiery debate.

Weitling strongly supported the idea of expanding the Republic into this territory of national interest although it alienated many of the more Germano-centric German Socialists. Proudhon called for Blanqui (who was also in charge of the secret service) to send arms to van Geyte but not to put the lives of Rhinelanders at risk (Belgium had only recently destroyed a Dutch invasion and had even occupied Amsterdam before a peace was signed). Marx, meanwhile, refused to commit to one side or the other. Personally he was mildly in favour of spreading the revolution into foreign lands (this would help assure many doubters that the Republic was not a Germanic institution but an international one) however much of his faction were fearful of the reaction of France (Engels championed this side of the Marxist faction and Marx was unwilling to openly go against his closest friend and ally).

In the end the decision was put before the Central Committee. Three voted against war (Engels, Proudhon and Bakunin) two abstained (Marx and Eccarius) whilst four voted in favour (Weitling, Feuerbach, Weydemeyer and Blanqui).

The United Socialist People’s Republic was going to war! On March 12th 1852 the VSVR declared war upon Belgium and within a few hours some 48,000 soldiers (around half of them conscripts called up for the invasion alone) poured into Belgium.



On April 17th the first battle of the war took place at Arlon as the Belgian army attempted meet the invading force head on. The result was a mauling at the hands of the more modern and much better trained Rhenish troops. Marshal Weydemeyer (the man in overall command on the war) then ignored the advice of his more cautious Generals on the ground and had the Belgians pursued to Namur where they were subsequently annihilated. With the Belgian Army broken the war was effectively over by mid May but the Belgian government refused to surrender ½ of their country – from the point of view of the Walloon elite in government this was also the better half.



However a summer of unrelenting advance forced the Belgians to give up hope of retaining the South of their country. With most of Wallonia occupied and Brussels itself surrounded the King of Belgian signed away the Francophonic half of his Kingdom.



1/3 of VSVR citizens were now Walloons. This dilution of the German nature of the Republic was not met with much enthusiasm back in the Rhineland. Problems were only heightened by the fact that Wallonia needed a significant amount of support from the Cologne government. The factories were reopened and provided with subsidies whilst the state funded a program of modernisation of the rail system to the Rhineland’s recently improved standard. What’s more the literacy rate of the entire Republic dropped from 84% to just 63% after the annexation – this exemplifies the much poorer nature of the new territory. The annexation also brought France to the brink of war, if it wasn’t for an emergency mission to Paris by Friedrich Engels the French would have invaded. Engels managed to convince the French to back down from war by promising to turn the Republic against Prussia and Austria in Germany (the French were uneasy about was in the first place and a promise of further disunity in Germany sealed their support for peace).



From 1853 the Ruhr saw the start of a 10 year boom that would further transform the already heavily industrial province.

Over the course of 1850-1855 VSVR industry grew by 50%. Whilst the annexation of the un-industrial Wallonia had skewed figures for growth in factory workers for the country as a whole in the Ruhr factory workers had gone from making up 15% of the population in 1850 to making up 20% in 1855. An incredible achievement. However over the course of the 5 years every single factory in the Republic had gained government support through subsidies – by bowing to the Unions in this way Weitling had made his nation’s industry totally reliant on the support of the state.
 

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The anarchist would have kept the literacy rates high.
Well yes, but only because they wouldn't have invaded anyone. Literacy rates dropped because Wallonia was added to the republic.
 

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Comrades, the idea of our workers' state as a German one has become impractical. The internal policies of this government are only a hair's breadth from those of Comrade Marx. It is time for the two factions to put aside their differences. Long live comrades Marx and Weitling! For Unity!
 

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Well yes, but only because they wouldn't have invaded anyone. Literacy rates dropped because Wallonia was added to the republic.
Perhaps adding the Walloon people as an autonomous republic under the union would be a solution to the worries of some of the party members.
 

