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I wouldn't be surprised if you successfully united Ameriga under your watchful gaze, but whether it takes bloodshed or ends up peaceful is still to be seen.

Amazonie may or may not be Super Brazil - it is certainly ahead of its OTL counterpart in technology and literacy, but a little behind in population. The Amerigan Federation option might change this, but to my understanding, it's also available to Lotharingia, so that's worth noting.

Well Amazonie has a better chance at forming the Federation because of an extra decision that gives them cores whereas Lotharingia needs to go the hard way (I should add sth for them one day).
It all depends on the immigration in the end and also on the result of the whole Colombian issue. You don't have the same playthrough as Amazonia when Spain wins, Gran Colombia stays united or Granada ends independent.
 

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Extract from “The Early years of the Fédération: Amazonie, Atlantia, Lotharingia, Equinoxea and Guiana.”
ANSELME, P., 1996, Saxi-Bourdon University Press

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Battle for Fort Lothére

[...]De Aigle was forced into the table in Fort Lothére in a very uncomfortable situation. Many (Friedrich, Junkers, Calderas, Beaumont) wonder why President Cartier didn’t make a move for the formation of a united Amerigan nation then and there. I side with Calderas (1991). Port Liberté Enjoyed control over the immediate South Atlantic, and Fort Lothére was already down to its knees. Bureaucrats, politicians and military advisors were already collecting the spoils of war, Lotharingia would have part of its population "freed".

The peace deal was harsh on the losing side, understandably. Lotharingia had to part ways with the states of Nouvelle Alsace (The already important town of Saxi Bourdon and the port of Saint Marie la Blanche) and Libreville (the small towns and properties proved fertile ground for Amazónian Industry in Parigny les Vaux and Libreville Proper). That granted to the Amazonians access to the Paraná River through the Tiété and Grand Rivers. (Friedrich, 1985)

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Southern borders redrawn: more control over the atlantic maritime routes, access to navigable sections of the Argentine Basin.
Also troops being built.

Calderas goes so far as to argue that, as occupation of many strategic points by the Amazonians happened, that was already the “geographical basis” of how the Fédération would structure itself, years later: in fact, for a brief period, between complete subjugation and capitulation from Fort Lothére, both nations were under the same government. Neither president De Aigle or Cartier, nor their foreign ministers at the time could know it, as it often is the case in international politics, but the Federation was born then and there, in the plane of ideas. It is worth mentioning: it is reported (de Alençon, 1991, Junkers, 1983) that soldiers from the frontline would often come home with this idea of a unified nation. A similar effect to what happened during the German Wars, to the elbian and danubian germanic peoples. (Lacroix, 1936)

Another heated debate over the foundations of the federation are the acquisitions of Atlantia (1825) and Pará (1838) by Amazonie. Again, Calderas (1991) provides an insightful analysis. First, the parallels. Both were in turmoil due to instability in their respective “mother” countries (the first, Lotharingia during De Aigle’s ascension, the latter Gran Colombia during their bloody war with Spain). Both were dubiously “accepted” into the Fédération on pretext of defense of their citizens. Both caused international discomfort due to the perceived expansionist aggressiveness of the Fédération (then Amazonian Federation). Editorial and charges at the time were particularly hilarious.

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The province of Para, northern margin of the Amazonas: the borders in the region would still be contested in the future.

How much exactly Para - a Guianan colony as much as original Equinoxea - identifies as Hispano-Amerigan and Atlantia - a cosmopolitan center with influences from both Lotharingians, Amazonians and many others - identifies with my lotharingian brethren is, as usual, open for discussion (for a better, detailed debate on the subject, see Cardozo et al, 1995). The question is the means through which those places were annexed to the federation and the reasons why politicians took the decisions. The defense of Amazonian interests were intermingled with the rhetoric of defending the people from those regions from the situation of their mother countries.

To Calderas those arguments are true, as this was the Fédération’s first act of “justified expansionism”, as he puts it brilliantly himself. This was the seed of the mission of civilization and protection of Amerigan values. Even analysis of classical authors of the late 1890s (Beaumont, 1954 about Orhan, 1889) often point out to this, at the time fairly fresh, “impetus” that the federation gained through the defense of their perceived values. There are those who laugh while arguing that all of this spirit of freedom was born from the mind of an imbecile, however, as it was first "used" by someone not quite liked.

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President Armagnot, elected after the war, was special.


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I wouldn't be surprised if you successfully united Ameriga under your watchful gaze, but whether it takes bloodshed or ends up peaceful is still to be seen.

