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There are a number of players streaming Paradox games on Twitch.
 

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You probably should read this:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ntaining-paradox-interactive-material.671169/

It look like as long as you avoid certain soundtracks you may be ok, but the safe way is to contact the legal department or whoever take care of the legal stuff for paradox.

There are a number of players streaming Paradox games on Twitch.
Just because people do it don't have to mean it is legal and the best way is to ask the people who take care of such stuff.
 

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You probably should read this:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ntaining-paradox-interactive-material.671169/

It look like as long as you avoid certain soundtracks you may be ok, but the safe way is to contact the legal department or whoever take care of the legal stuff for paradox.

Just because people do it don't have to mean it is legal and the best way is to ask the people who take care of such stuff.

Exactly why I asked the question about thing being legal or not. Thank you for the link.
 

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I dont care what others do. I want to be sure it is legal and dont conflict with Paradox`s policies.
Sorry for not have darified my answer.
 

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The idea that it can be illegal to stream a game you honestly bought with your money along with the soundtrack that is the part of that game is just ridiculous if you ask me. It's like you bought a toy car, but it's only legal to turn left when you play with it and not right.
 

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The idea that it can be illegal to stream a game you honestly bought with your money along with the soundtrack that is the part of that game is just ridiculous if you ask me. It's like you bought a toy car, but it's only legal to turn left when you play with it and not right.
It have to do with copyright. Some companies are straight against people using their games for lets plays or similar.
 

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It have to do with copyright. Some companies are straight against people using their games for lets plays or similar.
I understand not allowing people to play certain soundtracks when streaming but banning people from posting videos of them playing it is just awful.
 

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The idea that it can be illegal to stream a game you honestly bought with your money along with the soundtrack that is the part of that game is just ridiculous if you ask me. It's like you bought a toy car, but it's only legal to turn left when you play with it and not right.

No, it would be like if you bought a car and then pulled it apart so that you could make replicas of it and sell them to people. Buying the game/car doesn’t mean you now own the IP behind it.
 

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No, it would be like if you bought a car and then pulled it apart so that you could make replicas of it and sell them to people. Buying the game/car doesn’t mean you now own the IP behind it.
No, what you said is if I reverse engineered the game code to use in my own project, and that has nothing in common with streaming.

And the "you can stream the game as long as you avoid certain music" is even more ridiculous. Music is as much a part of the game as models or textures. Imagine someone said "you can stream the game as long as you don't show the smoke graphical effect" or "you can stream the game as long as you don't show the dodge animation... what do you mean enemies dodge your attacks without your permission? Then don't stream it. Just don't tell we don't allow streaming. It's only dodging we don't allow".

Just the other day a steamer was banned on twitch for having been sent a friend request from a guy with a racist nickname. It's like you just go along the street and a guy comes to you and asks what time is it and next moment you're shot by the police because that guy was a dangerous criminal and being talked to by such dangerous criminals is obviously illegal, you should have known that and not be talked to, because that's absolutely within your control.
 
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And the "you can stream the game as long as you avoid certain music" is even more ridiculous.
Sabaton's music is copyrighted to them and it is absolutely their right to decide how and where it gets used.

The choice is that or no Sabaton music in the game.
 

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Once again, what if a car company doesn't manufacture wheels for their car themselves, but buy it from another company, and that other company goes "sure you can use our wheels for your car, but the end users won't be allowed to show their car with wheels in public because there's an engraving on them that is our intellectual property... oh, they sure can drive the car wherever they want, just without the wheels". And than it's either that or no engraved wheels for that car. Who in their sane mind would opt for engraved wheels?

Or, closer to the point, say you bought a book, but you can't put it on your bookshelf in a way that would make the cover art visible because the cover art is somehow legally not a part of the book even if physically it is?
 
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Cars and wheels are not creative works and so not valid analogies.

A book publisher and an artist come to an agreement that the artist's work can be used inside the book. Part of that agreement states that the use within the book is the only right covered in the agreement. If the book publisher, or an owner of the book, tried to publish that artwork outside the book (say in a YouTube video or Instagram post) then it would not be covered.

Clauses like that are standard in such situations.