Latin Empire FTW!

[RobRoy3]

Undocumented feature!? (Or at least I missed it in the change log and the development diaries)

But, in addition to all the other empires, you can now create the Latin Empire, if you're Catholic and hold the City of Men's Desire.

Guess that 4th Crusade might happen, after all...

I also notice that Tinacria still appears to be formable, though Naples isn't. Wonder whether an oversight or an intentional change?

 

[lordreaven448]

This pleases me. I <3 the Latin Empire.

 

[Doomdark]

It's a bit too easy to form. Will be changed.

 

[Alerias]

It's a bit too easy to form. Will be changed.

Its only easy because the City is massively underpowered. It would require 20 holding slots to properly display the superiority of Constantinople at the time, before the 4th Crusade, compared to everything else there was in the world. It was in a league of its own, and Im sure if it was properly modeled, taking it would be the hardest accomplishment.

 

[lordreaven448]

It's a bit too easy to form. Will be changed.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:angry:

Why? Do you do this to spite me?

 

[RobRoy3]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:angry:

Why? Do you do this to spite me?

Ditto! You get us all excited, then pull the rug from under us! AAAAAaaargh!!!!

Well, as long as it's still doable, we'll see. If the only way to get that massively over-powered nation down to size is for a player to mis-crusade, so be it.

 

[kingsword]

No de jure vassals of Latin Empire so it's not really on par with real empires.

 

[Arilou]

Its only easy because the City is massively underpowered. It would require 20 holding slots to properly display the superiority of Constantinople at the time, before the 4th Crusade, compared to everything else there was in the world. It was in a league of its own, and Im sure if it was properly modeled, taking it would be the hardest accomplishment.

Nah, there were others. Baghdad, for one.

 

[NewbieOne]

Its only easy because the City is massively underpowered. It would require 20 holding slots to properly display the superiority of Constantinople at the time, before the 4th Crusade, compared to everything else there was in the world. It was in a league of its own, and Im sure if it was properly modeled, taking it would be the hardest accomplishment.

Kinda like, yeah.

 

[garbaldie]

Nah, there were others. Baghdad, for one.

Along with Cordoba and Merv, each at one time were believed to be one of the most populous cities in the world. Cordoba in the 10th and Merv in the 12th centuries.

 

[Mods]

It's also formable when you already have the byzantine empire, this seems completely ridiculous to me
Maybe the byzantine empire should change to the latin empire when a catholic ruler inherits? I'm not sure what would be the most historically plausible solution though

 

[Faeelin]

Its only easy because the City is massively underpowered. It would require 20 holding slots to properly display the superiority of Constantinople at the time, before the 4th Crusade, compared to everything else there was in the world. It was in a league of its own, and Im sure if it was properly modeled, taking it would be the hardest accomplishment.

This was the city taken by a crusading force led by an octogenarian blind man, right?

 

[Nuril]

This was the city taken by a crusading force led by an octogenarian blind man, right?

So you're essentially setting your mind to denigrating the ERE wherever a mention of it can be found for no particular reason? It is not a point of debate that it far exceeded the rest of Europe as a city. The fact that that doesn't make it eternally invincible doesn't mean a thing. Though it'd be nice to get some internal instability events/mechanics to help the enemy along in a Byzantine DLC.

And I don't know why you're talking about Enrico Dandolo as if he were an invalid.

 

[Arathian]

This was the city taken by a crusading force led by an octogenarian blind man, right?

"taken" is not a correct word for that. The closest thing to describe it would be "coup" of which Constantinople had plenty of.

 

[Rev1917]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:angry:

Why? Do you do this to spite me?

You know there are some mods (hint CK2+) where there are scenarios which start with the Latin Empire already formed, right?

 

[Alerias]

You know there are some mods (hint CK2+) where there are scenarios which start with the Latin Empire already formed, right?

You dont need mods to start in 1205.

You just need to be willing to micro around the terrible mid-to-late-game attrition mechanics.

 

[lordreaven448]

You dont need mods to start in 1205.

You just need to be willing to micro around the terrible mid-to-late-game attrition mechanics.

I start on August 1st, 1204.