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Enlil

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Introduction:
It has been some time since I have done an AAR, and this one promises to be interesting. Using the WTWSMS Mod, I played through an observer game, from 480 all the way to 659. At which point, I decided to stop, and allow the community to vote for which failing power I should try and restore. This game promises to be an interesting one, full of ahistory and chaos.

Godogost:

Godogost is the most powerful NPC in my AAR world.

Now, to discover his childhood and early years are difficult, as none would have noticed a man of unremarkable position, growing up in Herulian Russia during the peak of the Last Succession War. You could assume he grew to dislike his foreign lieges, but the conversion to Slavic culture must have appeased him to the point to work with him. (Later research shows he was fired from a council position, presumably Marshal) This time is also when he married, but all but 1 of his children were born in Bengal. One could give as much praise no doubt to his loyal wife, who followed him to the shores of Britain to the halls of the Caliph. He originally fled Russia when it converted to Zoroastrianism, where he served in the Roman Armies during the Last Succession war, where he and another famous Slav Radislav the Old (former Avar Khagan and current Imperial Regent) would defeat the armies of the Cappadocian Candidate. Later, Godogost would try to create a Steppe empire, but would be defeated by the Rouran. Escaping there, he became a commander in the armies of the Caliph, and through the conquest of Perisa, built and adventurer army and took over Bengal. Then, the Buddhists made him abdicate, where his infant son took control nominally, while the Buddhist lords struggle for power in the regency council. Godogost then went to central Germany, where he plots unknown horrors against the world.

Educate yourself further of this crazy world here - http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...Period-Mod&p=18509930&viewfull=1#post18509930

Why This?:
Why didn't you just do an AAR from the normal startdates, to show off the historical nations?

That is for a variety of mechanial reasons:
1. Nicene Schisms
2. Islam
3. A Representation of how the game is still interesting ever hundreds of years in.
4. The beginning of the end of the migration era.
5. Some very interesting ahistorical leaders, nations, and battles.

There are also some ahistory reasons:
1. India is in the shadow of the long dead Hepthalite Empire.
2. The ruins of the failed Frisian Empire
3. The Rise and Fall of Godogost, the most dangerous man to have ever lived.
4. The Restored Roman Empire
5. The Immortal control of Oman

Table of Contents:

Prolouge: Foederati War (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...WTWSMS-AAR&p=18588916&viewfull=1#post18588916)
Chapter 1: Deliver us from Evil
Chapter 2: Horn of Plenty
Chapter 3:The Guard Captain and the Pagan
Chapter 4: Godogost Triumphant
Chapter 5: Bridgebuilder Emperor
Interlude: The Caliphal Gate
Chapter 6: Under the Shadow of Frisia
Chapter 7: Death at the Eastern Door
Interlude: Tzanichite Song
Chapter 8: Last of Dead Kings
Chapter 9: (In Progress)

Though the Voting is Over, this information is still good for background on the nations:

Nations:
Westliklân
Leader: Tsening Sidei Thiadbrundsoan Engibald
Culture: Old Frisian
Religion: Nicene
Description:
There was a day, long ago, when Westliklân was feared. Rulers of the World they were called. It all started long ago, when the Franks, under the mighty Clovis
conquered Frisia, and displaced its people. On man, the Crown Prince of Frisia, Folcpald became a commander in the Frankish Army. His skill led to the conquest of Thuringia and Alamannia, and countless prestige for the Frankish Kingdom and Folcpald. Eventually, Folcpald would build his own army, and destroy the failing Soissons, and begin building of Europe's most feared Empires. Slowly though, the Empire began to fail, as the Anglo-Saxons pushed them from England and Spain, and rebellious Frisian states, at first under the Christians of Tarraconensis, and later on the pagans, whose rebellion led to what was Soissons to become a new Kingdom called Bidlersân. What more, the Saxons, brutal enemies of the Frisians, have hunted the Empire wherever it could, going as far as to invade Spain to drive them out. Now, the Empire is almost dead, with nothing more than the old city of Parisium under your control, can you strike out against your traitorous vassals in Bidlersân, or will the Empire at last be consumed in fire.

