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Lepanto (scenario)

Country: Venice

Difficulty / A.I aggressivness: Normal / Normal (I like play like this 90% of the time)

Start Year: 1520

Venice starts with 900c in the treasury. This is more than enough to spend on fortress defences for such a small country. I spent 1/2 of my inital treasury funds to upgrade fortresses in all my provinces bordering on Hungary, Austria and Turkey.

Venice starts off with 38,000 men. Ten thousand of which is cavalry + 30 field artillery pieces. As for naval forces, the first Venetian fleet is already rather large counting in at 20 warships, 8 galleys and 5 transports.

Diplomatically speaking there are possibly alliances to be made with Hungary, Austria, Poland, Moldavia and Wallacia. Infact any country that borders on with Turkey. At the moment I have defensive alliance with Hungary and Austria.

One of my primary goals will be to build a large naval fleet to counter Turkish strength growing in the Mediterranean.


Now for some financial information for Venice as of the end of 1520 in this scenario.

My merchants are active in several COT's (centers of trade around the world), most notably Genoa, Danzig and Vienna. Venice owns a COT and at the moment we have a monopoly there earning us a handsome 196c per year.

1521 - June (Venice), pre-war.

Finanical Summary

Tax Incomes 9(x1.10) 10.0
Goods Production 7(25%) 1.8
Trading Incomes 21(29%) 6.4

Total 18.2 per annum.

Investements.

Land tech: 2.0
Naval tech: 2.6
Stability: 1.6
Infrastructure: 1.7
Trade: 2.3

Total -10.2

Monthly balance: 0.3
Inflation is at 10%.
Stability +3

1523-1524 * Persia and Iraq join our anti Turkish alliance after extensive a$$-kissing)
Turkey, meanwhile is in an alliance (potentially the most powerful in the game at this time) with Poland and Sweden.

However I doubt much that Poland would ever go to war and actively help Turkey out. Their relationship is at -03.

* My merchants continue to make waves in Genoa & Danzig increasing their per annum intake and forcing out many other competing traders.

* My ports begin to grow as the shipyards continue building and growing our naval fleet. There are 2 major fleets now, one in Venice and one in Istaria.

* Venice is also continuing to grow its land forces but rather slowly. Most of the emphasis is on non military research.


1524-1525 * Venice moves 1/2 of its entire fleet to the as yet undefended islands of Venetian Crete and Cyprus Small garrison forces are also conscripted there between 1-3,000 men just incase.

* Royal Marriage with Wallacia. Talks with Wallacia and Moldovia about joining our anti-Ottoman alliance fail however. Both states are neutral-friendly towards me however they do not wish to join an active alliance against the Turks in fear of starting a war.

Their states mirror the vast Balkan provinces of the Ottoman Empire stretching all the way to Constantinople, Athens and further east beyond the Black Sea.

1525-1526

* Venice continues conscription / deployment of its land and sea forces for the inevitable war with Turkey to come soon.

* England allies itself with Turkey.

(note: I started this war to see what sort of an effect this would have on the strength of Turkey and how its allies / my allies would react to it, how active they would be in the war and what the final result of the clash would be)


Venetian alliance (Hungary, Austria, Iraq, Persia) vs. The Turkish Alliance (Poland, England and Sweden) War.

Declaration of war, September 3rd 1526.

a) Venice declares war on Turkey.

b) Sweden agrees to support Turkey (Poland / England do not). I knew Poland wouldn't agree to actively battle against its European countries.

c) Hungary, Persia and Iraq agree to join the war. Austria dishonours the alliance.

As a consequence of this battles explode all over the Balkans and the Middle East. However, just imagine if Poland / England agreed to go to war. It would have turned central Europe into a massive deluge.

Phase 1. Opening moves, border clashes and initial sieges.


a) Kosovo taken by Venetian soldiers in October of 1526. The city falls quickly because it has no adequate defences.

b) Two of the three Turkish armies (2 armies of 25+ men) in The Balkans retreat (or march south) to Constantinople and onto the middle east to face the combined assaults there by Iraq and Persia.

c) Hungarian troops cross their borders and assault Beograd (Serbia) and capture the province. In December these same troops move south-west and capture Sarajevo (Bosnia)

d) Iraqi and Persian forces battle Turkish armies near Damaskus, the Ottomans slowly attaining the upper-hand.

additional: There are no Turkish field armies in the Balkans by the end of the year, all have moved to counter the threat on Syria and Damaskus. Very good news for the Hungarian-Venetian forces.

Beginning of 1527.

