Leaders with multiple traits = bad idea

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Leaders with multiple traits = OK

There were some discussions a while back about assigning multiple traits to leaders since the traits are assigned with bit flags. I remember basic postulations that it would work. I do not know if it was ever looked at in detail, but looking at the save games I could not help but notice that traits are saved textually. Therefore if a leader were assigned more than one trait, it would not survive a game save/load.

I am sure we have all witnessed the consternation surrounding the research modifiers not being reloaded. I would suggest that no one attempt to grant multiple traits to any leaders as I would fear it would not be received especially well once the longevity (or lack thereof) of the change was discovered.

EDIT: Changed Title. We'll see if it actually works.

 

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Actually, one of the French generals has four traits listed... Verdillac I think it was. I just posted something in the bug forum about it, since I thought it was an error...

I've never checked to see if it's still there in the save games though... Which it does seem to be... I looked.

 

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Wow. Stigger. You are right. It actually parses through them. And with that, my biggest concern regarding multiple traits is lifted. The game was actually made to be able to support multiples. Nice!

 

[birch23]

I think the was mentioned too in the Frodon thread,which was why I suggested that Vulture should be very careful about how many generals had double traits.I think the final solution came down to less than 10 which probably will be included in 1.03.But of course I can't say if Paradox will apply it....

 

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Dunno, I tried multiple traits once and got savegame corruption. Maybe it was wrong multiple traits from my part, but I'd steer clear of these until official word from the PROGRAMMER(s).

 

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If nothing else Rommel should have Panzer and either Trickster and/or Logistics...

 

[birch23]

I've done a bit of thinking(yes I know it sounds hard to believe) but there might be some double which will not act together.

I have come to the conclusion that Old Guard,Logistics,Winter and Engineer can work with all.

Offensive can probably only go with the 4 above + Fortrees Buster and Panzer

Defensive (the 4 above) and no other

Trickster (4 above) + Commando,Panzer (i have an idea that if this is attached with either Fortress or Offensive then it overrules each other and corrupt the save file.

Now if someone could run a quick test on this brainstorm,I think we might have cracked the double trait question.(I'm a little short of time myself due to running a business...

 

[Dorlarin]

Originally posted by birch23
I've done a bit of thinking(yes I know it sounds hard to believe)

How does this thi..th..thi uhm thing work?
What do I need to research to get that?

 

[birch23]

Logistics

 

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Eisenhower - Logistics Whiz, Offensive Doctrine
Montgomery - Logistics Whiz, Defensive Expert
Patton - Panzer Leader, Offensive Doctrine
Nimitz - Tactician, Spotter
Le May - Tactician, Carpet Bomber
Rommel - Trickster, Panzer Leader
Manstein - Trickster, Defensive Expert
Guderian - Panzer Leader, Offensive Doctrine
Zhukov - Winter Warrior, Offensive Doctrine
Chuikov - Defensive Expert, Logistics Whiz

 

[Vulture]

1) Those multiple traits DO survive a reload here

2) They all work perfectly