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Raydan:
Leader: Queen Niki bint Zabur banu Raydan
Culture: Kahlan
Religion: Miaphysite
Description:
The Ancient Kingdom of Azd'Uman was once the dominate power in the Southern Arabian world. What more, it was the last bastion of old Semitic traditions, until the conversion of Jafnah the Hunter in 544, converted at the sword by the Axumite Empire. Now, two dynasties later, the ancient land still survives, where the other nations fell to the Umma. But Raydan is not in this reduced state due to the Muslims. Instead, the Immortals, in order to regain a new powerbase, invaded Oman, and drove the Raydani to near extinction. Raydan's protectors in Axum are no more, and the splinter kingdom of Yaman is too preoccupied with the Caliph to protect the failing Kingdom.

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Oriental Empire:
Leader: Imperator Damianos Polkarios VI the Wise
Culture: Roman
Religion: Nicene
Description:
Where the general case following the Succession Wars was the secession from the Empire, only the Oriens would go as far as to claim the Imperial Title themselves With the crowning of Damianos III in Antioch, a new Empire was formed, creating an unsolvable dispute between the Oriens and Rome. Originally controlling the wealth of Egypt and Syria, the Oriens stood prepared to invade the Ghassanids and create a great Eastern Empire, now, with the reconquest of Egypt by Rome, and Syria's new independence, the true Eastern Empire faces annihilation at the hands of Islam.

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Rai:
Leader: Maharaja Raidhan Rai III
Culture: Sindhi
Religion: Hepthalism
A long time ago, before the oldest of memories, came the Hordes. Fierce and terrifying, the Hepthalites poured into India, slaughtering and conquering all they could. In the end, the dark horsemen stopped at the Bengali city of Gauda, and consolidated their realm. India was in a panic, the Horde was prepared to consume all of India, and so, many princes aligned with the Hordes, forsaking their religion, and even their cultures, to appease their new dark masters. The Dravidians were appalled, the Kalabhras soon isolated themselves from India. Then, everything changed. Against all odds, against all beliefs, the Hepthalites
pulled back, their power weakened, and eventually, the Horde was no more. Suddenly, the Bhojid, the Spalahores, the Rai, and the Hunas were in a dangerous situation. In their conversion, they committed the greatest sin against their their former Hindu culture, and knew there was no turning back. This was of no consequence to the Hunas, who were already aliens in Tengriism before the Hepthalites, and quickly sought to replace the Hepthalites as a power. One man though, rose up. Ruler of the petty nation of Rai, his father were one of the first to submit to the Horde, and one of the first to swear total fealty. When the Horde collapsed though, he took his chance. Declaring independence, he quickly declared himself King of Sindh, but this was but the beginning, yes, only the start of Raidhan Rai. He began by conquering the Govindids, avenging the murder of his Grandfather, and then immediately conquering Gujurat. Barely two years afterwards, he began warring against the Bhakti heretics, and expanded down the Western Coastline. Once again, the Hindus were fearful, for every day, it was said, Raidhan Rai became less of a Sindhi, and more of a Hepthalite. And so, terror gripped India. Then, the unexpected happened. The true Horde returned. Chosroes Chubnan the Bold, whose family served under the Hepthalite Emperor's themselves, invaded India, and began to restore the Horde. One day, this all came to an end. India had long been isolated by the Kidarites, a Xionite clan which ruled all of Persia, and established Hepthalism as far as Persepolis itself, had fallen. This new foe, apparently more powerful than the Sassanids, more powerful than the Kidarites, stood poised to conquer all of India, brought fear to the North Indians. Who pushed further and further eastward to escape the Islamic menace. One nation stood. The Hunas, always one apart from the other states, went on the offensive, capturing swaths of Bhojid and Rai land, created an offensive against the Caliph, and won. Over 40,000 of the soldiers of Islam died on the plains of Bhakkar, and all India knew, that a new Horde had arisen. All except Rai. The current King, Raidhan Rai III, is 1 year old, following his father's death to the Slavic Warrior-King Godogost. Collapsing due to civil war, to save the Rai, and restore the glory of the New Horde to India would require Raidhan Rai III to be as good as his namesake. Is he?

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Charsianon:
Leader: King Brogimaros de Heraklea the Liberator
Culture: Galatian
Religion: Nicene
Description:
Unlike the previous nations, Charsianon lacks the ancient strength they once possessed. One of the many states which gained independence following the Succession Wars following the death of Emperor Marcus II, Charsianon has maintained its unstable existence for only a few decades. But, in this city state there is potential, for a new Celtic power to arise, free from the destruction at the hands of the Frisians and Saxons.

