Leaders and Ministers

unmerged(16020) · Dec 11, 2003

PackMan said:
Lunar: If you could... check a few posts back. There are a few countries that are already done coding, (Denmark, Finland, Germany just to name a few).
It's not THAT fun coding minister files and then find out someone else already made them

Perhaps it would be a good idea if you and Marty could make a checkup on the files marty have vs the ones posted as NOT ready.

Sorry, the page carried over and I didn't go back one when I saw the thread. Thanks for them, I added:

Denmark
Finland
France

Are there any others? Germany was already on the list.

unmerged(15893) · Dec 11, 2003

Dibo said:
I can't remember
Marty, did I?

I've checked all my DB's, all my e-mails, but I don't have any files/e-mails from you

If you would like, please send me the files again. Thanks!

Dibo · Dec 11, 2003

MartyWolf said:
I've checked all my DB's, all my e-mails, but I don't have any files/e-mails from you

If you would like, please send me the files again. Thanks!

Will do

Please PM me your e-mail

Dibo · Dec 11, 2003

Dibo said:
Will do Please PM me your e-mail

E-mail sent to Lunar and MartyWolf

unmerged(21989) · Dec 11, 2003

Hey i know this is kinda like offtopic but the new styles complicated it's harder to post faster

PackMan · Dec 11, 2003

China coded

Ok - here's a real biggy!
China in coded format :wacko:

We are missing tons of pics and to make it more "complete" I'm gonna post a list of the most needed ministers and turn my back away counting to 10. When I look again I want to see some links pointing at pics of Chinese ministers

j/k - But some help on this one would be good. Dokrroka - you think you can help me out on this one?
Here goes:

CHC;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
19001;Head of State;Hu Jintao;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
19002;Head of Government;Wen Jiabao;NA;LWR;NA;NA;wen_jiabao_chc;x
19003;Foreign Minister;Li Zhaoxing;NA;LWR;Ideological Crusader;High;li_zhaoxing_chc;x
19004;Minister of Armament;Li Jinai;NA;LWR;Military Entrepreneur;Medium;unknown;x
19005;Minister of Security;Ali Younesi;NA;LWR;Efficient Sociopath;High;unknown;x
19006;Head of Military Intelligence;Kong Quan;NA;LE;Technical Specialist;High;kong_quan_chc;x
19007;Chief of Staff;Fu Quanyou;NA;LE;School of Fire Support;High;fu_quanyou_chc;x
19008;Chief of Army;Qiao Qingchen;NA;LWR;Elastic Defense Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
19009;Chief of Navy;Shi Yunsheng;NA;LE;Power Projection Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19010;Chief of Air Force;Qiao Qingchen;NA;LWR;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;unknown;x
;Shadow Democratic Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
19011;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
19012;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;NA;NA;unknown;x
19013;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Ideological Crusader;High;unknown;x
19014;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Battle Fleet Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
19015;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;unknown;x
19016;Head of Military Intelligence;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Naval Intelligence Specialist;Low;unknown;x
19017;Chief of Staff;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;School of Defense;High;unknown;x
19018;Chief of Army;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19019;Chief of Navy;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
19020;Chief of Air Force;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
19021;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;NS FA PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
19022;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
19023;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;PA;General Staffer;Very High;unknown;x
19024;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Air-to-Ground Proponent;High;unknown;x
19025;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Compassionate Gentleman;Very High;unknown;x
19026;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Dismal Enigma;High;unknown;x
19027;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;PA;School of Mass Combat;Medium;unknown;x
19028;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
19029;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19030;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
19031;Foreign Minister;Zheng Xianglin ;NA;LWR;General Staffer;Medium;unknown;x
19032;Foreign Minister;Zhao Jun;NA;LWR;Biased Intellectual;High;unknown;x
19033;Foreign Minister;He Yafei;NA;LE;Ideological Crusader;High;unknown;x
19034;Foreign Minister;Ma Keqing;NA;LWR;The Cloak-n-Dagger Schemer;Medium;unknown;x
19035;Foreign Minister;Li Baodong;NA;LE;Apologetic Clerk;Medium;unknown;x
19036;Minister of Armament;Wu Yapeng;NA;LE;Theoretical Scientist;Medium;unknown;x
19037;Minister of Armament;Hu Shan;NA;LWR;Air-to-Ground Proponent;High;unknown;x
19038;Minister of Armament;Ma Chongren;NA;LWR;Corrupt Kleptocrat;Medium;unknown;x
19039;Minister of Armament;Li Chao;NA;LWR;Theoretical Scientist;Medium;unknown;x
19040;Minister of Armament;Niu Xiaoping;NA;LWR;Tank Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
19041;Minister of Security;Abdo-Nabi Namazi;NA;ST;Prince of Terror;Very High;unknown;x
19042;Minister of Security;Liu Yuhe;NA;LE;Man of the People;High;unknown;x
19043;Minister of Security;Wu Ken;NA;LWR;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;unknown;x
19044;Head of Military Intelligence;Zhang Qiyue;NA;LE;Industrial Specialist;High;unknown;x
19045;Head of Military Intelligence;Liu Jianchao;NA;LWR;Logistics Specialist;Very High;unknown;x
19046;Head of Military Intelligence;Gong Jianzhong;NA;LE;Political Specialist;Low;unknown;x
19047;Head of Military Intelligence;Cui Tiankai;NA;LWR;Dismal Enigma;Medium;unknown;x
19048;Head of Military Intelligence;Chen Naiqing;NA;LE;Political Specialist;Low;unknown;x
19049;Head of Military Intelligence;Yang Yanyi;NA;LWR;Technical Specialist;Very High;unknown;x
19050;Chief of Staff;Xu Caihou;NA;LE;School of Psychology;High;xu_caihou_chc;x
19051;Chief of Staff;Chi Haotian;NA;LE;School of Mass Combat;Very Low;unknown;x
19052;Chief of Staff;Liao Xilong;NA;LE;School of Maneuver;Medium;unknown;x
19053;Chief of Staff;Liang Guanglie;NA;ST;School of Defense;High;unknown;x
19054;Chief of Army;Qiao Qingchen;NA;LE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19055;Chief of Army;Yang Guoliang;NA;LWR;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
19056;Chief of Army;Zhu Qui;NA;LWR;Static Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19057;Chief of Navy;Shi Yunsheng;NA;LE;Power Projection Doctrine;High;unknown;x
19058;Chief of Navy;Yang Huaiqing;NA;LWR;Open Seas Doctrine;Very High;unknown;x

List of most needed ministers:
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Minister of Armament: Li Jinai
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Minister of Security: Ali Younesi
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Cheif of Army: Qiao Qingchen
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Cheif of Navy: Shi Yunsheng
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Cheif of Airforce: Qiao Qingchen
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Maby some pics on the replacement guys would be cool as well.
As usual, *.csv file and pics sent to Marty on E-mail.

Note: Correction was made in this post 2003-12-12 due to an error spotted by Lunar.

unmerged(15893) · Dec 11, 2003

Dibo said:
E-mail sent to Lunar and MartyWolf

Good, thank you!

PackMan · Dec 11, 2003

Australias ministers

Australias ministers in HOI format.

AST;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
4001;Head of State;John Howard;NA;RS LC CE;NA;NA;unknown;x
4002;Head of Government;John Howard;NA;RS;NA;NA;john_howard_ast;x
4003;Foreign Minister;Alexander Downer;NA;RS;Ideological Crusader;Very High;alexander_downer_ast;x
4004;Minister of Armament;Robert M. Hill;NA;RS;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;robert_hill_ast;x
4005;Minister of Security;Christopher Ellison;NA;RS;Man of the People;Medium;christopher_ellison_ast;x
4006;Head of Military Intelligence;Christopher Ellison;NA;RS;Political Specialist;High;christopher_ellison_ast;x
4007;Chief of Staff;Robert M. Hill;NA;CE;School of Maneuver;Medium;robert_hill_ast;x
4008;Chief of Army;Peter Leahy;NA;RS;Elastic Defense Doctrine;Medium;peter_leahy_ast;x
4009;Chief of Navy;Chris Ritchie;NA;RS;Base Control Doctrine;High;chris_ritchie_ast;x
4010;Chief of Air Force;Allan Grant Houston;NA;RS;Naval Aviation Doctrine;High;unknown;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
4011;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;NS FA PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
4012;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
4013;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Ideological Crusader;High;unknown;x
4014;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Air-to-Ground Proponent;Low;unknown;x
4015;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;NS;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;unknown;x
4016;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Industrial Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
4017;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;FA;School of Maneuver;High;unknown;x
4018;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
4019;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Base Control Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
4020;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;NS;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
4021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
4022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
4023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Iron-fisted Brute;High;unknown;x
4024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Air-to-Ground Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
4025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Compassionate Gentleman;Low;unknown;x
4026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
4027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;School of Maneuver;Medium;unknown;x
4028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
4029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;unknown;x
4030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Very High;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x

