Legitimising Heresy

[Verenti]

So, is there a mod about a decision to legitimise a heresy if it's moral authority rises to a high degree? If not, I think there should be. Considering how many catholic heresies in this game are would be called reform movements nowadays, I think it wouldn't be so hard for them to achieve widespread approval by those who stand less impressed by Papal Primacy.

 

[Hackworthy]

I don't believe heresies actually have a Moral Authority rating. I'm pretty sure the MA you see on the religion screen is your parent religion. I don't know for sure though because I've only ever done one heretic playthrough.

 

[Sarius1997]

They have one, you can look it up in the stats.

 

[dorukdorucu]

It should be possible to mod it somehow seeing that Nestorian's and Monophysite's get actual religious heads. But it would be hard as hell as you need to somehow make it a religion on it's own like the GoT modders did.

 

[Kaiser Ludwig]

Indeed; heretics should be beefed and more in depth... there's a lot of religion shenanigans which could be fun to make.

 

[Darkgamma]

This should work (not sure): "set_parent_religion=noreligion" (as an effect in the options)

 

[SlackBladder]

That's a really cool idea actually. Would be a great addition in some religion DLC.

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

What you could do is make a second version of every heretical religion that is a stand-alone version. Then a heretic with enough prestige/piety/gold/power can enact a decision "Legitimize the heresy!" which will set a global flag to, for example, "cathar_legit", an event can then pick up on the global flag and begin to convert people and provinces who are "heretical" Cathar to "legit" Cathar.

And this can be expanded upon, wars and heresies or heresies....

 

[Darkgamma]

What you could do is make a second version of every heretical religion that is a stand-alone version. Then a heretic with enough prestige/piety/gold/power can enact a decision "Legitimize the heresy!" which will set a global flag to, for example, "cathar_legit", an event can then pick up on the global flag and begin to convert people and provinces who are "heretical" Cathar to "legit" Cathar.

And this can be expanded upon, wars and heresies or heresies....

Or use the LoR mechanic to set a parent religion - in this case, no religion.

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

Who knows where it would have gone, but Lollards and Waldens were just part of a movement centered around gaining accurate understanding of the Bible. They didn't have any structure, hierarchy, etc, similar to Catholic or Sunni religions; which was kind of the point. Cathars had Perfects (or was it Prefects?), but that was more of like a 'monk' status as far as I understand. The Fraticelli were just a faction in the Catholic Church. I'm not sure how any of them could be fleshed out more than they already are, and they already have more political details than they did historically.

But I would like to see some more depth about them. Right now, they're just Catholic "Hard Mode" (No holy orders, crusades declared against you, everyone hates you). One thing I can think of fleshing out is relations. Lollards and Waldens should like eachother, and Bogolmists and Cathars should like eachother. Fraticelli should be disliked by the Catholic clergy, but not other Catholics in general (perhaps when the Theocracy DLC comes out they'll be able to simulate religious factions, which Lollardism might fit as one).

Not sure about Muslim heresies. I know a tiny bit about Druze, but its not coming to mind.

This should work (not sure): "set_parent_religion=noreligion" (as an effect in the options)

Could make an event using that for all the heresies.

 

[dorukdorucu]

Setting the parent religion to noreligion won't work as far as i know. It will just make the heresy a religion on it's own. You still need an icon, a religious head mechanic of some sort and the ability to grant invasion, crusade etc. cb's. Which would be pretty hard to make even for a good modder.
OR we can just wait for the religious/theocracy DLC and cross our fingers.

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

Setting the parent religion to noreligion won't work as far as i know. It will just make the heresy a religion on it's own. You still need an icon, a religious head mechanic of some sort and the ability to grant invasion, crusade etc. cb's. Which would be pretty hard to make even for a good modder.
OR we can just wait for the religious/theocracy DLC and cross our fingers.

I would look in A New World mod. There's an event which gives heads to plain religions.

 

[dorukdorucu]

I would look in A New World mod. There's an event which gives heads to plain religions.

Meh, haven't registered the game. Sadly can't look for mods. As to why i haven't registered... it's a REALLY long story.