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Some Scenes from the World:

Carpathia:
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One of the Frisian Successors:
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You'll here about him a bit further down:
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Germany's Religions:
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Another Two Important Guys:
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Ruler of Skane:
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Lazica:
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Rus:
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Last Remains of the Rouran:
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One of the Twin Kings:
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Immortals:
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The Caliph:
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Apollinarians:
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Germany:
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Rouran at their height:
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Politics 500's:
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Religions Now:
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1. Rus
Leader: Kagan Boris Heruli the Noble
Culture: Old Slavic
Religion: Zoroastrian
Description:
In ancient times, the Herulian people migrated into the lands of the Rus, and founded a great kingdom. Uniting the Slavic tribes, they eventually became assimilated into them. Later, a conversion to Zoroastrianism allowed for a reorganization of Rus, and Russian preachers spread the Zoroastrian faith deep into Eastern Germany. Now, the mighty rulers of Rus, who also bear the titles of Lithuania and Herul, seek to restore the Zoroastrian Empire after the fall of the Sassanids.

2. Itil
Leader: High Chief Eshkakh Bezmerid
Culture: Old Slavic
Religion: Slavic Paganism
Description:
Itil is a curiosity in the world, barely more than the city of Ryazan, Itilian soldiers can turn the tides of a war. This is because Itil is the last beacon of an old way, when the Slavs used to practice old traditions. scattered throughout the Russian territory are sovereign, pagan city-states, like Orsha, Gorodez, Lepiel, and Chernigov. The most powerful though is Itil, which is the remains of a great, migratory steppe Empire, created by the great Rouran Khagan Oljaitu 100 years before. Now, the tale of Itil is not great conquests, but survival.

3. Umma-al Islam
Leader: Caliph Aram ibn Abdul-Jaleel Dinnid
Culture: Adnanite
Religion: Islamic
Description:
The rise of Islam was unexpected in the world. The Axumite Empire had brought the Southern Arabs under control, and the Trifectate Arabs controlled the North. Then, after the death of the Prophet Mohammad, the conquests began. Under the Caliph Abdul-Jaleel, the Caliphate expanded further and further into Arab and Sassanid land, eventually destroying the Kidarites. Now, many fear that this is the beginning of a new Islamic era for the Middle East.


4. Frisia
Leader: Tsening Menfrid Thadwardsoan fan Auzerre the Cruel
Culture: Old Frisian
Religion: Nicene
Description:
Though Westliklân may have fallen, the Frisian dream has not. Mighty Tarraconensis marked the turning point in the decline of the mighty Empire, with the skilled and competent Kings sparring with the weak and gluttonous Emperors. What more, this marked the turning point in the rise of Christiandom, expelling Paganism and Arianism from its wide territories. Now, holding the Kingdoms of Baetica, Tarraconensis, Africa, and Septem Provincae, they saw fit to declare themselves King of All Frisia, marking a new age in Frisian Imperialism.

5. Sverige
Leader: Lofðungr Haraldr Dagsson Childefontaws
Culture: Dane
Religion: Old Germanic
Description:
The ancient kingdom of Sverige has always followed the Old Ways, valiantly fighting against the servants of the cross. Then, the Franks came, intent on building their own Empire to counter the mighty Frisians, and under the mighty Pippin the Great, the Germanic traditions were codified, and restyled in the vein of Arianism, of which they would later convert to. The Danes refused this pact, along with many other powerful leaders, not content to listen to the whims of a distant Frankish priest, and continued their ways. In the end, the resulting religious war resulted in the collapse of the Franks, and the destruction of the Holy Tree in Furstenberg by Reformationists.

6. Roman Empire
Leader: Emperor Marcus of Görz III "the Snake"
Culture: Roman
Religion: Nicene
Description:
The Roman Empire almost fell. Not to Odoacer, who quickly fell into line, not to the Ostrogoths who found death at Roman hands. No, the Empire almost fell in 632, when Marcus II died of Pneumonia. The resulting succession war was catastrophic, with the Slavic warlord Radigost controlling the Empire (He earlier was Avar Khagan), and the crowning of Damianos of Oriental Emperor. Later though, the true wars began, with Pontus pushing Julius Nepos V to the throne, and Asia pushing Martinus Kommenos. The result was brutal, with a large number of Eastern lords declaring independence, and a joint Moesian-Achaian front placing the infant Marcus III on the throne. Now, Marcus is older, and has proved himself by recapturing Egypt. Now, it seems that there is hope for a Roman Revival.

