Leadermodifications for 1.06

[birch23]

AGAIN PROUDLY PRESENTING

The LAST of the majors are now a full pic file afte I have added 96 pics to United Kingdom....Friends this is indeed a GREAT day...

I should perhaps say that the army section consists of 314 almost identical twins... gee....I jumped for joy whenever I found a general without that silly moustache.

Curiosity:It seems that if a British General enters into politics,there are no pics of him in uniform left....wonder why.

But sent to Vulture.

 

[JRaup]

Re: Re: Re: PROUDLY PRESENTING

Originally posted by birch23
It is not the dead Jellicoe or the retired one we have,,this is his nephew,the confusion stems from the same name,the Jellicoe family has a long naval tradition,Gough has been placed in UK now....(can't remember if I have removed him from Ireland yet,but it will happen,,found some others as well.....not as many as we are removing but nonetheless....

I think then that you have the wrong pic for Jellicoe then. The one in the file is of the uncle, the same one that gets used in nearly every book on Jutland/Skaggerak. I have some Irish pictures scanned in, but not everyone is ID'd as yet. Easiest was Hugo McNeill, and a few others. Let me know if you want them, and I'll zip and send ASAP. Also have a fwe ministers as well. I'm sure TP Coogan won't mind me raping his books for stuff yet again.

 

[birch23]

Re: Re: Re: Re: PROUDLY PRESENTING

Originally posted by JRaup
I think then that you have the wrong pic for Jellicoe then. The one in the file is of the uncle, the same one that gets used in nearly every book on Jutland/Skaggerak. I have some Irish pictures scanned in, but not everyone is ID'd as yet. Easiest was Hugo McNeill, and a few others. Let me know if you want them, and I'll zip and send ASAP. Also have a fwe ministers as well. I'm sure TP Coogan won't mind me raping his books for stuff yet again.

okay will look into it...no of course TP Cogan will mind.... yes please send them along so we can get the correct Irish file.

 

[birch23]

3 ot 4 in one

Now is the time to follow up on all this....who would have guessed we would come so far... and it is time to activate Frodon(if he is still alive.... I will now start the full finishing of all the files....although I will make Manchukuo ASAP.(the problem is still Croatia/Yugoslavia)

1)I will now go through each country from A to Z and apply code 512 to air/navy (done in some files so far)

2) I will add the last pics to these files including politicians.

3)I will now add the election possibilities to change the political climate of each nation,and I will reduce the no.of political views accepted by each gov(historical)NOTICE It will not be all nations in which the election possibility will be introduced.But I have now tested the options so throughly in Romania that a "vanilla" player can use these to take either the historical or the own point view to follow.

It will mean due to the restrictions of game that some govs will have to start as at least LC(with PA ministers) to get the election possibilty...a shame but we will have to live with that.

We will start with the letter A...

Afghanistan;I have deleted the commie option here as such a party did not exist before 1965 (no elections will be held) PA suits fine.

Albania:I will change the start gov to LC/PA and introduce one election in 1936 this will simply choose between PA or ST...might give Albania better chanches.(this country has not seen democracy ever....

Argentina:Well here we have trouble..since a lot of the S-Am countries had a special political way generally referred to as nacionalistas.This was socialism with heavy national view on top of it (basically this is Nationalsocialism..NOT nazi) but the original form.Representatives of this is Peron,Ibarra,Pinilla,and Batista for example. and quite a lot others (Vargas in Brazil for example while in contrast Somoza etc was full blooded right wing dictators....Now my suggestion for Argentine is that the 36 election is pure democratic with Justo being the LC,when he was thrown out of office we will hold one versus LC/PA and PA/FA if the first one is choosen we can have one full democratic between LC and RS(with LWR support-Péron is coming..... and at last end up with dem vs. LWR(with PA ministers for example... peronism.

Australia:there will be no changes in AUS except narrowing the ministers available to each election way.LC or RS

Austria:Now this is a goody,but we will have to cheat a little here.we will have to start with Schussnigg as LC and a election in 36 vs. Schussnigg(LC) and Schussnigg PA (the historical way) there should be an election too in 38 between Schussnigg(LC) and Seyss Inquart (NS) if the dem way is choosen then there should not be another election before 45 where we will push the option between RS(Renner- and Stalinism on the other side forward.

Now if you can agree in these ideas I will finish off the countries starting with A.....

