Leaders

[Kaiser Franz]

Georgian leaders:
Abkhazi:

Kvinitadze:

Cholokashvili:

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Norway (NOR):

Name;ID;Country;Rank 3 Year;Rank 2 Year;Rank 1 Year;Rank 0 Year;Ideal Rank;Max Skill;Traits;Skill;Experience;Loyalty;Type;Picture;Start Year;End Year;x
Krohn;39001;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;512;1;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Holtfodt;39002;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;6;8;3;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Aavatsmark;39003;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;0;1;0;5;0;aavatsmark_nor;1912;1935;x
Strugstad;39004;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Olssøn;39005;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;512;1;0;5;0;olsson_nor;1912;1935;x
Hansen;39006;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;0;1;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Angell;39007;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;4;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Sinding-Larsen;39008;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;0;1;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Bauck;39009;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;4;0;1;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Vogt;39010;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;8;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
von Munthe af Morgenstierne;39011;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Keilhau;39012;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
Ræder;39013;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;0;raeder_johan_nor;1912;1935;x
Griffin-Dawes;39014;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;1;unknown;1912;1935;x
Berglund;39015;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;1;unknown;1912;1935;x
Sparre;39016;U10;1912;1914;1935;1935;2;5;0;2;0;5;1;unknown;1912;1935;x
Børresen;39017;U10;1912;1935;1935;1935;3;5;0;2;0;5;0;unknown;1912;1935;x
von der Lippe;39018;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;131072;0;0;5;2;unknown;1914;1935;x
Sem-Jacobsen;39019;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;sem-jacobsen_nor;1914;1935;x
Grüner;39020;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;gruner_nor;1914;1935;x
Crawfurd-Jensen;39021;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;unknown;1914;1935;x
Vetlesen;39022;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;unknown;1914;1935;x
Bull;39023;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;unknown;1914;1935;x
Haganaes;39024;U10;1914;1935;1935;1935;3;3;0;0;0;5;2;unknown;1914;1935;x

I found some pictures that the VIP team had of Norwegian admirals and generals:
General Hakon Hansen (1846-1916):

General Christian Holtfodt (1863-1930)

General Wilhelm af Morgenstierne (1855-1938)

Admiral Jacob Børresen (1857-1943)

you'll have to convert them into the right HoI2 pictures etc etc

Heres a new Brazilian general or i have forgotten him lol, sorry if you already have him...
Candido Mariano da Silva Rondon:

 

[Allenby]

Thank you for those Norwegians. I shall give them a suitable background to replace the lime green.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Here are some Danish Admirals...
Admiral Anton Evers:

Admiral Koefed-Hansen:

Admiral Juel-Brockdorff:

Admiral Wenck:

 

[Kaiser Franz]

I have an idea...seing as many of the Chinese generals unfortunatly don't have pictures, i found a picture of President Li Yuanhong watching a march past of troops with all of his Army Generals, perhaps we could use of all of these, as they are not very detailed as a generic Chinese leader pic, there are many so we would have at least 14 to 16 generic leader pictures, which is a lot, these would even fill out a few leader files without over lapping and having several leaders with the same pictures. Plus, it would be hard to tell who they actualy are anyway, we could even use the President Yuanhong as a generic leader as well, as its hard to tell who's who, even if we did have an expert on the Chinese general staff in 1916.!!

Heres the pic:

heres a line of of some of them, they would be good, as no one can tell who they are anyway...

so any ideas?

 

[Allenby]

so any ideas?

I'm against the idea - A random Chinaman being depicted as clean shaven when he actually had an impressive moustache strikes me as rather strange.

Does anyone else have an opinion?

 

[Shadow Knight]

Better than the empty picture I suppose.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

I think it would be good, i don't like little black boxes leading my armies into battle, so i would think it would fill them up untilll we find, if any, pictures of the missings warlords and generals etc. Plus they are Chinese and not from another country, so they would be well suited for a generic Chinese general pic, plus it could be any of the generals included in the game, but then again, they might not be at all. I think it would be best, just to have a picture for a few, plus it isn't like getting a picture of Chiang Kai Shek and using him as a generic leader picture...as we all know what he looks like, no one, unless they are an expert would know who these chaps are. That my idea...better to have a picture of someone who may or may nopt be the general then have no one at all.

 

[ptan54]

If you're going to do this for China, the same logic applies to the other pics that we have black boxes for. Random whites selected for European commanders without pictures? Bit silly. Perhaps now you can see why I prefer the black box.

 

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What about a small portrait of Churchill with the word "Hero" emblazened across the middle?

 

[|AXiN|]

I'd much prefer the black outline, to be honest. Getting some random's picture, I think, does a disservice to those soldiers.

 

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Vazov, skill 5! Why?

If I saw correctly, Bulgarian Vladimir Vazov is the only leader with skill 5. What did that man do to deserve such a high skill, better than any other general?

 

[unmerged(12709)]

I am just psyched that General Elliot is included =) If anyone remembers me from about two years ago, that is, lol.

 

[Allenby]

If I saw correctly, Bulgarian Vladimir Vazov is the only leader with skill 5. What did that man do to deserve such a high skill, better than any other general?

I don't know...I was not responsible for writing the Bulgarian list. I assume he was a very skilled Bulgarian leader, and have reduced him to skill 4.

I am just psyched that General Elliot is included =) If anyone remembers me from about two years ago, that is, lol.

Your engrossment in this rather arcane matter was unforgettable.

 

[unmerged(12709)]

haha, I'm so sorry... but I recommend his biography to ANYONE who is REMOTELY interested in war. It is an amazing, and truly involving history of a great warrior and leader, but awful subordinate.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Some Turkish leaders pictures...
Kamil Pasha (unsure, was the Kamil Pasha in the list the prince Hussein Kamil Pasha?)

Hakki Pasha:

Hilmi Pasha (Last Khedive of Egypt right man?):

Ghalib Bey:

Niazi Bey:

You can add this guy as an admiral and land leader, as he commanded land defences at the Dardenelles 1914-15
Guido von Usedom:

 

[Kaiser Franz]

More leaders..this time they are Lithuanians....

Silvestras ŽUKAUSKAS (General):

Jonas GALVYDIS-BYKAUSKAS (Division General):

Mykolas VELYKIS (Division General):

Pulkininkas Ignas MUSTEIKIS (Division General):

Augustinas VOLDEMARAS (minister of defence and possible General):

once again, hope these help a little..

 

[Rey]

Nice Kaiser Franz. You really are THE leader researcher

 

[Kaiser Franz]

thanks, but i really owe it to the forums i search and obviously that great help the internet....plus the few books i have..

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Latvian leaders...more of them...

ADIENIS (Low Rank, possible Maj. Gen.)

Count KEIZERLINGS (Admiral of Latvian navy)

Karlis ULMANIS (possible land general and minister of war)

BANGERSKIS (unsure if i've done him before..general)

DANKERS (Land General)

some i think are either already in game, others i have already posted, so sorry for any non-new ones, but none the less enjoy these Baltic lads..