7. Oriens
Leader: Imperator Damianos Polkarios IV the Wise
Culture: Roman
Religion: Nicene
Description:
(See voting description)

8. Bidlerslân
Leader: Tsening Liudger Hroðwardsoan Sjongfûgel the Great
Culture: Old Frisian
Religion: Reformed Germanic
Description:
Bidler's Lân is one of the most powerful successors to the failed nation of Westliklân. One of the last Frisian nations to still follow the Germanic rites, it is the last breath of an old way of Frisian life.

9. Italia
Leader: Rex Decius Constantius II "the Do-Gooder"
Culture: Roman
Religion: Apollinarian
Description:
Following the murder of Philip Anicius II, the realm of Italia soon fell to the Constantii, a major Apollinarian dynasty. This marked the beginning of the end for the Nicene church in Italy. Now, the rulers of Italia continue to solidify their rule in Italy, but it is believed that the fledgeling Marcus III is planning his own invasion, to restore Italy to the Empire once and for all.

10. Bengal
Leader: Kagan Rogovlad Godogostid
Culture: Old Slavic
Religion: Slavic
Description:
No man is quite as feared as the terrible Godogost. Former soldier in the Roman Army, Godogost quickly rose to prominence, before carving out his own steppe kingdom. This falling, Godogost found employment in the Kidarite army, and won a few early battles against the Caliphate. Following the fall of Kidara, Godogost fled into India, where he built up his own army, and conquered Bengal. His greatest achievement though was the killing of Umar Rai II, Raidhan Rai III's father in the battle of Godwad, ending Rai supremacy. Now, Godogost was driven from
Bengal, where he plots new, and greater schemes in central Germany, as his infant son Rogovlad rules as the Indian lords fight to control the regency.

11. Deccan Empire
Leader: Samray Gopalrao Vakatakas IV the Wise
Culture: Maharashtri Prakrit
Religion: Tantric
Description:
None expected the Vakatakas, last shield of Hinduism to falter. None expected Hinduism to be nigh driven from the Earth. But it happened, and Gopalrao is to blame. None know the reason for his conversion to the obscure Heterodox cult, but it spelled a drastic change in the Vakatakas society. Many had thought the Vakatakas to be dead, as crippling Hepthalite raids had reduced the Empire to two counties, as the warring Maharashtri tribes slowly turned on each other. Then, the unthinkable came when Gopalrao II the Bad reunited the tribes. Here is where Tantrism comes in. No more than 3 years had passed since he had reunited the Empire, when he died in battle against a lowborn Tantric Heresiarch by the name of Marsimha the Twister. This victory would be short lived, but he would eventually die in the prisons of Gopalrao III the Just. Gopalrao's son, Gopalrao IV apparently befriended the criminal, and eventually was convinced to convert to Tantrism. And so fell Hinduism.

(Emperor's Note: A neat fact to mention is the Empire did not unite all of the tribes. A two county duchy called the Nala Raj has maintained its independence. As it is the last Hindu state, I would have made it an option for voting, but I lack RoI, so it isn't)

12. Mauretania
Leader: Imalicus Guntzamundu Reparatus the Chaste
Culture: African Romance
Religion: Nicene
Description:
Mauretania has seen rough days, since when Pompeius the Monk was sacrificed by Frisian raiders, the majority of African existence was spent as vassals to the great Westliklân. Then under Urbanus the Pious, Valerius the Brave, and Guntzamundu the Chaste, Mauretania began to restore itself to power.

13. Pontus
Leader: King Konstantinos Heraclious III
Culture: Pontic
Religion: Nicene
Description:
Pontus was truly the greatest loss felt by the Roman Empire. This great Kingdom, fostering decades of poor overlordship by Rome, finally declared its independence during the Succession Wars. Now, Pontus has enjoyed over a hundred years of sustained peace, with only minor wars to protect Nicene interests in Coloneia and the Ecumenical Patriarchate in Crimea.

14. Chubnan
Leader: Þao Argishti Chubnan
Culture: Hepthalite
Religion: Hepthalism
Description:
There came a time when peace was felt in India, when it seemed that the Great Hordes, save for Hunas and Rai, were finally vanquished. Then came the Chubnan. Former vassals under the Hepthalite Emperors themselves, the Chubnan quickly began restoring Hepthalite power, and Hepthalite fear throughout the Indians. Rumors spread through the subcontinent, tales that he plans to declare himself Rajadhiraja, or that they already had. Regardless, the Chubnan Horde marks the beginning of a new, Hepthalite age, like those days of terror over a hundred years before.