*.csv file and pics sent to Marty.

unmerged(16020) · Dec 12, 2003

Li Zhaoxing should be the foreign minister (currently a replacement), I believe I was wrong in my original list and used the chief of some other division like the chief of embassies. Thanks yet again Packy.

Anyway:
Li Zhaoxing
Xu Caihou

unmerged(10371) · Dec 12, 2003

cool packman, good work

unmerged(18045) · Dec 12, 2003

how do you get info on skill and traits for generals
when most of countries havint been in war since 1945?
Even some major powers dont have war experiance
All of European countries(except Ex-Yu),China(not sure about this one)...

Even USA for example fought only limited wars agains 100 times weaker opponents and the most of this experiance was againt Iraq,so it fought a war in desert on flat terrain against Iraqy armies ( poor armament at least compared to Coalition,with lousy moral of regular units(which anyway didnt see any action in the war as i know) + no defenses were prepared,not a single minefield layed and so on).

Russia also,althought still fighitng Chechens and with recent Avganistan experiance,which are both very limited in military terms.

Even ex-Yu is questionable

Slovenia 1991..some gerrila fighting for a week or two of slovenian militia agains peackiping JNA (or atleast it thought so).maybe 50 casulties on both sides max.Max usage of firepower - AK-47

Macedonia 2000 fightings with albanian gerrila in western macedonia for a month or so little heavier than slovenia but also very small.

Croatia and bosnian Croats : 1991 - 1992 not sure (defense of vukovar) 1995 clearing south west of croatia(3 weeks of fighting) from serbian rebels.Bosnian Croats fought agains serbs in Bosnia and muslims in 1993.

Serbia,Montenegro and bosnian Serbs - 1991 serbian rebels ocuppy south west croatia(not much action except some casual artilery fire exchanges,all till 1995),1991-1992 eastern parts of Croatia ccupied by regular JNA and paramilitary units (volunteers mostly)except for city of vukovar wich needed two months (not sure about this) to capture(city was destroyed by our artillery fire and few street combats).In Bosnia there was always some fighting .VRS(army ov serb republic in bosnia)with help from JNA and paramilitary units against muslims and croats,and few times NATO aviation.2/3 of bosina were in the hands of bosnian Serbs.Most actions in Croatia were limited excpet vukovar and 1995 because of more than 20 cease fire events and for politcal reasons.In Bosnia thingswere much diffrent.
1998-1999 VJ(former JNA) fights OVK(albanian gerrilla on kosovo about 40.000 man aproximatelly and in some small cases much better armed than VJ),few events of tries of combined albanian,OVK and NATO special units to cross Albanina-Yugoslav border ,and finally NATO aviation.
2000 fighitng Albanian rebels, took parts of south serbia than a limited police and spelian units acion (few days only) to take back rebel held territroy.

All that is super but most of generals are now in Hag for war crimes.
So only Israel has real war experinace on total war and only there wouldnt be problems on apointing skills and traits.And most todays armies are civil controled..hmmm lets say all Ministers of Army are Guns and buter.

I think you Hoi isnt htat much modable to make *example* a conflictin which only air units are alowed without declaring a war.As you know USA dindt declare war since 1941 i think.
I really dont know how are you gonna make it all work,but if you can explain me how coause i would like to help but have some big doubts(as you see)about the mod.

unmerged(15893) · Dec 12, 2003

Nidza said:
how do you get info on skill and traits for generals
when most of countries havint been in war since 1945?

