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Hi, I can't seem to get Demesne Laws(the last law, that gives you extra demesne size) to increase.
The "Demesne Laws will automatically increase as the level of legalism in your capital rises." is always ticked red no matter what.

First I was a Tribal Unreformed Pagan, it was ticked red.
Then I was Tribal Reformed Pagan, still ticked red.
Then I became a Tribal Reformed Pagan Empire, still ticked red.
Then I became a Feudal Reformed Pagan Empire, still red.

I went and tested it by putting all my points into Legalism and nothing happened.

What do I need to do to get it to work?
 

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It's always ticked red because you cannot enact the law -- it changes automatically as you increase your Legalism tech. You do have to wait until the annual maintenance cycle for it to change, however, it won't happen immediately.
 
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Perhaps not the right place to ask and furthermore it may not be ck2+ related but I'm told that legalism doesn't have any effect on my character (newly started game playing Norse).

Could anyone explain (still learning!)?

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If we are talking about CK2+, the more advanced legalism is, the bigger demesne you can have.. if I am not mistaken. So it does have effect, it allows you to control more counties / baronies as your own land.
 

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That may be but the tool tip says "unlocks decisions not available for your character". As said I'm still learning here and I've read that Legalism (I guess it's Legalism I in this case) is a rather good tech. So far I've refrained from picking any cultural techs as I could pick it but it seems rather silly not picking a tech because I keep thinking "what if it works when I'm king (it didn't), have reformed,...

Haven't really found anything useful on the net.

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The thing is, when you're emperor, at certain levels of legalism you get special laws, vice royalties. That's what "options not available for your character" refers to.
 

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But in this case I've just become king of Denmark. Both as king and as jarl I has this message on all legalism levels.

So does this mean that I'm never going to get a bonus from picking legalism or what? When I was jarl I figured it would change when I became king. It didn't. Now I'm thinking it may change if I reform the Norse? Or when...I simply don't know...

Sorry for being such a noob here but it's a complex game and I'm reading all the stuff I can find.

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Legalism allows you to increase your Crown Authority and tax/levy laws. It also allows you to establish the Viceroys law, if you're an empire.

It also determines your level of the Demesne Law -- meaning the higher your Legalism gets, the more personal demesne you're allowed.
 

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Legalism allows you to increase your Crown Authority and tax/levy laws. It also allows you to establish the Viceroys law, if you're an empire.

It also determines your level of the Demesne Law -- meaning the higher your Legalism gets, the more personal demesne you're allowed.

Thanks for the explanation :)

Just to really spell it out for the noob: How do I become an empire? I'm now king of Denmark. Do I have to conquer all of Sweden/Norway or can I just make them tributes?

\Skodkim