15. Immortals
Leader: Grandmaster Tuhan Virtanen
Culture: Old Slavic
Religion: Zoroastrian
Description:
The Immortals are all that remains from the Sassanid Era, a relic of a paradise lost. Ruling from their island fortress of Bahrein, the Immortal soldiers have actually managed to consistently defeat the Caliphate at every turn. Should this trend continue, all of Arabia might swear fealty to the mighty Immortals.

16. Anglecynn
Leader: Cynning Osbeorn Osbeornsson Wehhing
Culture: Anglo-Saxon
Religion: Reformed Germanic
Description:
The might of the Saxon was shown through the vows to destroy the Frisians. Hunting them down as far as possible, Westliklân was purged from Spain, Scotland, Ireland, and Britain, in a ceaseless hunt to exterminate the Saxon's greatest foes. Now, the Saxons, not willing to become their enemy, have divided their realm into 3 kingdoms, Ireland, Scotland, and Anglecynn, all of which prepared to fight the Frisian wherever they make their home.

17. Abarshahr
Leader: Þao Aturpat Aybatid the Cruel
Culture: Xionite
Religion: Zoroastrian
Description:
The Xionites, slowly cut off from India by the Caliphate, reverted back to Zoroastrian practices. Though it was temporarily converted to Islam under Fravarti Aybatid, he was later captured and blinded, a shame, considering he was known for his perceptiveness.

18. Haemimontus
Leader: King Vaduela Scirii II
Culture: Helleno-Thracian
Religion: Nicene
Description:
This distant branch of the Skirian line can hardly be considered a true part of their Germanic cousins anymore. This branch, now rulers of a powerful Helleno-Thracian Kingdom, are a powerful buffer against Avar aggressions. Now, with the Khaganate failing, all of Dacia may fall victim to Thracian aggression.

19. Donau
Leader: Khönij Buchard Engibald
Culture: Thuringian
Religion: Old Germanic
Description:
Like Haemimontus, the Kingdom of Donau is a far cry from its distant Frisian ancestors. Marking the furthest conquests of the Westliklân, the Dukes of Donau eventually rose to Kingship, marking one of the most powerful Old Germanic nations. Also like Haemimontus, Donau is expected to be part of the feast that will come with the fall of the Avars.

20. Kidara (Shahdom of Persia)
Leader: Shah Khodadad Godarzzade Kidara
Culture: Persian
Religion: Zoroastrian
Description:
The surviving lands of the Kidarites is a distant relic of its old greatness. Shah Khodadad, educated to be indistinguishable from the Sassanids before, holds a mockery of the Kidarite Kingdom, instead using Persia as his main title. To the north of him lives his twin brother, a Xionite named Ahmad, ruler of Kushanshahr. Now, reactionary forces in Kushahnshahr hope to restore it to a proper, Hepthalism worshipping Kidarite Kingdom, and urge the young Kings to fight to control the 3 Kingdoms, lest Islam consume them all.

Religions:
Nicene:
Leader: Pope Athanasios
Authority: 70.9
Size: 317
Description:
The Nicene Church, after many long years of darkness, is finally being restored to strength. Under the reign of Westliklân, it seemed christianity was doomed, this was even before the Apollinarians took Italy. After that, the last of the faithful prepared for the worst. But it didn't come. Miraculously, the Frisians fragmented, and many of their successors were Nicene! What more, the Kingdoms of Two Italies appeared to be content to live with the lands in their namesake. Now, the Nicene church is prepared to to stamp out the heretics, and reestablish its place on the world stage.

Zoroastrian:
Leader: Mobadan-Mobad Rostam
Authority: 60.1
Size: 177
Description:
Much like the Nicene church, Zoroastrianism almost failed. The Hepthalites had seized Persia, and the Arabian Trifecta (Taghlibid, Lakhmid, Ghassanid) would not stop fighting, leaving the weaker Zoroastrian states vulnerable to Axumite conquest. Then came the Rus. Zoroastrians had somehow converted the King of Rus to convert to their religion, and the faith was saved. It spread like wildfire, with almost all of Germany and Russia converting, led by the two mighty lands of Rus, and the now dead Empire of Jhossrik. What more, many of the Kirdarite lords have converted to Zoroastrianism, and the Immortals continue their endless fight against the infidel.

