Late Game performance issues?

[klotim]

I've been trying to handle the performance issues with the game.

I use mods like disabling collaborate and Ai demobilization and so on but it still doesn't improve the performance. Is there a memory leak or something that is happening?

Because it gets really slow after 1945 even though you defeated Axis so there shouldnt be as much computation compared to when the war was ongoing.

My rig is very high end.

RIG: RTX 2080Ti, 32GB 3200Mhz Ram, i7 5820K 6 core 5ghz and m.2 disk.

 

[BeauNiddle]

It's (mainly) the number of divisions. If the world tension is high then every country in the world gets scared and starts producing defensive units. Even after defeating the axis there will still be hundreds, if not thousands, of divisions around the world. Working out what they are going to do takes time.

It's the same reason games of Civ, Total War and other such long term strategy games all slow down as you move through the time scale.

If it was a memory leak then restarting the game would fix it. It's not - it's sheer amount of processing required.

 

[Voigt]

The problem is not that those divisions exist, it is more that they are "active" receving calculated commands, since there is still war with Japan. If there is fully peace in the World, then the performance should get better again, ut aslong as the Allies still fight (Japan) the performance doesn't really change, even if you defeated the Axis. Especially if they got peaceconfereced, joined the Allies and also battle the Japanese.

 

[DicRoNero]

Of course there should be issues! The mighty El Salvador has just joined our ranks and appears to have fielded 42 divisions of his own! Ze Germans better be scared!

 

[Ivankovsky]

The problem is not that those divisions exist, it is more that they are "active" receving calculated commands, since there is still war with Japan. If there is fully peace in the World, then the performance should get better again, ut aslong as the Allies still fight (Japan) the performance doesn't really change, even if you defeated the Axis. Especially if they got peaceconfereced, joined the Allies and also battle the Japanese.

I don't know about that, even games were such peace was achieved still "run" horribly on my PC.
To give an example, in my last long campaign to get the Macau cheevo, pretty much all the Allies were annexed (including UK, France, Canada, Benelux, USSR), Japan was also annexed and there were no wars whatsoever. From that point I though about going for a world conquest, but the game was running so slow I couldn't bother even building up to defeat the axis...

I had dozens of games ending like this, the ultimate enemy in hoi4 you have to prepare to is the inevitable impending late-game lag...

Annexing countries and killing/deleting AI divisions certainly helps, as does peace time, but I think even peace time divisions are draining too much out of your CPU...
(my CPU is a Ryzen 1500x, not remotely high-end but still way above the recommended)

Also, Germany after winning the war tends to make a LUDICROUS amount of divisions, my memory might be exaggerating on this one but I think one time they reached 1000 division in the field (and yes it was post LaR)!

 

[GSP Jr]

One thing that always seems to help (for a while) is to save/reload the game.
The internal program data that accumulates as the days/weeks/months/years go by can be huge.

 

[kettyo]

Of course there should be issues! The mighty El Salvador has just joined our ranks and appears to have fielded 42 divisions of his own! Ze Germans better be scared!

I wonder if El Salvador really needs 42 divisions of 3 INF

I'd say they might be better off with 9 divisions of 13 INF.

 

[MobiusTwo]

I think a lot of late-game performance problems could be solved if they added division limits like Kaiserreich now has, or gave every South American country national spirits that cripples their manpower, like India has to deal with. Ideally, with less manpower, the AI would churn out fewer divisions. It wouldn't exactly make any of those affected South American nations fun to play as, but I would argue that none of them are really worth playing as, and they never really contribute anything towards the game anyway. It would be somewhat justified historically since those nations' contributions towards WWII was minimal.

 

[Vlad123]

I think a lot of late-game performance problems could be solved if they added division limits like Kaiserreich now has, or gave every South American country national spirits that cripples their manpower, like India has to deal with. Ideally, with less manpower, the AI would churn out fewer divisions. It wouldn't exactly make any of those affected South American nations fun to play as, but I would argue that none of them are really worth playing as, and they never really contribute anything towards the game anyway. It would be somewhat justified historically since those nations' contributions towards WWII was minimal.

in an online game there was this problem, only it was not the "lag" but just the amount of troops one could enlist unlimitedly. As well as ships: with few ports / shipyards, having the necessary resources, a fleet like the USA could be built. So manpower should be either decreased for everyone, or put in a resource (food, supplies, money, call it whatever you want) that limits troops. If the troops consume 100 and produce over 100 I do not recruit otherwise they start to suffer all malus. Simple in online games if you go negative between production and "resources in stockpile" you simply lose troops until you return to the positive.