Let Athens form Greece

[Camarada78]

I find it strange that Greece can only be formed as a released Morea or Achae. Athens is already there, is already of greek culture and has the historical capital of the Greeks... Why not Form Greece with it?

Am I missing something?

 

[Camarada78]

Athens has the "Form Italian Nation"...

 

[neondt]

Athens doesn't actually have Greek primary culture. You can form Greece if you culture shift.

 

[balmung60]

Athens is a Lombard crusader state, not ye olde Greek Athens. If you want to form Greece, you'll have to culture shift.

 

[Mattius]

I think there should be special mechanics for crusader states (Cyprus, The Knights, Athens)

 

[Fluffy_Fishy]

I think there should be special mechanics for crusader states (Cyprus, The Knights, Athens)

Why? They often die out quite quickly and are not really relevent beyond around 1600.

 

[Camarada78]

I think there should be special mechanics for crusader states (Cyprus, The Knights, Athens)

Yeah, it should have. A simple decision for Athens after becoming independent or if it resists as a vassal until 1650 (the end of crusades) would be something like this:

"An Independent State"

*Greece must not exist.
*Bizantium must not exist.
*Must be catholic

- Greek becomes primary culture.
- Athens gains 1BT.
- Gain claims in all greek region.

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I think culture shifting a bit lame.