Phase 2. Naval wars in the Mediterranean, continued ground war: Initial Turkish gains are countered by the anti-Ottoman alliance.


a) The Turks assault Venetian Crete with a large sea fleet and nearly 40,000 soldiers. They land their expeditionary forces and begin a long uninterrupted siege in Crete.

b) Back in the middle east assaulting Iraqi armies are driven back from Damaskus and the Ottomans assault and capture Kikuz. The Persians invade Syria and begin assaulting Damaskus whilst the main Turksish armies are busy in Iraq. Ottoman re-inforcements are slowly making their way from Constantinople.

c) Venetian armies capture the city of Thessaloniki (Macedonia) from the Turks in January of 1527. A sea invasion by the Turks of Cyprus is defeated with difficulty.

d) After a sustained assault lasting for 2 months, Persian forces capture Damaskus (Syria) a major Turkish stronghold in February.

e) Venetian armies continue their relentless assault south and capture Preveza (Turkish Albania) at the same time.

f) several exhaustive naval battles between Venetian and Turkish fleets in the eastern Mediterranean from the end of 1526 to mid 1527 end in a severe reduction of Turkish strength in the Mediterranean for several months. Crete however is still being assaulted by a large Turkish force, however it is defending against them extremely skillfully.

g) Trapzon (on the coast of eastern Black Sea) & Mosul (to the south) provinces of the Ottomans are under siege by Persian forces. The main Turkish army now moves to assault and possibly recaptured occupied Damaskus with help from fresh re-inforcements from Constantinople.

h) In April of 1527 Venetian forces continue their unstoppable rampage south and capture Athens (Greece, Hellas) after a bloody siege and the loss of 50% of their artillery pieces.

i) In June of 1527 after several months of siege by 40,000+ Persian soldiers capture Trabzon on the Black Sea.

ii) The Turks recapture Kosovo & Damaskus during the same time. 50,000 Turks assault and manage to recapture Damaskus slaughtering the surrendering Persian soldiers.


Phase 3. Continued drive by the Venetian armies, emergence of major Turkish fleet re-inforcements and the subsequent peace.


a) Corinthia (Morea) is captured by the main Venetian army after an exhaustive day long battle with a very strong 6k Turkish force in the field.

ii) Towards the end of June, Hungarian forces re-capture Kosovo

b) A large Turkish army from Constantinople moves into Macedonia to recapture the territory but is met by continued Hungarian cavalry harassment.

c) Main Venetian forces in Greece split to counter the threat by the Turks in Macedonia whilst moving on south to capture more Turkish territory. As a result Naxos is captured by the Venetians in August of 1527, whilst a 15,000 man Venetian force comes to the aid of the Hungarians & Macedonia and repels the exhausted 20k Turk force there.

d) The Turks continue to bleed themsevles dry at the walls of Candie in Crete. Most of its infantry has been depleted. Venice is unable to send help to this city busy in other parts of its realm.

e) Iraqi forces re-capture Kikuz from the Ottomans.

f) A massive Turkish fleet of over 60+ ships moves into the Mediterranean and immediately forces the much smaller Venetian naval forces to disperse after several defeats. The Turks finally capture Candie in Crete after 8+ months siege and the loss of over 20,000 men.


Venice decides on a resolution to the war knwing that Cyprus will be next. Venetian / Hungarian attacks into Kosovo are repelled over several months by the incredibly strong and disciplined Turkish army there working alone to counter both forces. In the Middle-East Persian forces hold some Turkish provinces, Damaskus is back in Turkish hands but the city is destroyed. Iraq counters to recapture Kikuz.

In September a peace is signed forcing the overstretched Turks to hand over Serbia (to Hungary) and Trapzon (to Persia).

The Ottoman Turks have been severly humbled and bloodied in this war.

Financial Summary (1527)


1527 September (Venice), after peace.

Finanical Summary

Tax Incomes 9(x1.10) 13.0
Goods Production 7(25%) 1.8
Trading Incomes 19(25%) 6.1

Total 15.3 per annum.

Investements.

Land tech: 0.1
Naval tech: 0.5
Stability: 1.0
Infrastructure: 0.9
Trade: 1.0


Inflation is at 13%
Stability +1

^ As you see the drop in investements was due to my use of treasury to fund the war effort against Turkey.

Time to change back from a war-driven economy..

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good stuff Sap - on the med, but shouldn't you keep Turkey at least a little bit stronger?

I mean If they are humbled too much by Austria you could very well be swallowed up?

'Divide and rule' use your money to keep power and play the others off agains't each other (this is someone who has never played the game getting overemboldened - Sap, is is possible to do what I have just said, keep other countries 'balanced' while you slowly increase in power)

Shouldn't you move into Italy? It would gain stength at the expense of a few small one or two province nations...

lookin' for answers and demanding victories :),

(and ooh look - I'm a forum veteren, how did that happen???)

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I mean If they are humbled too much by Austria you could very well be swallowed up?


