As some of you already know they have the latin (roman) culture in the game to be used for back history on the Roman Empire. I believe that it should be added into the game as the culture for the islands of Sardinia and Corsica for the ToG startdate for a couple of reasons and I hope you and Paradox consider my reasons and opt to make a change to the game.
1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_language#Classification_and_related_languages That's a comparison of the breakdown of modern languages from Latin. As you can see, these islands languages are extremely conservative and aren't even in the same ballpark as Italo-Western Romance would evolve into.
2: Dante Alighieri stated in De Vulgari Eloquentia (1303-1305) that Sardinians were not Italics and, furthermore, had never developed any Vulgar language of their own in his opinion, preferring to imitate Latin instead. Now if this is common thought in 1303 I think we can assume in late 800's they have got to be pretty conservative latin in culture.
3: Unlike the mainland Italy, Roman rule was maintained in the area except for a small period of 78 years starting in 456. The muslim conquest of Sicily between 827 and 902 cutoff communication with the E.R.E. but the culture and administration continued as is but independent during this time. At ToG start date they just became independent. Their culture should have a lot more in common with the Eastern Roman Empire as opposed to the italian mainland. Sidethought: If a player were to recapture all of Sicily from the Muslims the Empire would never write them off as an imperial province in 952.
3: Having escaped the barbarian conquests and mass settlement that reshaped the rest of Western Europe, early medieval Sardinian political institutions evolved from the millennium old Roman imperial structures with relatively little Germanic influence. Although they used hereditary lordships for the rulers, the old Roman imperial notion that separated personal title or honor from the state still persisted, so the state was not regarded as the personal property of the monarch as was common in later European feudalism. Like the imperial systems, they also preserved "semi-democratic" forms, with national assemblies. Seems to me they should reflect this with a latin culture to suggest their backwater conserative style as opposed to the mainlands evolution in less conservative thinking for the time.
4. And I think this is the most important reason: For those that want to return Latin to the mainland or recreate a united Latin Roman Empire without cheating in the culture or using a ruler designer character this is the best way to do so while being historically viable.
I hope my reasons persuade a change to these provinces.
1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_language#Classification_and_related_languages That's a comparison of the breakdown of modern languages from Latin. As you can see, these islands languages are extremely conservative and aren't even in the same ballpark as Italo-Western Romance would evolve into.
2: Dante Alighieri stated in De Vulgari Eloquentia (1303-1305) that Sardinians were not Italics and, furthermore, had never developed any Vulgar language of their own in his opinion, preferring to imitate Latin instead. Now if this is common thought in 1303 I think we can assume in late 800's they have got to be pretty conservative latin in culture.
3: Unlike the mainland Italy, Roman rule was maintained in the area except for a small period of 78 years starting in 456. The muslim conquest of Sicily between 827 and 902 cutoff communication with the E.R.E. but the culture and administration continued as is but independent during this time. At ToG start date they just became independent. Their culture should have a lot more in common with the Eastern Roman Empire as opposed to the italian mainland. Sidethought: If a player were to recapture all of Sicily from the Muslims the Empire would never write them off as an imperial province in 952.
3: Having escaped the barbarian conquests and mass settlement that reshaped the rest of Western Europe, early medieval Sardinian political institutions evolved from the millennium old Roman imperial structures with relatively little Germanic influence. Although they used hereditary lordships for the rulers, the old Roman imperial notion that separated personal title or honor from the state still persisted, so the state was not regarded as the personal property of the monarch as was common in later European feudalism. Like the imperial systems, they also preserved "semi-democratic" forms, with national assemblies. Seems to me they should reflect this with a latin culture to suggest their backwater conserative style as opposed to the mainlands evolution in less conservative thinking for the time.
4. And I think this is the most important reason: For those that want to return Latin to the mainland or recreate a united Latin Roman Empire without cheating in the culture or using a ruler designer character this is the best way to do so while being historically viable.
I hope my reasons persuade a change to these provinces.
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