Last days of hoi

[Durruti (A)]

I'm getting ever more sentimental, leaving old battered hoi behind... coming to a point really where I look back upon the endless hours staring blankly at the vnet screen, or being thrown to desktop during deceisive battles or cursing cheesy exploits... as the good old days I'm sure i'm not alone in this. I think it's suitable posting the first verse of TS Eliot's wierd and wonderful poem "the hollow men". an ode to hoi and hoi 2 "death's other kingdom"




"the hollow men" - TS Eliot

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

 

[gzav]

Last days? Never, HoI will live forever!

 

[Vissarion]

Yeah, it stinks to leave the mothership for a little rescue raft right away.

 

[HJ Tulp]

As I see it HoI I and II are quite different games. Movement=attack and all that

 

[unmerged(17162)]

I just started a new game, plus I haven't tried CORE yet so I will be playing HOI for a while. Plus I never buy a game when first comes out.

 

[Slyguy3129]

I'm going to buy HoI2 as so as I save up the 50 $. I will always play HoI1, there something I don't like about HoI1 and some things I do, I'm sure there will that will be the case for HoI2. If it is possible for someone to mod in the way you use aircraft to attack ie, the attack from Feb the 12,39 to March the 16,39 during the day only. That I like, makes it easier to work with your air units. That right now sadly is the only thing I understand about HoI2, everyone is saying aw its so easy.....I haven't won in it yet. I guess I'll keep trying. Hoi2 will be a fresh new challange, and though it won't be a HoI1, that in its self is what will keep HoI1 alive on my computer. Maybe have a intergrating GC between them

 

[unmerged(17501)]

I'll drop HoI like a hot, rotten potato if HoI2 doesn't have the atrocious Low-Infrastructure killing of soldiers.

 

[Kyril]

, brought a tear to my eye...

To HOI

Was it for this you came into the light?
Have you fulfilled Life's mission? You are free
For ever from patches and misery,
Yet those who replaced you, to their great delight,
Thought doubtless they were only doing right
In programming to encompass your decease,
Forgetting they were bringing you to peace
And perfect joy and everlasting night.
Your course is ended here - I know not why
You seemed bugged, a pernicious creature;
Full of inbalances and exploits, yet we couldn't let go of yer,
And so we mocked your humble destiny -
Yet life was merry, was it not, oh Hearts of Iron?
It must have been to a game so timeconsuming and inspiring.

(free to the poem by William Eric Berridge, which was found on a piece of wire in a communication trench, 04.45 a.m., April 1916. William died of wounds, 20th August, Delville Wood).

 

[jdrou]

Last days? Never, HoI will live forever!

You'll be here with the fanatical holdouts like the ones in the EU1 forum. If I were you I'd look for a second job like Carolus.

 

[Permanganate]

I'll drop HoI like a hot, rotten potato if HoI2 doesn't have the atrocious Low-Infrastructure killing of soldiers.

It does for winter provinces - which you can see in the demo - but at least it tells you exactly what it's going to lose this week and it's orders of magnitude less severe than in HoI1. Perhaps the low-infra attrition will also be less severe.

 

[Alves]

To Continue

o I THINK HOI1 WILL BE STILL PLAYED BECUZ NOT EVERYONE LIKES NEW THINGS. SINCE ITS ALREADY OLD WE KNOW THAT IT WORKS RIGHT BUT HOI2 BRAND NEW. WE DONT KNO IF IT WONT WORK OR WILL DEMAND MACHINES WITH BETTER SPECS, AT LEAST WE KNO THAT HOI1 IS ALWAYS HERE FOR US!!

 

[Maladict]

o I THINK HOI1 WILL BE STILL PLAYED BECUZ NOT EVERYONE LIKES NEW THINGS. SINCE ITS ALREADY OLD WE KNOW THAT IT WORKS RIGHT BUT HOI2 BRAND NEW. WE DONT KNO IF IT WONT WORK OR WILL DEMAND MACHINES WITH BETTER SPECS, AT LEAST WE KNO THAT HOI1 IS ALWAYS HERE FOR US!!

 

[gzav]

o I THINK HOI1 WILL BE STILL PLAYED BECUZ NOT EVERYONE LIKES NEW THINGS. SINCE ITS ALREADY OLD WE KNOW THAT IT WORKS RIGHT BUT HOI2 BRAND NEW. WE DONT KNO IF IT WONT WORK OR WILL DEMAND MACHINES WITH BETTER SPECS, AT LEAST WE KNO THAT HOI1 IS ALWAYS HERE FOR US!!