 

[JRaup]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PROUDLY PRESENTING

Originally posted by birch23
okay will look into it...no of course TP Cogan will mind.... yes please send them along so we can get the correct Irish file.

File sent. Let me know if it causes your email box to explode into small shiny bits of data floating across the net.

 

[unmerged(19545)]

Here's a great big mod.

Been discussing the problem of stacks of 12 tactical bombers evaporating small corps on their own, and we suddenly realized that for at least the first years of the war, these stacks were actually impossible, not just a-historical. There just wasn't anyone with the skills and knowledge to coordinate the activity of such an air-armada.

Eventually the thousand bomber raids became possible, but only through many lessons learned, and much doctrine gained. Ande even then, the armada formed in one area, flew to one place, dropped their bombs and went home.

So here's the mod: reduce all air leaders across the board to major or lieutenant general, and their skill to 0, or at most 1. Better leaders would be differentiated by their special skills.

Naturally this is not historically consistent with their theoretical ranks and titles, but it is consistent with what they could actually do. After all, Der Eisener may have had a Field Marshall's baton, but he fumbled the Battle of Britain, and that was fairly straightforward.

Certainly there were plenty of brilliant pilots in command in the early war, but being a pilot is almost completely unrelated to being an air general. Kesselring only learned to fly when he was 48, and never flew in combat, and the greatest air general of the war(imho) Hugh Dowding was forbidden to fly by his daddy, so he never did.

Eventually air leaders would aquire the skill to be promoted to higher levels, but later on, larger formations became possible anyway.

 

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You can't dump all air leaders to the lowest rank, since the computer never promotes his leaders.

 

[unmerged(15998)]

Birch, since Spain starts by "S" I have still some time left, right? I'll open a thread in the spanish forum to arge about the matter, if you please. Should I ask the moderator there?

 

[birch23]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PROUDLY PRESENTING

Originally posted by JRaup
File sent. Let me know if it causes your email box to explode into small shiny bits of data floating across the net.

nonono I got it allright..I have a fairly big mailbox....goody pics.

 

[birch23]

Re: Here's a great big mod.

Originally posted by Dog Cavalry
Been discussing the problem of stacks of 12 tactical bombers evaporating small corps on their own, and we suddenly realized that for at least the first years of the war, these stacks were actually impossible, not just a-historical. There just wasn't anyone with the skills and knowledge to coordinate the activity of such an air-armada.

Eventually the thousand bomber raids became possible, but only through many lessons learned, and much doctrine gained. Ande even then, the armada formed in one area, flew to one place, dropped their bombs and went home.

So here's the mod: reduce all air leaders across the board to major or lieutenant general, and their skill to 0, or at most 1. Better leaders would be differentiated by their special skills.

Naturally this is not historically consistent with their theoretical ranks and titles, but it is consistent with what they could actually do. After all, Der Eisener may have had a Field Marshall's baton, but he fumbled the Battle of Britain, and that was fairly straightforward.

Certainly there were plenty of brilliant pilots in command in the early war, but being a pilot is almost completely unrelated to being an air general. Kesselring only learned to fly when he was 48, and never flew in combat, and the greatest air general of the war(imho) Hugh Dowding was forbidden to fly by his daddy, so he never did.

Eventually air leaders would aquire the skill to be promoted to higher levels, but later on, larger formations became possible anyway.

i'm afraid it is one of the things we will have to live with in this game,but you are right btw.But because of the AI we can't change it.....and hmmm.....it was a Reichsmarschall's baton he had....

 

[birch23]

Originally posted by Ivan the red
Birch, since Spain starts by "S" I have still some time left, right? I'll open a thread in the spanish forum to arge about the matter, if you please. Should I ask the moderator there?

Typical,typical always mañana (or however that is spelled... ) well I thought Spain started with E....

Well to be earnest yes you have all the time till I get to S(R-N) so you can have a loooong discussion in the Spanish forum.About the moderator,,,it is never a fault to ask for permission for anything.....

 

[unmerged(1973)]

Re: 3 ot 4 in one

Originally posted by birch23
Now is the time to follow up on all this....who would have guessed we would come so far... and it is time to activate Frodon(if he is still alive....

I'm still very much alive and kicking

 

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Birch

"always mañana" damn, you caught me! where has gone that Birch that told me to concentrate on examinations?

 

[Halibutt]

I suggest giving von dem Bach skill 5 for obvious reasons and also a logistics trait (barely any other units in the whole german army were as good equipped as his -- especially in dollars, gold, radios and other stuff).

