...let´s destroy as much as we can before reinforcements arrive.

[UP-Cedric]

Hello,

I am new to this forum and have a question:

Can a regular division destroy infastructure, like factories or dockyards?
I imagine a scenario where you outflank an enemy with a very fast unit or use a few amphibian or airborn troops to deploy behind the front line to wreck heavoc by blowing up some industial buildings.
Another scenario could be that you have to retreat and and use some units to blow up infastructur before you fall back to prevent them from falling into the enemies hands.

So, is this possible or can only bombers damage factories and dockyards?

Thanks!

 

[LordOfWar16]

Factories can be destroyed by you, yes. It is very usefull if you are on the retreat and want to deny the enemy additional factories. Infrastructure and such not, but it will get damaged when there is combat going on in that region.

Enemy stuff cant simply be destroyed, no. You'd have to use bombers for that or straight up capture them.

 

[UP-Cedric]

Well, does that mean if I conquer a region and see enemy reinforcements arriving I could "blow up" factories there and retreat, because at the moment the region is mine?
Or do I have to hold a region longer or conquer a whole province/state to gain access to the industy based there?

Imagine if I played as France and had made a serious push into the "Ruhrgebiet" in 1939 instead of waiting behind the Magenot line.
My attack is successful and I had managed to conquered the area.
The germans fall back, regroup and concentrate forces to push me back over the Rhine.
In the meantime, can I sell/dismantle/destroy the german industry before I retreat back to the Magenot line, because at the moment I "own" it?

Sorry if I sound a little retarded here, but I am not very familliar to the game mechanics of the Hearts of Iron series, althought I love the concept.

 

[Premu]

Well, does that mean if I conquer a region and see enemy reinforcements arriving I could "blow up" factories there and retreat, because at the moment the region is mine?
Or do I have to hold a region longer or conquer a whole province/state to gain access to the industy based there?

Imagine if I played as France and had made a serious push into the "Ruhrgebiet" in 1939 instead of waiting behind the Magenot line.
My attack is successful and I had managed to conquered the area.
The germans fall back, regroup and concentrate forces to push me back over the Rhine.
In the meantime, can I sell/dismantle/destroy the german industry before I retreat back to the Magenot line, because at the moment I "own" it?

Sorry if I sound a little retarded here, but I am not very familliar to the game mechanics of the Hearts of Iron series, althought I love the concept.

Hm, at least in older versions of HOI the infrastructure and other installations in a province was damaged when a fight occured. It also happened when it changed the owner. So I assume that this will happen automatically in any province with ongoing fights.

 

[Jmland]

As for infrastructure, as the OP said, you will have to bomb it (Logistic's bombing for roads etc). In HOI4, to repair things you have to dedicate factory production (which is a change from HOI3). I don't think you can logistically bomb a province that you still own, I think you have to wait for the enemy to walk in first.

 

[Will Steel]

HoI4 version of razing mechanics? Yes please!

 

[General WVPM]

Probably Russia will get the possibility to move their industry again, it would lower the industrial values of some provinces and increase it in others.
Besides that, you probably can damage industry through combat and bombing, but to destroy it, I really don't know.
As far as I'm aware, Paradox isn't fond of scorched earth tactics...

 

[The Wholly Thoc]

I'd imagine it'd be far to easy to abuse, especially in MP. There probably will be events, like the russian one. It wouldn't be too realistic for a retreating army to effectively disassemble the whole country anyway, damaging Infrastructure and factories would be interesting if it took some time and maybe organization to create a temporary setback for an attacker in a balanced way.

 

[shri]

Russia and also China should get events to ship the factories to the interiors.
If Germany gets badly bombed by the RAF, around 1942+ they should also get events to move a lot of Industry to General Government Poland.

 

[wright1331]

Well, does that mean if I conquer a region and see enemy reinforcements arriving I could "blow up" factories there and retreat, because at the moment the region is mine?
Or do I have to hold a region longer or conquer a whole province/state to gain access to the industy based there?

Imagine if I played as France and had made a serious push into the "Ruhrgebiet" in 1939 instead of waiting behind the Magenot line.
My attack is successful and I had managed to conquered the area.
The germans fall back, regroup and concentrate forces to push me back over the Rhine.
In the meantime, can I sell/dismantle/destroy the german industry before I retreat back to the Magenot line, because at the moment I "own" it?

Sorry if I sound a little retarded here, but I am not very familliar to the game mechanics of the Hearts of Iron series, althought I love the concept.

To sum up what others were saying...

When you battle into a province the infrastructure/factories/ect get damaged and have to be repaired. Also, whenever the province changes owners this also happens.

So in your example: If you take the province from Germany; then they take it back from you it will be damaged upon them taking it back, AND if they have to fight you for the province it will receive more damage.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Probably Russia will get the possibility to move their industry again, it would lower the industrial values of some provinces and increase it in others.
Besides that, you probably can damage industry through combat and bombing, but to destroy it, I really don't know.
As far as I'm aware, Paradox isn't fond of scorched earth tactics...

thats in, it was shown in some screenshots. It moves some factories from the states close to the front further inland. You will loose a few factories, tho.