What Maladict said, using caps is considered shouting in an internet forum, please don't do it

 

[labalag]

Last days? Never, HoI will live forever!

You're right, it'll live forever.

Atleast till february the 25th when Gamemania has it in their stores ( and maybe even longer as I still have a crappy computer)

But I know I'll still be playing HOI in a few years...


and BTW Alves, do you want a free banning or something, cause you're getting close to it...

 

[Maladict]

cant u ppl shut for once and listen then u will let others talk how they WANT!!
yo maladict u know wut? MIND UR OWN BUSINESS AND SHUT THE f*** UP!!
oh plz the moderator has sumthing against me! its like hes racist!!

Well, at least you've turned your caps lock off

 

[Permanganate]

yo maladict u know wut? MIND UR OWN BUSINESS AND SHUT THE f*** UP!!

Five months, six posts, zero correct spelling and grammar, eight years old.

Back on topic: no I don't think that I'll play HoI1 much after HoI2 comes out. I've already stopped playing, in fact; haven't played at all in almost a month. I figured I could bug the next person around here going on a business trip to NA to pick a copy up for me, or just get one off eBay, but I guess it'll be a long wait...my last game was a World Conquest as Nationalist China, which just shows you how bored I was getting towards the end.

 

[gzav]

cant u ppl shut for once and listen then u will let others talk how they WANT!!
yo maladict u know wut? MIND UR OWN BUSINESS AND SHUT THE f*** UP!!
oh plz the moderator has sumthing against me! its like hes racist!!

No, you won't talk how you want...and you sure as hell won't insult anyone else in this forum. There are certain rules to follow in this forum, i suggest you follow them or your stay here won't be long. The next time i have to act because of you, it'll be a warning for you.

And if you have anything to say about my moderating abilities, feel free to send me a PM or write an email to the admins...

gzav - HoI mod

 

[Pro_Consul]

I wonder, Gzav, how you could manage to be a racist without knowing what race anyone belongs to. Neat trick that. Maybe you can tell by the infantile ranting, poor spelling and otherwise childish behavior that Alves is one of those AIs you so like to pick on. If so, I think I will stop sticking up for AIs. They are (apparently) too mad to warrant it. :wacko:

Back on topic:
I don't see myself dropping HoI1 for quite some while yet. Aside from the fact that I never pick up a new game until it has been patched at least once or twice, even once I do get HoI2 that will still only make a grand total of two, count 'em TWO, computer wargames in my inventory that truly merit the title. I expect, based on what I saw in the HoI2 demo, that the differences in the game will make me keep both installed, in the same way that I alternate between vanilla HoI and CORE.

 

[Permanganate]

...in the same way that I alternate between vanilla HoI and CORE.

Why, incidentally? As soon as I got over that I couldn't have Panther IIs by 1940, and the scary-looking naval tree, I dropped vanilla like a hot potato and haven't played it since except when I want Gotterdammerung. Is there still something you like about it?

 

[Pro_Consul]

Why, incidentally? As soon as I got over that I couldn't have Panther IIs by 1940, and the scary-looking naval tree, I dropped vanilla like a hot potato and haven't played it since except when I want Gotterdammerung. Is there still something you like about it?

Several things:

1. As you mentioned, it has latter-day war scenarios like Gotterdammerung, for when I want I short, sharp and intense game.

2. The simplified tech trees are easier to deal with when playing a minor, except for the lack of tankettes.

3. The vastly smaller events files make the game run much more smoothly. Again, this is particularly beneficial when playing a minor that isn't going to get these events anyway.

4. Vanilla runs much more smoothly in the later years, again particularly when playing a minor. When playing a major belligerent this is not such a big deal, since my conquests will lower the number of major powers and thus ease the load on the 'puter. But when playing a peewee nation, all or almost all of the majors last the entire game, and this starts to bog everything down the longer the game runs. By mid 1945 the "extremely fast" setting is about the same speed as the "fast" setting was at game start, or even slower.

5. When I want to really romp, which is rare but not unheard of, the faster developing tech tree in vanilla makes it possible to crank up the difficulty and still be able to have very high tech well before the end of the game. For example, as the USA I can have nuclear powered naval vessels by early '46 on a high difficulty level. In CORE you can't get nuclear ships at all, because the necessary nuke tech is set to an unreachable project time length.

On the other hand, when I want a real challenge playing a country like the USA or USSR, CORE is the goods. So I don't even give a thought to playing such a game in vanilla.