Hepthalism:
Leader: N/A
Authority: 32.0
Size: 134
Description:
The Hepthalites may be gone, but their syncretic religion still survives, dominating all of Persia and Northern India. This religion, among the Indians, showed weakness and cowardice to the Hordes, willing to give up their faith to save their lives. Now, Zoroastrians and Muslims have reclaimed Persia, and the last Hepthalite lords in the Steppes are beginning to convert. What more, the Kandabanda in India have already converted to Tantrism, the now orthodox school of Hinduism.

Reformed Germanic:
Leader: High Priest Liscus Gozbing
Authority: 57.6
Size: 124
Description:
When the Franks had completed their conquest of Scandinavia, the mighty King Peppin the Great sought to bring all the various cultural priests and traditions under Frankish rule. And so, his tribal faith was organized into a codified religion. This move was controversial among many, and the resulting Reformation Wars left Germany shattered. What more, it allowed the Zoroastrians to once again regain a foothold in Central Germany. Though the Frisians and Franks and Saxons were quick to convert, the rest did not want to give up their independence to some foreign priest.

Slavic Paganism:
Leader: N/A
Authority: 0.0
Size: 87
Description:
The Slavic beliefs and traditions, unlike the Germanic, are unreformed. Yet, it is one of the largest growing religions in the world. Following the rise of Zoroastrianism in Rus, the pagan lords fled their new, powerful neighbor, spreading their faith into Carpathia, Scandinvavia, and even India. Now, the Slavs continue to flee their ancient enemies, the Zoroastrians, while all eyes lay on the great Godogost, who plans to drive the Zoroastrians out of Germany forever.
 
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Well, hello nice WtWSMS little world! I vote for: The Oriental Empire! Will comment on it in the beta forum.
 
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I have to cast my vote for the Empire of the Orient as well, though it is in hopes of it being something like a crusader state, with that mixture of east and west, rather than yet another Roman legacy AAR.
 

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I'd have to cast my vote for Britain: Will you repel the Anglo-Saxons as a nation such as Ireland? Or will you subjugate all Britannia under Amglo-Saxon rule?
 
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I have to cast my vote for the Empire of the Orient as well, though it is in hopes of it being something like a crusader state, with that mixture of east and west, rather than yet another Roman legacy AAR.

Yeah, if I play the Oriens, I will probably drift away from Damianos III's goal as a claimant to the Roman Empire, and instead try to establish a new Oriental identity, and carve a new Empire out of the Caliphate. I would like to point out that the Oriens, though protected from Islam by a series of buffer states, may potentially lose Iudea to Thiaderd Thiaderdsoan Helibad III, a Frisian adventurer whose became landless when his father, Thiaderd II was dethroned from his Duchy in Iiko (Modern Anjou), and sacrificed by the King of Bidlerslân. What more, Hebron is about to be captured by peasant rebels under a Jew named Eli.

I see Rai as a constant struggle between Vedic and Hepthalite traditions, and a struggle to persist the legacy of the original Raidhan Rai.

Westliklan is by far the hardest of all the options, with restoring the Empire a near impossibility, but, even if it isn't picked, I might play it privately simply to see if I can succeed.

Raydan is a curious one, with all the different religions around it, and the Galatian one is also would be very hard.
 
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I'd have to cast my vote for Britain: Will you repel the Anglo-Saxons as a nation such as Ireland? Or will you subjugate all Britannia under Amglo-Saxon rule?

Errr, I don't think Britain is an option.

What more, Ireland, Scotland, and England are all Anglo-Saxon kingdoms ruled by 3 brothers.
 

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Casting vote for Raydan
 

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Frisia, for defense of budding Christendom!
Failing that, Mauritania because African Romance seems like a really cool culture.

Neither of these are options, unless you are referring to Westliklân. The options are:

Westliklân
Oriental Empire
Raydan
Rai
Charsianon
 

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On a second note for the Oriental fans, the Scholae Palatinae came under Oriental vassalship during the Succession Wars.
Well, I like the idea of the Oriental Empire due to, well... it being oriental and a good possibiity for crusader kind of relations with the Arabs.
 

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Oriental Empire
 

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I will vote for the Oriental Empire, since I see very little chance that you will be able to restore Galatia.

Now I want to see Antioch as capital, of an Empire that encompasses Armenia, Syria, Babylonia, Egypt and Assyria!

(Enlil, please clear your mailbox)
 
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At the risk of sounding unoriginal, I vote for the Oriental Empire
 

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Seeing as everyone is voting for it, I'll vote for the Oriental Empire as well.