We either read into thier purported speciality or just give random traits.

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Lunar said:
Li Zhaoxing should be the foreign minister (currently a replacement), I believe I was wrong in my original list and used the chief of some other division like the chief of embassies. Thanks yet again Packy.

Anyway:
Li Zhaoxing
Xu Caihou

Thanks for the correction Lunar!
I made the changes and sent the files to Marty (including the new pics in HOI format as well).

unmerged(18045) · Dec 13, 2003

MartyWolf said:
We either read into thier purported speciality or just give random traits.

Ok than..so that wouldnt happen to my country (oh i am such a patriot)
ill give ya info for Serbia if you need any.Who do I send info to?e mail please.

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Iran coded

The ministers of Iran in HOI format:

PER;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
39001;Head of State;Ayatollah Ali Hoseini-Khamenei;NA;PA FA NS;NA;NA;unknown;x
39002;Head of Government;Mohammad Khatami-Ardakan;NA;NS;NA;NA;mohammad_khatami-ardakan_per;x
39003;Foreign Minister;Kamal Kharrazi;NA;NS;Ideological Crusader;Very High;kamal_kharrazi_per;x
39004;Minister of Armament;Eshaq Jahangiri;NA;NS;Corrupt Kleptocrat;Medium;eshaq_jahangiri_per;x
39005;Minister of Security;Ali Younesi;NA;NS;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;ali_younesi_per;x
39006;Head of Military Intelligence;Ali Younesi;NA;NS;Dismal Enigma;Medium;ali_younesi_per;x
39007;Chief of Staff;Ali Shamkhani;NA;NS;School of Maneuver;High;ali_shamkhani_per;x
39008;Chief of Army;Hassan Firouzabadi;NA;NS;Elastic Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
39009;Chief of Navy;Abbas Mohtaj;NA;NS;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
39010;Chief of Air Force;Reza Pardis;NA;NS;Air Superiority Doctrine;High;unknown;x
;Shadow Democratic Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
39011;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
39012;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;NA;NA;unknown;x
39013;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;Biased Intellectual;High;unknown;x
39014;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;Infantry Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
39015;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Crime Fighter;Medium;unknown;x
39016;Head of Military Intelligence;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Industrial Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
39017;Chief of Staff;Blue Shadow;NA;LS;School of Defense;Low;unknown;x
39018;Chief of Army;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
39019;Chief of Navy;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Base Control Doctrine;High;unknown;x
39020;Chief of Air Force;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Air Superiority Doctrine;High;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
39021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
39022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
39023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;General Staffer;Very High;unknown;x
39024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Air-to-Ground Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
39025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;unknown;x
39026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Political Specialist;Low;unknown;x
39027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;School of Maneuver;High;unknown;x
39028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
39029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Power Projection Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
39030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
39031;Minister of Security;Abdo-Nabi Namazi;NA;NS;Prince of Terror;Very High;unknown;x

*.csv file and pics were sent to Marty via e-mail.

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Russian ministers coded

Russian ministers coded into HOI format:

RUS;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
72001;Head of State;Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
72002;Head of Government;Mikhail Mikhaylovich Kasyanov;NA;CE;NA;NA;mikhail_mikhaylovich_kasyanov_rus;x
72003;Foreign Minister;Igor Sergeyevich Ivanov;NA;CE;Great Compromiser;High;igor_sergeyevich_ivanov_rus;x
72004;Minister of Armament;Sergey Borisovich Ivanov;NA;CE;Resource Industrialist;High;sergey_borisovich_ivanov_rus;x
72005;Minister of Security;Nikolay Platonovich Patrushev;NA;LC;Crooked Plutocrat;Medium;nikolay_platonovich_patrushev_rus;x
72006;Head of Military Intelligence;Sergey Nikolayevich Lebedev;NA;CE;Dismal Enigma;Very High;sergey_nikolayevich_lebedev_rus;x
72007;Chief of Staff;Anatoly Vasilyevich Kvashnin;NA;RS;School of Fire Support;Medium;unknown;x
72008;Chief of Army;Nikolai Viktorovich Kormiltsev;NA;CE;Static Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
72009;Chief of Navy;Vladimir Ivanovich Kuroyedov;NA;CE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;unknown;x
72010;Chief of Air Force;Vladimir Sergeyevich Mikhailov;NA;CE;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Medium;vladimir_sergeyevich_mikhailov_rus;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
72011;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;NS FA PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
72012;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;FA;NA;NA;unknown;x
72013;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Apologetic Clerk;Very High;unknown;x
72014;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Air Superiority Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
72015;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Crooked Plutocrat;Medium;unknown;x
72016;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Political Specialist;High;unknown;x
72017;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;PA;School of Mass Combat;Medium;unknown;x
72018;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Low;unknown;x
72019;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Power Projection Doctrine;High;unknown;x
72020;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
72021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
72022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;ST;NA;NA;unknown;x
72023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Ideological Crusader;High;unknown;x
72024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Air-to-Ground Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
72025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Prince of Terror;Medium;unknown;x
72026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Industrial Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
72027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;School of Mass Combat;Low;unknown;x
72028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;unknown;x
72029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
72030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x

*.csv file and pics sent to Marty via e-mail

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Nidza said:
Ok than..so that wouldnt happen to my country (oh i am such a patriot)
ill give ya info for Serbia if you need any.Who do I send info to?e mail please.

Thanks for your interest in this mod. To answer your question: -MartyWolf is the guy compiling it all together - meaning all material goes to him or Lunar.

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Saudi Arabias ministers coded

Saudi Arabias ministers coded:

SAU;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
73001;Head of State;Fahd al-Saud;NA;PA FA NS;NA;NA;unknown;x
73002;Head of Government;Fahd al-Saud;NA;PA;NA;NA;fahd_al-saud_sau;x
73003;Foreign Minister;Saud al-Faysal Saud;NA;PA;Ideological Crusader;Medium;saud_al-faysal_saud_sau;x
73004;Minister of Armament;Sultan al-Saud;NA;PA;Infantry Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
73005;Minister of Security;Abdallah Shaykh;NA;PA;Prince of Terror;High;unknown;x
73006;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Dismal Enigma;High;unknown;x
73007;Chief of Staff;Salih ibn Ali al-Muhaya;NA;FA;School of Defense;Medium;unknown;x
73008;Chief of Army;Husein al-Qubeel;NA;PA;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Very High;unknown;x
73009;Chief of Navy;Fahd ibn Abdallah;NA;PA;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
73010;Chief of Air Force;Muhammad al-Hunaydi;NA;PA;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;High;unknown;x
;Shadow Democratic Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
73011;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
73012;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;NA;NA;unknown;x
73013;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Apologetic Clerk;Very High;unknown;x
73014;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Air Superiority Proponent;Low;unknown;x
73015;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Crooked Plutocrat;Medium;unknown;x
73016;Head of Military Intelligence;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Logistics Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
73017;Chief of Staff;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;School of Fire Support;Medium;unknown;x
73018;Chief of Army;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;unknown;x
73019;Chief of Navy;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
73020;Chief of Air Force;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
73021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
73022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LE;NA;NA;unknown;x
73023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Biased Intellectual;High;unknown;x
73024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Administrative Genius;Medium;unknown;x
73025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Silent Lawyer;High;unknown;x
73026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Political Specialist;Low;unknown;x
73027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;School of Maneuver;Medium;unknown;x
73028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
73029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Base Control Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
73030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
73031;Chief of Army;Sultan al-Saud;NA;PA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
73032;Chief of Air Force;Sultan al-Saud;NA;PA;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x

*.csv file and pics sent to Marty on e-mail.

You guys could help me out with the pics to this minister pack (missing most of them). I could track some of them down with Google's pic search but could not sort out who was who (they are all family with eachother, there for having almost identical names).

