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Oh dear god. Good luck man, you need it.
 

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Oh, that would be great, but I really doubt Japan could stave it off. You have to remember, in this game Japan is a mid-sized power between two giants (the Draka and the USA); Japan's situation is more like Poland in real life, between Russia and Germany. :(

I was hoping for Korea to not fall under the Draka..... :(
 

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billy bob said:
Oh dear god. Good luck man, you need it.
It's not all that bad. Just like fighting a super-USSR. With first-class tech teams. Wait, actually you're right. . .

frigidmagi said:
Just keep your head down and keep hitting the Dragon in the gut!

Best of Luck.
Thanks.

Kang Seung Jae said:
I was hoping for Korea to not fall under the Draka.....
I was hoping that Japan would hold up, but alas no. If all goes well, they might not be under Drakan domination for too long.

Delex said:
Well if you dont edit the game the Draka are beaten easily. What did you edit more exactly to give them advantage?
Let's see:
  • 10 million strong army
  • Infinite (or near enough) stockpile of supplies
  • 2000 convoys and 500 escorts
  • a goodly amount of industrial supplies
  • techs in one crucial area--wait for next update to see which

This makes for a real challenging game. I did very well against them in the beginning (first year or so) but then it became a real challenge, fight-to-the-death. It's like fighting Barbarossa, but on a much bigger front, and then fighting on another front just as intense but more compact.
 

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Breakthroughs​
"The Draka will pay for using this weapon against the German people. The Draka are fools to think it can be used against us without fear of retaliation. For each time they strike at us with it, the Reich will hit back five, ten, twenty times as hard! For each German they kill, we shall repay them a hundredfold!"
--Adolf Hitler, 1945

The following is an excerpt from The Greater War: A Brief History of the Eurasian War:

. . . failed defense of the Suez, the German paratroopers attempted a second line of defense in southern Palestine. The Draka, outnumbering the Germans by a factor of 20, smashed through the lines (see Fig. 1). At this point the German forces forced a retreat to German lines 300 km to the north. Of the 90,000 paratroopers that participated in the attack, only about 45,000 would make it back to German-held territory.

draka131.jpg

Fig. 1​

By June of 1944, the situation for Germany was somewhat good (see Fig. 2). Wehrmacht forces had captured Anatolia and northern Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, though resistance was increasing considerably with several million Janissaries strengthening the Drakan lines. For Japan, however, the situation was bad. Most of the Japanese home islands were now occupied by the US, and Drakan forces had pushed the IJA back to Korea and Southeast Asia. The Emperor vowed at this point to fight on to the last man.

draka132.jpg

Fig. 2​

Four and a half more months would see the results of the previous trends consolidate (see Fig. 3). German lines in the south were pushed back to Anatolia and the Caucasus with the arrival of much of the Drakan army; Japan lost the rest of the home islands its mainland territory, apart from Southeast Asia. From that portion of Asia it would continue its fight, as a shell of the Japanese Empire, until its final defeat in 1947.

draka133.jpg

Fig. 3​

On December 4, 1944, the Wehrmacht began its second invasion of the Sinai (see Fig. 4). This time, however, it landed with the necessary forces. 180,000 German paratroopers landed on the Suez; they were soon backed up by Italian regulars. Eventually more than half a million men would be shipped to the Sinai: German paratroopers, Italian and Spanish regulars, and elements of the German Seelöwe force.

draka134.jpg

Fig. 4​

By January of 1945, the landing force captured much (see Fig. 5). The Sinai, half of Palestine, and part of Egypt fell into German hands. In the north, Italian forces were finally beginning to arrive in large numbers to bolster German troops in southern Anatolia and the Caucasus (much as Hungarian, Romanian, and Scandinavian forces did on the Eastern Front).