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Perhaps adding the Walloon people as an autonomous republic under the union would be a solution to the worries of some of the party members.
To split our great republic before the revolution is even secure? Such talk is madness. We must not allow petty nationalisms to divide the workers. Nationalism as a tool to increase the workers' power, as an emotional appeal to unite the workers, perhaps. But to divide them will serve only the capitalists and reactionaries.
 
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Perhaps adding the Walloon people as an autonomous republic under the union would be a solution to the worries of some of the party members.
The idea of an autonomous Republic is one I'm interested in attatching to one of our factions. I'm just not sure which one. The Marxists and the Anarchists are both internationalists (with full citizenship) so I doubt they'd want to split the Republic on an ethnic basis. Meanwhile it was Weitling's German Socialists who took the bloody thing. I'm sure the Trade Unionists would be in favour of this idea (being the only through and through Germano-centric faction) but as we say in the last election they are totally insignificant (IIRC they got less than 4% of the vote with just 2 people supporting them). I will have to give this some thought - rest assured that Wallonia will be one of the main issues in the coming election alongside the like of electoral reform and the future direction of our foriegn policy.
 

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Perhaps adding the Walloon people as an autonomous republic under the union would be a solution to the worries of some of the party members.
On the contrary, creating seperate states would impede the eventual Marxist goal of a stateless society. It is the eventual goal for the republic to become obsolete; that is to unite all states under socialism and then disband, creating a stateless, Communist society. When that is accomplished, our job is done. (either that or we get swamped with rebels and quit, just like the Carlists :))
 

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The idea of an autonomous Republic is one I'm interested in attatching to one of our factions. I'm just not sure which one. The Marxists and the Anarchists are both internationalists (with full citizenship) so I doubt they'd want to split the Republic on an ethnic basis. Meanwhile it was Weitling's German Socialists who took the bloody thing. I'm sure the Trade Unionists would be in favour of this idea (being the only through and through Germano-centric faction) but as we say in the last election they are totally insignificant (IIRC they got less than 4% of the vote with just 2 people supporting them). I will have to give this some thought - rest assured that Wallonia will be one of the main issues in the coming election alongside the like of electoral reform and the future direction of our foriegn policy.
[OOC: I think that supporting an autonomous Wallonia would be consistent with the German Socialists' ideology, I mean just because they conquered it doesn't mean they want it to be part of the nation proper. They can still paint themselves as "Liberating the Wallonian proletariat". They just want them to develop independently. A kind of "brotherhood of nations" type of thing.]
 

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For the good of the Revolution, the Germans must continue to dominate the government. The Walloons, while an industrious and civil people, do not have the proper spirit of Revolution, at least not yet. Let them learn on the periphery for a while whilst Germans continue to defend the principles of the Revolution!
 

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First of all, Well done to the people's army for crushing the armies of the Reactionaries inside and outside the state. And also for liberating the Walloons from the ruling class. Another glorious victory for the revolution!

Comrades, this revolution is not just for the German working class but for the workers of the world! I agree that our new territories are poor but it's not our fault. It's the Whites who are responsible for this! They've done this to fatten themselves up. The literacy rate is low because they want the people to be ignorant, gullible and clueless.

These are just minor setbacks, comrades! We must educate them, provide jobs and show them the glory of Socialism. No one will be left behind!
 

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For the good of the Revolution, the Germans must continue to dominate the government. The Walloons, while an industrious and civil people, do not have the proper spirit of Revolution, at least not yet. Let them learn on the periphery for a while whilst Germans continue to defend the principles of the Revolution!
Ha! Such generalisations betray simpistic thought. There are many Walloons who are more revolutionary in character than many Germans. Language defines nothing. Be careful where you tread, comrade, or you will re-introduce inequality to our classless society. And the most ugly type of inequality, too, inequality based on ethnicity. I concur with Comrade Zzzzz... that education is the key here, not ethnic domination.

[OOC: I'd just like to note that I'm speaking in character and am not actually insulting you ;)]
 
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