Ledger

[prithupaul]

I really felt the need for a ledger of sorts - to find a list of all relevant stuff in my empire inclusive of all sectors - stuff like the frontier outposts, terraforming stations, location of special resources etc. Hope we will get something like this eventually.

Do point out if it is already there, and I somehow missed it.

 

[Eid3r]

Yes! Please! A Ledger for the bookish-accountants who could never get enough of the EUIV ledger. We need to know how we rank against the others

 

[Alex Borhild]

I feel like, if nothing else, a ledger might make more sense in Stellaris, where most or all of the starfaring races would have computers and databases, than in EU4. Sure, it's unrealistic for the player to always have perfect information about other empires, but it would be so much easier to plan colonial expansion if you had a list of habitable planets and their qualities rather than having to look individually at every planet marked as habitable on the galactic map.

 

[Saint_Rukus]

God yes, I miss having a ledger in this game. Besides scratching that itch of needing to know where I rank in the galaxy it would also help me keep track of all the different races in this fictional setting.

 

[prithupaul]

God yes, I miss having a ledger in this game. Besides scratching that itch of needing to know where I rank in the galaxy it would also help me keep track of all the different races in this fictional setting.

Yes! This question appeared to me as well.

 

[Taishu]

+1
I'm seriously frustrated because I can't have an overview of what is going on in my empire. Come on! It's space age, way beyond information age.

Just one example where it is unnecesasrily frustrating without ledger: colonizable planets.

Mid-late game I definetly would like to colonize/terraform the best available planet, instead of just dropping a colony on the first found.

A list of all known colonizable planets would be awsome with decent filters. Here are the use cases and questions they could provide:
- In my empire/all galaxy -> Do i want to go to war for a few good worlds, that the current owner cannot even colonize yet?!
- By type -> So I can decide whether to colonize it right now, or to wait for it until I can terraform it.
- Whether there are any pre-sentient or, pre-iron age species on it. -> I run into them always after I've colonized, because I'm mindlessly colonizing around and picking the first planet that is colonizable and without browsing the map 5 more minutes.

Planet-Sector overview
- Are my planets/sectors self-sufficient food and energy wise?
- Which planet should I specialize in which production?
- Are my pops happy on the planet? (Currently you only find out that they have developed a strong hatred to your benelovent goverment when something bad happens and the event shows up.)
- Does all my planets have a station? What is their level?
- What ships there are in a sector? (I keep building new colony ships on a sector station, because it does not show up in the outliner, and)

System overview:
- Number of planets
- Number of colonisable planets
- Resources
- Strategic resources
- Available special projects
- Available anomalies.

Ship-overview
- I desperately need to know which ship needs an upgrade and not.

Empires and species comparision
- The current "Contacts" (F3) menu is a joke. Seriously, have you tried to use it? The only function it allos me is that I can check where I've set my embassies and whom I declared rival. I cannot see in any ways who has set me a rival or has an embassy at my capital.
- Similarly the species copmkarison is only good to compare which species is the popoulus in the sector.


Come on guys, you have advertised this as a grand strategy, but it does not help me to do strategic decision.

Otherwise its an awsome game, I've spent way too much time with it already... but could be much better too!

-tai

ps.: Please fix the planet/ship/ship-class/system text variables in events and such. I want to know where they happened, and not to check all my ships. Also the "find" menu should list planets and sectors and ships/fleets/armies not just solar systems (even if it finds the planet in it).

 

[bobthedog]

Other things that I find myself constantly having to check manually and would be excellent in a ledger:

Colonizable planets: particularly, what size they are and what natural resources they have. I'm tired of going "oooh, Gaia World!" then after clicking at least twice (to open system view, then to open planet view, then probably a third time to open the surface tab) find out it's an 8-9 size.

Pops and ethos: "Do I have any good ethos on my favorite Arctic planet species somewhere in the 13 planets I gave them? I want to make a colony ship" [Edit: actually, I have a better idea for colonization. I'll go make a thread about it.]

Sortable empire list: "Are there any empires with fleets larger than mine? What about tech, is anyone ahead?"

Planet list: "I want to send my science ship to the planet that produces the most Physics." (Granted, these will usually be your core planets, but sometimes you already have science ships in the tech-producing core worlds). Also, sortable "capital level" column, so I can see if my sectors are upgrading their capitals.

Strategic resources: How many are there in the empire (and where so that I can go and build a mine)? What can I build with them (and did I already? and where)? Are any sectors consuming strategic resources?

 

[X3KJ]

I feel like, if nothing else, a ledger might make more sense in Stellaris, where most or all of the starfaring races would have computers and databases, than in EU4. Sure, it's unrealistic for the player to always have perfect information about other empires, but it would be so much easier to plan colonial expansion if you had a list of habitable planets and their qualities rather than having to look individually at every planet marked as habitable on the galactic map.

The information about the other empires could simply be delayed by 20 years for example. Just like some current secret information are declassified after a while.
I remember a development graph over time in the total war series (or some 4X game) for stuff like economy, armies etc. That would be really nice to analyse what happened in the past while with the dealy would still leave the present a bit of a mysterie.

Obvious stuff like owned planets obiously should be immediately apparent. But stuff like fleetstrength, mineral income, etc should be delayed.

 

[Alex Borhild]

The information about the other empires could simply be delayed by 20 years for example. Just like some current secret information are declassified after a while.
I remember a development graph over time in the total war series (or some 4X game) for stuff like economy, armies etc. That would be really nice to analyse what happened in the past while with the dealy would still leave the present a bit of a mysterie.

Obvious stuff like owned planets obiously should be immediately apparent. But stuff like fleetstrength, mineral income, etc should be delayed.

Information about other empires being slightly out of date (20 years seems like a good number) is an excellent idea. Availability of such information also seems like it could be changed by ethos choice and government type. If some kind of espionage system is added, it would be an interesting thing to include - how much energy, materials, and/or influence are you willing to spend to acquire current information about the military of the rival you share a heavily fortified border with? What might the consequences be if your agent is discovered, or if the enemy admiral you've recruited as a spy gives you false information?

 

[Taishu]

Information about other empires being slightly out of date (20 years seems like a good number) is an excellent idea. Availability of such information also seems like it could be changed by ethos choice and government type. If some kind of espionage system is added, it would be an interesting thing to include - how much energy, materials, and/or influence are you willing to spend to acquire current information about the military of the rival you share a heavily fortified border with? What might the consequences be if your agent is discovered, or if the enemy admiral you've recruited as a spy gives you false information?

Actually Paradox has plenty of experience regarding how to display this information, and I would be perfectly fine with that (See any Hearts of Iron, EU, Victoria). My problem is that it takes extensive amount of manual work to compare two things roughly. And that is frustrating.

 

[Conqueristo]

One thing sorely needed with the ledger is a historical annal, similar to what you have with CK II. I would like to look over my species history and see when we colonized Rimmerworld, when we discovered such and such species, when we last went to war with those Marmedons...

 

[prithupaul]

One thing sorely needed with the ledger is a historical annal, similar to what you have with CK II. I would like to look over my species history and see when we colonized Rimmerworld, when we discovered such and such species, when we last went to war with those Marmedons...

Yes. Great idea.

 

[Paul Aldo]

The one i really want is sectors planet shown in right tab, instead of just the sectors. It's getting really tedious to click the solar system, click the planet, then click the spacedock tab, click the ship, then go back to galaxy map, then click another system, and so on. It is much easier if the sectors planet shown. I could utilize the ctrl shortcut but I usually have like 5-6 fleets and science ships, and tens of planets, so i can only create a shortcut for a few planets.

Or did that already available and I missed that?