Both the Italian and German forces, however, were not enough to keep Drakan Janissaries from punching a hole in the line and threatening to cut Anatolia off from the Caucasus. The Wehrmacht saw this as an opportunity, and began an assault on Drakan positions in northwestern Persia, in order to surround the huge Drakan spearhead force.

draka135.jpg

Fig. 5​

The ploy worked, and the Drakan force was surrounded. German and Italian troops then attacked the surrounded Drakan force. The Battle of Kars, as this engagement would come to be known, was the largest battle of the war so far: almost two million men were a part of it on both sides.

draka136.jpg

Fig. 6​

After close to 36 hours of hard fighting, the Axis forces finally won out, destroying the Drakan force of more than a million Janissaries. This was a major coup for Germany, as it knocked out a tenth of the opposing army in one blow.

draka137.jpg

Fig. 7​

By March, the Suez force had linked up with Heeresgruppe Kaukasus (see Fig. 8). At this point the Axis force began three thrusts: south along the Nile, west across Egypt and Libya, and east across Mesopotamia. Drakan forces in Mesopotamia were soon routed, and would not put up organized resistance until the Axis force was almost in Persia.

draka138.jpg

Fig. 8​

Halfway through April saw German forces advancing on all fronts (see Fig. 9). In Africa they were almost at the farthest point of advance in Sudan and Ethiopia, as well as in Libya. Most of Arabia had been captured, and the advance in Mesopotamia was going well.

On the Eastern Front, the OKW came up with a plan to create a breakthrough: German forces would concentrate and thrust through Drakan forces north of the Caspian. They would then turn south, then back west to surround the largest Drakan force on the front. Hitler approved the plan, and the attack began on April 15.

draka139.jpg

Fig. 9​

The Draka had their own plan for a breakthrough (see Fig. 10). Drakan scientists had finally created a superweapon: the atom bomb. In order to create a large enough force to break through Drakan lines, the Wehrmacht had thinned the rest of its eastern lines (particularly in the south). This force, concentrated close together for the breakthrough, was the ideal target for an atomic strike.

The Drakan exploded their bomb over Uralsk on June 10, 1945. The German force was decimated, and the Draka took advantage of the hole in the German lines. . .

draka1395.jpg

Fig. 10​
 

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KILL THEM!!!!
Evil Snake Scum!!!
 

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I thought that victory at Kars had changed the tide of the war. However, the atomic bomb in Uralsk may change this, too.
 

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both clever and incredibly stupid for the ai. that atomic bomb was exceptional use of a weapon where normally they just hit berlin if they could. however this has to be countered by them completely leaving the suez area open to attack, and letting themselves get surrounded like that. im surprised 79 of your divisions could take out over 100 of theirs, are they really crap or were they disorganised?
 

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How is your atomic program? And the ICBM program?
 

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Wooot!
How is that even possible, AI thinking?
They are going to win!
half a millon german soldiers dieing in some minutes... worser than Verdun...
Maybe allies should do something soon...
Japan holding in Kamchatka?
Great!

Magnificent update!
 

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Ewh, that was one hell of a backthrow... Never seen the AI pick such an ideal target before
Yeah, not so good for me. :(

ColossusCrusher said:
KILL THEM!!!!
Evil Snake Scum!!!
Working on it, chief.

Kang Seung Jae said:
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! KOREA!!!!!!!!!!!


Dang, the AI is certainly smart..... How many divisions did you lose?
Don't worry, Korea will be fine. . . Jeju is still free. That helps, right?

I didn't lose any full divisions, as it was only a mark I atom bomb. However, they all lost about half their strength, and all of their organization; basically, they'll eventually be back to full strength, minus lots of experience. In the mean time, the Draka are going to hit right through that point in the line.

Kurt_Steiner said:
I thought that victory at Kars had changed the tide of the war. However, the atomic bomb in Uralsk may change this, too.
That's why it's breakthroughs, plural. Which breakthrough will be bigger, the Axis in the Middle East or the Draka on the Eastern Front, will basically decide the war.

Delex said:
You actually want to tell us that the AI made a such smart move (Were your forces destroyed or only very exhausted after the attack)?
I gave the AI the techs, the reactor, and got it to build the strategic bombers; it made the attack itself. In reality, I don't think its that surprising--Uralsk is basically right next to the airbase the bombers came from.

My forces are at about half strength and have lost all of their organization.

BritishImperial said:
both clever and incredibly stupid for the ai. that atomic bomb was exceptional use of a weapon where normally they just hit berlin if they could. however this has to be countered by them completely leaving the suez area open to attack, and letting themselves get surrounded like that. im surprised 79 of your divisions could take out over 100 of theirs, are they really crap or were they disorganised?
Berlin's out of range for them; they would have hit it if they could, I'm sure.

The problem with the Draka is that they just have so much coastline, and I don't know how you change the AI to defend a certain area (ie the Sinai).

The Drakan divisions were pretty disorganized; they had just attacked Kars and then marched across the mountains to get there, and I had bombers harassing them all the way there. Also, they were cut off from supplies and surrounded, which always helps.

