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Judging from a post in the quick questions thread earlier today, it seems that I may have hit a known bug, where you can't sell provinces that you can't core. on the other hand, Ferrarra was not overland, so I should have been able to core it, had I wanted to. You may be right, then. I should have waited, but I wanted to get the OE down ASAP, along with some AE.I'm not quiet sure about Brabant but waiting might get you the Claim Throne CB. Regarding Ferrara you dont need to release them. Mailand or Modena will take it as soon as they have cored the provinces you just fed them. They just wont accept it as long as they are overextended.
OMG. You are absolutely correct.24 still is enough time to produce an heir, I think. Claiming the throne is probably an unnecesary hit on the relations(unless you want the alliance down ofc.)
If it isn't, wouldn't the new guy (from your dyansty) have no heir? Because then you can just claim the throne anyway, and use the cb.
And in chapter 16 brabant was of valois blood, but now it isn't. What happened in the mean time? (I think you missed an uportunity to force a pu there)
I haven't found any pattern in the claim throne effects, sometimes it gives a pu, sometimes it just gives dyansty, and sometimes it doens't change anything at all(this is for people without heirs), but I don't know what happens when.OMG. You are absolutely correct.
See, that's why I asked, because I keep s***ing these things up. For the record, let's see if I get it straight. My neighbour is of my dynasty. I use the diplo action "claim throne". If he dies without heir, I get them in a PU, at the cost of a relations hit with everyone else I have a RM with, or I get in a succession war with another claimant.
What if he does get an heir of my bloodline? The diplo action gets shelved? Do I lose the claim or does it just skip a generation?
edit: I know there was some trouble with rebels, so I think he got jumped by a pretender.
I think I will try a couple of "practice runs" in standard games first, because I similarly don't understand why sometimes your RM dies with your current king and sometimes it doesn't. I don't think there is anyone who truly understands.I haven't found any pattern in the claim throne effects, sometimes it gives a pu, sometimes it just gives dyansty, and sometimes it doens't change anything at all(this is for people without heirs), but I don't know what happens when.
If you claim a throne, I don't think a succesion war is possible(with someone who didn't claim, but I haven't seen the ai ever claim a throne)
If you claim a throne and he gets an heir, the claim simply vanishes. I have no idea what happens if he gets an heir with a weak claim(since you can also claim throne on them).
I do know that claiming the throne of a weak hier only gives the cb(with same dynasty), but doens't actually change what happens on death of monarchI think I will try a couple of "practice runs" in standard games first, because I similarly don't understand why sometimes your RM dies with your current king and sometimes it doesn't. I don't think there is anyone who truly understands.
edit: I do know that prestige matters in terms of PU, so maybe it counts for claiming a throne of a weak heir as well.
In case of multiple rms then country with the mpst prestige wins out.Royal Marriage test.
As Brandenburg, I closed a RM with Denmark.
Denmark had only “noble succeeds”.
I claim the throne, tag switch and kill the king. A Von Hohenzollern became the new king.
Upon tag switching back to Brandenburg, I lost the claim. Why? I suspect that my being a player has something to do with it.
Reload as Brandenburg.
Used the console to give Brandenburg 29 prestige, enough to overcome Denmark’s prestige.
Denmark had also closed a RM with Lithuania. Now a noble from house Jagiellon succeeds. Why? Is it a matter of relations? I married them first, so it’s not a matter of seniority. Maybe they had more prestige than me?
Claimed Denmark’s throne again.
This time I got a “claim throne” CB. The tooltip said a noble of my house would succeed to the Danish throne. Why? The diplo action’s tooltip said: “if the king dies without an heir, this will result in a personal union”. That is not what will happen, according to the tooltip.
Killed Denmark’s queen without tag switching, who had no heir and less prestige than me.
Lost the claim again, but not the CB.
This is so confusing, since you only get “lost the claim”, but not why you lost the claim.
Clearly, there is a third factor involved beyond prestige and heirdom, but what? relations? I don't have a clue.
edited to add: It might be diplomatic reputation, right?
Aragon had 2 provinces in central Italy, so we might collide at some point. Thankfully, they have lost Napels a long time ago. The only one having any claims on them right now, is France, until 1561 I believe. If they want to have some fun, let them come!Great update, looking forward to seeing how long it takes for Spain to attempt to wrest back control of Galicia. Will their rivalry with you take them overseas to the Italian peninsula?