Land Doctrines upgrades (and naval, too)

[unmerged(41207)]

Everyone complains about the late-game German doctrines. I have a two suggestions:

1. Let the Blitzkrieg player automatically have access to some or all of the Firepower Focus doctrines after they go through their whole list. Some of the doctrines are not logically exclusive. In fact, if you could argue that modern armies, especially the US Army blends many doctrines. E.g.: the recent war in Iraq.

2. Allow generals to add to ORG and/or MOR dependent on their level. E.g.: General Guderian Level 6 gives +6% ORG and +6% MOR or even +6%/+12%. Maybe only if they are with an HQ unit. This could apply to naval and even air leaders.

 

[unmerged(55467)]

They just got an update, you're a bit late.

 

[unmerged(41207)]

Gee, I didn't know that.

I see you are a very constructive person who wants to contribute ideas or share experiences.

 

[unmerged(55467)]

Oh, I'm sorry.

OK, how about this:

That would make Germany's soldiers invincible.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

1. Let the Blitzkrieg player automatically have access to some or all of the Firepower Focus doctrines after they go through their whole list. Some

Why not just go straight to giving blitzkrieg doctrine:
+ 100000000 Soft Attack to land units
+ 100000000 Hard Attack to land units
+ 100000000 Org to land units
+ 100000000 Morale to land units

 

[unmerged(41207)]

It wouldn't have to apply only to Germany, but they would benefit most. Plus, the second suggestion would definitely help in an intuitively valid way in the Germany / USSR game balance in multiplayer.

 

[unmerged(41207)]

Nikk would be right about letting all the techs open up, but what about one or two, such as the last two choices? It would make more sense to have some of that integrated rather than just have new "super blizkrieg of 1947." And however many there are to be researched, it would still take time. The German player especially has to make strategic choices in what to research.

Anyhow, rather than merely mocking my suggestions, why don't you come up with a better one or send a link to an earlier suggestion you like in the forum.

I guess this abuse is my punishment for not completing my work before logging on.

 

[egslim]

Some of the doctrines are not logically exclusive.

Neither are the effects. For example, Superior Firepower ends up with a org/mor of 100/90, Blitzkrieg with 105/80. If we ignore the combat events, those two are pretty much even.

And however many there are to be researched, it would still take time. The German player especially has to make strategic choices in what to research.

Research time is very cheap for the German player. You do have to make choices, but not too many compared to most countries

 

[Panzerotto]

Neither are the effects. For example, Superior Firepower ends up with a org/mor of 100/90, Blitzkrieg with 105/80. If we ignore the combat events, those two are pretty much even.

Are those values for HoI2 or for DD? Do they include the new techs?

 

[egslim]

Those are for DD with the 1.2 techs, choosing "Modern Blitzkrieg" for Germany instead of "Volksturm".

In Vanilla HOI2 the figures are 90/80 and 100/80 for US and Germany respectively.

 

[unmerged(45706)]

Why not just go straight to giving blitzkrieg doctrine:
+ 100000000 Soft Attack to land units
+ 100000000 Hard Attack to land units
+ 100000000 Org to land units
+ 100000000 Morale to land units

Naah..., not enough....

 

[NikkTheTrick]

Naah..., not enough....

OMG! When USSR, USA and UK armies all entrenched in a level 10 fort urban province and I attacked them with 1 armor I was defeated. Blitzkrieg is underpowered. Germany needs 342e98 more doctrines!

 

[unmerged(51002)]

lol ur rite cos the germanz wer so gud they one the war

Oh, wait...

 

[Panzerotto]

where are you when they cry about the underpowerd CVs and overpowerd naval bombers?

 

[NikkTheTrick]

where are you when they cry about the underpowerd CVs and overpowerd naval bombers?

Drunk as %$#@ lying in my own.... oh wait, that's too much details o
Overpowered naval bombers (especialy in cases when a 100-bomber wing recieves almost no damage from a 15-CV (with more than 300 places) stack is a serious issue however. Also, I would not call CV stacks "underpowered"
CVs should be much better against NAVs and have some CV-only stacking penalty to stop uberstacking them.