Stefke said:
ut in any case the draka AI file would have to be programmed to cover suez. but definetly i think historicly it would be possible for the draka to slip out on the suez since their army is huuuuuuge
They won't though, because they don't retreat. They're gonna be destroyed, or conquer Europe, no in between.

Viden said:
How is your atomic program? And the ICBM program?
The atomic program has a small reactor online, but no where near where it needs to be--it'll be in the next update. For ICBMs, the program is further. We're already using V-2s, and soon we'll have whatever the third tech is. I think that by '48 we should have real intercontinental ballistic missile.

Enewald said:
Wooot!
How is that even possible, AI thinking?
They are going to win!
half a millon german soldiers dieing in some minutes... worser than Verdun...
Maybe allies should do something soon...
Japan holding in Kamchatka?
Great!

Magnificent update!

They might win; that's what's made playing this so interesting. And it's not totally destroyed; more like 250,000-300,000 dead, which is still more than Verdun.

As for the Allies, they keep hitting my allies' navies, but not really doing anything against me directly; they're focusing on Japan. Speaking of Japan, no Kamchatka fell to the Draka in the middle of '45.

And thanks for the encouragement.

cloneof said:
Does even Celts or the french have an army, that could replace your dead germans on the battlefield?
I actually use the French, Celtic, and English armies to defend the western coast of Europe, to war off the Allies. But I have most of the Hungarian, Romanian, Italian, Spanish, and Scandinavian armies in the trenches; all together, they make up about half the force between them, and the rest is German.
 

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"But my Leader. . ."

"There will be no arguing. Where the German soldier sets foot, the German soldier stays."

"But my Leader, if we take up a defensive line along the Kuban and in the northern Kaukasus, we can hold it until winter; we can contain the threat. Then we can be ready for the Spring offensive."

"Where the German soldier sets foot, the German soldier stays!"

The following is an excerpt from The Greater War: A Brief History of the Eurasian War:

. . . German nuclear project, led by Werner Heisenberg, had been working on a nuclear bomb for years. However, though they had all of the theoretical knowledge and the blueprints for a full-scale reactor ready, they had only gotten a small reactor set up (see Fig. 1) due to funding problems. After the Draka bombed Uralsk, German poured all of the money it could into the project, however, and the reactor was ready to almost double in size in a little more than a year, getting it ready for bomb production.

draka141.jpg

Fig. 1​

The Drakan army was advancing past the former German lines (see Fig. 2). What had been a hole in the German lines caused by the detonation of an atom bomb was expanded by attacking the small formations along the line almost back to Wolgostadt (formerly known as Stalingrad).

draka142.jpg

Fig. 2​

The Drakan advance could not be stopped by the Wehrmacht, still recovering from the bombing (see Fig. 3). All of the defensive lines they set up were crushed by waves of Janissaries, and would be for several months. In Persia, the Draka began their offensive against Axis forces.

draka143.jpg

Fig. 3​

By the end of September, the Drakan forces had almost gotten all the way to the Black Sea. This would cut Heeresgruppe Kaukasus off from Heeresgruppe Ost (see Fig. 4). While that did not mean much logistically--Heeresgruppe Kaukasus could always be supplied through the Balkans--it meant a big blow to the German morale.

draka144.jpg

Fig. 4​

By December the German lines were set (see Fig. 5). As winter came, the Wehrmacht was finally organized enough and in good enough defensive positions behind the Don River to push back any Drakan assaults. In the Middle East, the Drakan army had captured most of eastern Mesopotamia, and were set to do more before the year's end.

draka145.jpg

Fig. 5​

In Africa, too, the German army was on the retreat (see Fig. 6). Where once it had all of Libya, and had advanced into southern Sudan and Ethiopia, now it was defending a narrow strip of northern Sudan and on the retreat in Libya. . .

draka146.jpg

Fig. 6​
 

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phew, you managed to stop the advance... for now... maybe try peace with allies?
Maybe they could even do white peace now? :confused:
Not much fighting recently, I think...

Maybe just hold the line at Suez... and hold it... but that would mean another nuke... :(
 

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Realistically, I don't think the Allies would sign a peace at this point. If Germany begins to decisively defeat the Draka, they will have to do SOMETHING to prevent a massive Axis empire spanning Eurasia and Africa.