Friedrich Wilhelm Krueger (or here) - mj. gen., skill 3, logistics and offensive. Among his many deeds were executions in Belzen (took part personally), but later he commanded a division in Finland and - above all - was never even accused of a single war crime.
More to follow

 

[birch23]

Re: Re: 3 ot 4 in one

Originally posted by Frodon
I'm still very much alive and kicking

Well I am glad that you are alive...and as for the kicking..we will leave that tó the Norwegian National Team..... But I would like you to take an occasional glance at the proposed elections I will add to the "vanilla" version of HOI.You can as always be very helpful with links etc.(and stop me if I'm going over the hill....

 

[birch23]

Re: Birch

Originally posted by Ivan the red
"always mañana" damn, you caught me! where has gone that Birch that told me to concentrate on examinations?

The concentrate examination Birch is the smiling business real Birch.The mañana demanding Birch is HOI Birch...this game and this task have severely damaged my personality.....

 

[Dibo]

I have just downloaded the Picture pack - truly wondrous work

However I have a complaint to make - the Bulgarian file seems not to have changed since July. What happened to the new pictures I have provided?

Edit: Gee...this thread is enourmous now. Anyway Birch I'm talking about the guys on page 31:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92693&perpage=25&pagenumber=31
And this guy:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92693&perpage=25&pagenumber=41

There were probably more I don't recall o

 

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American politics and leaders files

Hi To all
At the moment i still have the 1.04 patch for two reasons, the 1.05c is is in zip file and i think you need a software program which i think i dont have to download it, ( correct me if im wrong about needing some software program to download the zip files ) so im simply going to wait till 1.06 comes out,but i see there is a new zip file for the leaders picture pack and proporganda pack so my question is when i do download patch 1.06 will it run fine with out this new leader picture pack zip file can anyone tell me thanks.

The second thing i would like to ask about is the American leadership or government in the game i usually play Europe in the game, but out of curiosity just before i got on line to the forum i decided to check the US Government leader board to my surprise i noticed that the Head of Government and the Head of State are one in the same, now being a Australian our head of state is the current Queen of England ( and for the record im a republican and long for the day we become a republic no offense to the Monarchist ) anyway i have a general perception of the American system so should not the Speaker of the House be the Head of State and the US President the Head of Government in game terms from my understanding the speaker is very powerful in the US Government correct me if im wrong,i dont know if this has been brought up as the search system is still down so i could not check, could this not work for the game having the Speaker as Head of State, it would make things very interesting having a Republican Speaker and a Democrat President running the Government just as you could have Liberal Conservative Head of State and a Centrist Head of Government running Great Briton.
Regards TM1

 

[unmerged(1973)]

Re: American politics and leaders files

Originally posted by TM1
At the moment i still have the 1.04 patch for two reasons, the 1.05c is is in zip file and i think you need a software program which i think i dont have to download it, ( correct me if im wrong about needing some software program to download the zip files )

You don't need a program to download it. However you do need a program called winzip to open the file. You can download it from free here:

http://www.winzip.com

Originally posted by TM1

so im simply going to wait till 1.06 comes out,but i see there is a new zip file for the leaders picture pack and proporganda pack so my question is when i do download patch 1.06 will it run fine with out this new leader picture pack zip file can anyone tell me thanks.

Shouldn't be a problem to download 1.06 without the picture pack. However you won't get all the fantastic pics and leaders included in the picture pack...

Originally posted by TM1
i have a general perception of the American system so should not the Speaker of the House be the Head of State and the US President the Head of Government in game terms from my understanding the speaker is very powerful in the US Government correct me if im wrong,i dont know if this has been brought up as the search system is still down so i could not check, could this not work for the game having the Speaker as Head of State, it would make things very interesting having a Republican Speaker and a Democrat President running the Government just as you could have Liberal Conservative Head of State and a Centrist Head of Government running Great Briton.
Regards TM1 [/B]

Can't see why this should make things more interesting. IIRC the Head of Government doesn't have a function i HoI

 

[unmerged(15998)]

The concentrate examination Birch is the smiling business real Birch.The mañana demanding Birch is HOI Birch...this game and this task have severely damaged my personality.....

Too bad

I've opened the thread in the spanish forum. I hope everyone will be concentrated in Victoria and nobody shall notice. Otherwise, I'll have to give a lot of answers :wacko: