League of Non-Aligned Powers not founding?

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Rezca

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So I was playing through an Ironman game looking to pick up a few achievements I hadn't yet gotten, and not long after I was readying to settle the last Holy World I needed for Deus Vult (finally, after all this time...) the nearby Militarist/Xenophobe FE awoke. I shuffled my military fleets around and made sure some bases had defenses, and after I claimed the last planet and started recovering the few losses I took during the war, the Xenophile FE awoke.

Fast forward and the War in Heaven triggers. However, not long after the Spiritualist FE decides to declare war on me (No, I didn't finish them off. I should have but I didn't think I'd be able to get their last planets before the war auto-ended). During this war as I'm racing to grab their last colonies to end the war, the dialogue for Pick a Side / Remain Neutral comes up. I say I'll crush them both.

I look at the only independant nation has sided with (surprise, surprise) the Xenophile. The only other nations left alive right now are an Inward Perfection race of dragons that asked to become a Protectorate a few centuries ago, and a race of Purifier mushrooms.


After I wiped the Spiritualist FE off the map, I get the dialogue for forming the League. I say I'll lead it........ And nothing happens. Okay, I'm pretty sure that's because there's no neutral empires to form an alliance with, so I release a vassal from a backwards colony. Still nothing. Taking a breath I finally release my dragon protectorate... Still nothing.


I'm in a very good position to take that Last, Best Hope achievement. However, I'm not currently at war with either of the two Awakened Empires, and I'm very nervous over what might happen next, and what should I do.


So.... Any advice? Should I just declare war on them both and take them out? Would that still net the achievement? Or has the Spiritualist FE being at war with me + me not dropping a Vassal out after remaining Neutral but before the League pop-up came up and thus denied me the shot at getting the achievement?
 

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Takes 2 years
Well I'm at a loss here. In 2401-07-01 I got the notification that the Xenophile FE had awoken. In 2406-07-12 the WiH officially broke out, and the two AE's declared on each other. Two days later, the popup for founding the Non-Aligned Powers comes up and I accept the position.

It's at this point that the only two standard empires left were a vassal I had released earlier and granted independance (They sided with the Xenophile AE) and the Inward Perfection dragons that were my protectorate. When the popup arrived, I was still at war with the Spiritualist FE that had declared on me around the time the two other FE's were awakening (the dirty little....)

It's now 2411-8-20 and I've yet to receive any follow-up about this. I'm still independent, the vassal I made and released after I conquered and wiped out the Spiritualist FE is still independent, and neither of the Awakened Empires are at war with me.


So since the League doesn't exist, I can't get the achievement right? I'll just have to start a new game and hope I'm not at war when the event breaks out?
At war + have some neutral empire on the map *after* the WiH breaks out but **before** the League notification pops up?
 

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Yes you have to be the leader of the league. I finally got the achievement with my 2.2 playthrough. So it was actually working, don't know about 2.2.1 :)

I got the popup asking me if I wanted to be the leader of it. I said 'Yes'. Unfortunately nothing happened afterwards.
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My only guesses is that it was because either (A) I was at war with that dirty FE who declared on me earlier, (B) there weren't any other Independent empires (other than the F.Purifiers) present at the time, or (C) Both.
 

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I am currently in the most challenging war in heaven I have ever been in (grand admiral scaling, huge galaxy, I am the league leader with 6 others). I had about 400k fleet around 2400 and thought I am ready... well the AE each have 600k and seem to replace them as fast as I can destroy them... also my admirals take forever now to reach a higher level so I am not really getting stronger. It is also the first time everybody has build gateways, so it is really difficult to keep track of all the fleet movements... and all the smaller empires have 20-80k fleets, so the are not completely useless.

I should not have taken the L-Cluster from the Consonance before. Now I can't do any offensive without a AE fleet attacking the cluster or any L-gate System. I will have to reduce my research and fill my ecumenopoli with forges to be able replace my fleets fast enough I guess.

Definitely having the most challenging game in a long while :D
 

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I am currently in the most challenging war in heaven I have ever been in (grand admiral scaling, huge galaxy, I am the league leader with 6 others). I had about 400k fleet around 2400 and thought I am ready... well the AE each have 600k and seem to replace them as fast as I can destroy them... also my admirals take forever now to reach a higher level so I am not really getting stronger. It is also the first time everybody has build gateways, so it is really difficult to keep track of all the fleet movements... and all the smaller empires have 20-80k fleets, so the are not completely useless.

I should not have taken the L-Cluster from the Consonance before. Now I can't do any offensive without a AE fleet attacking the cluster or any L-gate System. I will have to reduce my research and fill my ecumenopoli with forges to be able replace my fleets fast enough I guess.

Definitely having the most challenging game in a long while :D

I had the hub there fortified to heck and back after I saw the Machine FE from earlier in the game try and use it (Their fleets never arrived, but it made me paranoid afterwards). I always had some defenses there and a standby fleet in it or near it, as well as making shipyard hubs in systems containing L-Gates, but after that....


Anyway, I'm keeping this save 'just in case' but I figure that the general answer to the problem is "Sorry but you got screwed out of the Achievement" xD
Next time - if there is a next time - I'll be sure to release some independent vassal BEFORE the League popup rolls around, so there's another empire to form the League with hah