Amazonie may or may not be Super Brazil - it is certainly ahead of its OTL counterpart in technology and literacy, but a little behind in population. The Amerigan Federation option might change this, but to my understanding, it's also available to Lotharingia, so that's worth noting.

Well, as Attalus said, Amazonie has an easier time than Lotharingia. I'm curious as to how would be Super Brazil's football team. :D


Ooh, this is gonna be fun. Vive Ameriga!

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ellected after the war
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Look at the good side. If your country gets any bad press from historical expansionism in a century, you can always push the blame on the lunatic like any normal politician would.
 

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Look at the good side. If your country gets any bad press from historical expansionism in a century, you can always push the blame on the lunatic like any normal politician would.

Typo fixed, thanks.

And, he who never blamed the guy that worked in your position before you, throw the first rock. :p
 

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Typo fixed, thanks.

And, he who never blamed the guy that worked in your position before you, throw the first rock. :p

I like your writing; From a gameplay POV you must have quite the infamy. Invading Para adds some (5 I think ?) and getting two new states would give you 22... Since the war dragged on you could do it but it still limits your options for the next few years. Next years will be consolidation of the state and large immigration (a shame you don't have the last version, I've seen Amazonie grab 5000 immigrants after the Great Irish Famine was left unchecked and the Glorious Revolution was crushed :p ).

Also I hope Spain wins, just to annoy you for the "liberation of Granada". Viva el Rey, viva Espana !
 

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I like your writing; From a gameplay POV you must have quite the infamy. Invading Para adds some (5 I think ?) and getting two new states would give you 22... Since the war dragged on you could do it but it still limits your options for the next few years. Next years will be consolidation of the state and large immigration (a shame you don't have the last version, I've seen Amazonie grab 5000 immigrants after the Great Irish Famine was left unchecked and the Glorious Revolution was crushed :p ).

Also I hope Spain wins, just to annoy you for the "liberation of Granada". Viva el Rey, viva Espana !

Strangely, immigrants are never lacking. GC, the Sevenmen and even Plantagenia manage to steal a whole lot of them, though. But, hell, 5k start coming (from the east) only late in the game. I want my 5k irishmen early game to work in the factories. D:
Well, the war began early, and the Pará decision also appeared early. Since the war dragged on forever including, but not limited to, a bankruptcy, I had quite a while to prepare/plan my infamy. I sometimes forget how hard it is to keep a budget (and not implode to rebels nor kill the industry) with Amerigan/South American nations early in the game.

And, yeah, Spain. El Rey. GRRRR
 

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Strangely, immigrants are never lacking. GC, the Sevenmen and even Plantagenia manage to steal a whole lot of them, though. But, hell, 5k start coming (from the east) only late in the game. I want my 5k irishmen early game to work in the factories. D:
Well, the war began early, and the Pará decision also appeared early. Since the war dragged on forever including, but not limited to, a bankruptcy, I had quite a while to prepare/plan my infamy. I sometimes forget how hard it is to keep a budget (and not implode to rebels nor kill the industry) with Amerigan/South American nations early in the game.

And, yeah, Spain. El Rey. GRRRR
You can easily take the Treaty of Habana decisions/events if Spain wins :p
 

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Well, I believe it is now safe to assume that (aside of possible Spanish Granada) your position in Ameriga is pretty much uncontested - I doubt the Incas will manage to race you.
 

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2. Fog of war

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Fog, subtropical forest, hill, romantic bucolism

Henri took a sip of coffee, then shivered at the stab of pain in the chest. Antoine laughed for a second, but then shivered aswell, presumably for the same reason. They found this particular farm, the last in the road to Saxi Bourdon before the hills opened up. Their little scouting detachment found this farm under siege by some Lotharingian soldiers, resisting their own countrymen. As it seems, they didn’t like the idea of burning their own tiny crops and running to the city.

“Oh, that was funny? I’ll kill you myself once I’m able to walk properly”

“Marie will hit you if she sees you trying to get up, fool.”

Antoine was a stubby guy, with an unshaven face and bright blue eyes. His torn uniform and the bloody marks where the bayonets kissed him just made him look even less civilized. A staunch ally in the battlefield and a pleasant company overall.

“The battle in Bourdon should be happening right now.” He said bleakly. They could hear the rain outside and the cold winds flowing through the open window. Here in the south the climate was colder than in Amazónie, but the humidity was almost the same. Looking outside they could see the jungle closing in the dirt road, leading to the main road. This was a relatively small property, but still quite big. Enough to appear on a map, the cartographer judged.