They weren't humbled by Austria. They were humbled by the anti-turk alliance. Venice (played by me) and others.

Austria dishonoured the alliance when it came down to war.


Shouldn't you move into Italy? It would gain stength at the expense of a few small one or two province nations...

Small yes, but allied with Spain and other countries = not easy.

and ooh look - I'm a forum veteren, how did that happen???

You passed a certain amount of msgs posted in the forums.

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Once more a very nice report, Sap!

Didn't you (Venice) gain anything in this bloody war? Hungary and Persia got one province each, but you got none?

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Doom,

No I didn't get anything. But that is ok because I wanted my allies to be rewarded for their hard efforts.

In the end my un-selfishness can only strengthen the alliance..


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at long last, a Venetian AAR...since I found out about EU, I've been intrigued by/obessed with the potential of Venice at 1492...with history's lessons in mind, one might be able to preserve her dominance...

a few suggestions/questions, respectfully submitted, that are based on my abysmal ignorance of actual gameplay, but rather on my love of (but certainly not expertise in)the field of european history...here goes...

given the fact that the republic of venice doesn't seem to have all that much territorial depth, is Austria weak enough and Venice strong enough that a campaign to annex, say, Tyrol, Styria, and Carnolia would be feasible? The acquisition of these Catholic provinces would give Venice a real foundation in Christendom, as opposed to its initial maritime possessions that are dangerously close to the Turk, and the quelching of the ascension of the Hapsburgs would certainly be in the Republic's interest.

As for the Turkish problem, your alliances proved effective...might Persia and Poland be persuaded to join? It'd seem that, geographically, the infidel may well be smothered by her enemies. In spite of Poland's current and inexplicable alignment with Turkey, wouldn't Venetian financial reserves, diplomatic prowess, and adherence to the one True Faith make a Venetian/Polish alliance attainable? That'd secure your northern flank against the Bohemians and Germans rather nicely, as well as bring another major power into the new Crusade...

To enhance Venice's manpower reserves and tax income, perhaps a diplomatic campaign in Northern Italy might be of some use? Given time and money, to me it would seem entirely possible to annex Milan and Parma...might the Papal States and Tuscany be similarly persuaded?

Again, I am ignorant as to how the game is actually played and my conception of Europe might be skewed, (I'm just an eager American, graduating from high school in a week)...but any further insight that you might provide would be just wonderful, much appreciated. Great AAR, as one would expect from its source. Thanks for making the wait all the more bearable...

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Mariani,

Some tough questions for me here :) I'll try and answer as best as I can.

enough and Venice strong enough that a campaign to annex, say, Tyrol, Styria, and Carnolia would be feasible?

It's not impossible. However it would require
either:

a) A Venetian alliance with say Hungary or one (or more)of the German states

b) Finding a time when Austria is in the middle of a war with another country and then strike

c) Finding a time when Austria is not allied with any other country, unless their relationship is considered rocky. i.e. Below 0.

d) Gathering more territory through earlier wars giving Venice access to more manpower and cash (e.g. a war against Genoa). This would then help in funding a war against Austria.

might Persia and Poland be persuaded to join?

Well, as I said Persia joined us and participated in the campaign against Turkey.
Poland was allied with Turkey but they refused to actively wage war against it's European neighbours.

Poland is not allied with Turkey anymore. She dishonoured the alliance (as did England) and therefore was thrown out.


campaign in Northern Italy might

3/4's of N. Italy is allied with Spain. Need I say more? :) I would like to take Genoa and its COT however they too are united with Spain at this moment. Perhaps if / when the alliance expires.


Great AAR, as one would expect from its source. Thanks for making the wait all the more bearable...

no worries, I'll write a new one soon.

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Great AAR. What ever happened to Sweden? How was it decided that Hungary and Persia got provinces, but you didn't? It seemed that you took the most # of provinces.(In this, I mean was it your choice to not take any.)Is there any way to reduce a treaty between two other countries, ie. Venice reducing Spain-France?

Seems to me that Turkey is still your big enemy...until you can get a coalition against Spain. :)

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iamspam,

as leader of the alliance, I was the one who 'gave out pieces of the cake' to various states. It was my intention to reward my allies for their effort, and this way it would still weaken Turkish power, even though I may not have received any provinces.

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Now that I actually have the game (in German), I have a question. I'm trying to figure out how to give provinces I have taken to my allies? Does the ally have to occupy the province? How do I specify what goes to whom? (I and the power I'm negotiating with are both heads of alliances as I declared war as Turkey on the Mamelukes.)

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To give a province to an ally the following conditions have to be met:-

1) You have to be the allianz leader.
2) The ally has to have control of that province(their flag flying on the city)

When you now configure your peace offer demand the province owned by the ally as part of the package and tehn they will get it.