Just wanted to add to this. I played and subbed for Flamey as France for this Friday session.
Flamey don't get too mad at me, but you have a fair bit of income going to loans. Those loans were given to France by the Ottoman Empire for a massive war that happenned. With the cash loaned by the Ottoman's and the cash given by England to France. France used every penny to fight a massive war against Austria, Spain and Venice. In the end 4 provinces were taken from Austria and a stalement against Spain basically forced peace on all warring parties.
As to Austria, there isn't much left of Austria now. I think they are down to 4 provinces. They lost 4 to France, 3 to the Ottoman's, 9 to England, 1 to Brandenburg, and 2 to Venice. They also had Bohemia break away with 3 provinces, Bavaria, Hessen, and Saxony broke away with 1 province each. I guess you've already figured this out, Austria's government collasped.
I want to stress that this was never our intention to let Austria be destroyed this way. Warmonger who played Austria played them very poorly. What truly is sad is players who SUB for another player but don't take the responsability for their play and not play for the long term. Not play to keep a nation intact. Instead we witnessed a player who drove his nation that he was Subbing for to the ground.
I simply do not understand the reasons for the actions done by Warmonger. Warmonger basically destroyed Austria in one session and made them unplayable as well. Something I have very rarely ever seen happen in a MP game. Austria was NOT his nation, nor was it his right to decide if Austria should be broken up or destroyed. Yet the mindset and the ability was VERY lacking and I am utterly disappointed that a player like this cared so little when it came to subbing for a nation.
If Pibe is coming back from his hiatus, then he would be truly disappointed to see what happenned to his nation. I think players like Warmonger need to realize that if they ever want to join a major MP game in progress, they had better start maturing their playstyle and be alot more responsable to the nation's they play.
One last thing, I had France goto war on China in the last few years of the session, but before I could take any lands, China's government collasped. France is still well positioned to strike into China, with 20 thousand troops in Shanghai which I left their when a white peace was forced on me, and another 60 thousand in Japan.
Duma