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Netherlands ministers coded

Netherlands ministers coded:

HOL;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
62001;Head of State;Queen Beatrix;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
62002;Head of Government;Jan Peter Balkenende;NA;RS;NA;NA;jan_peter_balkenende_hol;x
62003;Foreign Minister;Jaap de Hoop Scheffer;NA;RS;Great Compromiser;Medium;jaap_de_hoop_scheffer_hol;x
62004;Minister of Armament;Henk Kamp;NA;RS;Laissez-Faire Capitalist;High;henk_kamp_hol;x
62005;Minister of Security;Johan Remkes;NA;RS;Silent Lawyer;Very High;johan_remkes_hol;x
62006;Head of Military Intelligence;B. Dedden;NA;RS;Industrial Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
62007;Chief of Staff;Luuk Kroon;NA;RS;School of Defense;Medium;unknown;x
62008;Chief of Army;Marcel Urlings;NA;CE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;High;marcel_urlings_hol;x
62009;Chief of Navy;R. Klaver;NA;RS;Base Control Doctrine;High;r_klaver_hol;x
62010;Chief of Air Force;D.L. Berlijn;NA;RS;Army Aviation Doctrine;High;d_l_berlijn_hol;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
62011;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;NS FA PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
62012;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
62013;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Biased Intellectual;High;unknown;x
62014;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Tank Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
62015;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Crooked Plutocrat;Medium;unknown;x
62016;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Technical Specialist;Low;unknown;x
62017;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;FA;School of Fire Support;Medium;unknown;x
62018;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Static Defense Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
62019;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Open Seas Doctrine;High;unknown;x
62020;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Naval Aviation Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
62021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
62022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LE;NA;NA;unknown;x
62023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LE;General Staffer;Medium;unknown;x
62024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Theoretical Scientist;High;unknown;x
62025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;unknown;x
62026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Naval Intelligence Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
62027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;School of Psychology;Medium;unknown;x
62028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
62029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Very High;unknown;x
62030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x

*.csv file and pics sent to Marty on e-mail

PackMan · Dec 13, 2003

Serbien ministers coded

Ministers coded for Serbia:

YUG;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
74001;Head of State;Svetozar Marovic;NA;RS CE LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
74002;Head of Government;Svetozar Marovic;NA;CE;NA;NA;svetozar_marovic_yug;x
74003;Foreign Minister;Goran Svilanovic;NA;CE;Apologetic Clerk;High;goran_svilanovic_yug;x
74004;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Infantry Proponent;Medium;unknown;x
74005;Minister of Security;Boris Tadic;NA;CE;Man of the People;Medium;boris_tadic_yug;x
74006;Head of Military Intelligence;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Technical Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
74007;Chief of Staff;Nikola Grujin;NA;CE;School of Maneuver;Very High;unknown;x
74008;Chief of Army;Branko Krga;NA;CE;Elastic Defense Doctrine;High;unknown;x
74009;Chief of Navy;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Power Projection Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
74010;Chief of Air Force;Radoljub Masic;NA;CE;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
74011;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;NS FA PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
74012;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;PA;NA;NA;unknown;x
74013;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;PA;The Cloak-n-Dagger Schemer;High;unknown;x
74014;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Theoretical Scientist;Medium;unknown;x
74015;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Crooked Plutocrat;Medium;unknown;x
74016;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Logistics Specialist;Medium;unknown;x
74017;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;NS;School of Fire Support;High;unknown;x
74018;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Elastic Defense Doctrine;Very High;unknown;x
74019;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
74020;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;PA;Undistinguished Suit;Low;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
74021;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
74022;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LE;NA;NA;unknown;x
74023;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LE;General Staffer;Medium;unknown;x
74024;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Resource Industrialist;Medium;unknown;x
74025;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Prince of Terror;Medium;unknown;x
74026;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Industrial Specialist;High;unknown;x
74027;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;ST;School of Maneuver;Medium;unknown;x
74028;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;ST;Elastic Defense Doctrine;Medium;unknown;x
74029;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;unknown;x
74030;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LWR;Army Aviation Doctrine;Low;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x

*.csv file and pics sent to Marty on e-mail.
I don't like putting shadow ministers in the ruling government but they were missing in the original post.

Leaders and Ministers

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Field Marshal

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Second Lieutenant

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