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The road is a bit too wide.

Henri gathered his dignity and straightened up painfully in his bed. His bright blonde hair grew since he left his town, but now he had access to a razor. He could at least shave his beard and pretend he was not a barbarian. His glasses miraculously made it through the various violent encounters intact, so his brown eyes didn’t stupidly try to focus things from a distance. “All we know is that General Florent has reached the highlands. Everything else is speculation.”

“specu-you, pompous bastard.”

“yea, you come and get me uneducated pig.”

“when I stand up I’ll force my dumb rifle up your filthy-“

“You kiss your mother with that mouth?” The woman appeared through the door, frowning. A tall woman with light brown hair and green eyes in her twenties. A beautiful light brown hair that smelled of flowers. Everything here in this bucolic place seemed to smell like flowers, even the horse dung. This big wooden house kept their guest room in the second floor so they had quite a view of the misty property and the wind brought all kinds of tropical smells. Right now it smelled like earthy rain.

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Ye olde house.

The walls weren’t really white anymore because of the climate and it was clear that, to keep the rooms that tidy and clean from bugs, it demanded hard work. Every now and then the amazonian saw a spider leaving some crack in the walls and going on its merry way outside where there was food. And yet there was some magic. Everything appeared to make this woman even more attractive, her rugged clothes, the way she moved to grab water from the well, it all gave her this exotic feel that made Henri burn inside.

“I’m sorry ma’am.” Antoine flushed. He wasn’t shy with women but sometimes that happened. “that fool was trying to drink his coffee but his ribs won’t let him.”

She had some difficulty in translating his heavily accented Amazonian dialect. Lotharingian descended from Burgundian walloon-bourguignon french, while Amazonian came from Parisian French with a touch of Breton here and there. Communication was relatively easy, but sometimes things got confusing. The stubby man made it all worse as he was from Equinoxea, deep into the jungle. What he called Amazonian French Henri called Tupi with some vaguely latin-resembling words. To be fair that’s what a metropolitan French called his own dialect once.

“hm, then sit straight, I’ll have Pauline or Adrienne stay close to help you with that.”

Pauline was a young slave girl, 11 or 12 years old, Adrienne her mother, about his age with bright dark brown eyes. This family was relatively poor, but they had their household slaves. Such practices were common in Amazonie and Lotharingia alike. The more Henri knew about the dufleuve (how some amazonians called lotharians, sometimes they were "sud"), the more he realized how they were the same people.

“I like Pauline. She’s such an adorable little girl.” Henri really wanted some subject to talk to that beautiful woman, Marie. He could die right now if the only thing he could remember was that delicious flower smell. Back in Europe his colleagues called him a fool for women. Maybe they were right.

“Are you trying to mock my accent, mister?” that took him a while to understand “because I really do not appreciate that.”

“No, really, I’m sorry. I just pick up on those things really quickly.”

“Oh yes”, Antoine was quick, “when I knew this fellow I thought he was a metropolitan traitor fresh off the boat. Turns out he could very well be a traitor, but his accent is just foolishness.” He then started what would be loud laughter, but recoiled from pain. The woman’s stare, however, made it clear that she didn’t really trust what they said. “I swear on my beloved snake ridden land back in Equinoxea.”

She kept staring at them for a moment, then shrugged, “you northerners are weird.” She concluded. “You need help with that rib, I assume.”

Henri skipped a beat. “Yes!” Perhaps a little too abruptly, “yes, it hurts a lot when I move.”

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Exotic araucaria, fog, sunset, you get the picture.

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The beauty of Ameriga...
Just a small thing to remember the Equinoxian have abolished slavery so if Henri comes from there he is not gonna think they are alike because of that :p

And I like you remembered the breton touch, you can add Gascon to the list too. ;)
 

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The beauty of Ameriga...
Just a small thing to remember the Equinoxian have abolished slavery so if Henri comes from there he is not gonna think they are alike because of that :p

And I like you remembered the breton touch, you can add Gascon to the list too. ;)

Maybe Henri is a renegade Equinoxean? Also as always, Equinoxea as a name is like 1000% more cool than Ecuador. I think the rule of cool has been quite underappreciated throughout the human history (like "Mehmed, you just can't destroy the Byzantine Empire!" "What?" "Yeah, because they are the Byzantines. They are, like, well cooler than you will ever be." "Hm, makes sense.")
 
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