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ConjurerDragon said:
If Styria gets that core and Hungary owns Bosnia - won´t that mean that with this gift the relations of Hungary and Styria will be poisoned? Relations will drop due to the common core and perhaps even lead to a war between Hungary and Styria - where the intent of the event is to reward Cilli and have cordial relations with Sigismund?

thats an IF, hungary owns BOS..........besides , PRM will never dow HUN (lets make it rarely, but i have never seen it.
economically PRM is a vassal of TYR , which further makes it less likely for a DOW.

will there be a DOW by HUN on PRM......maybe......

considering that PRM (cilli ) backed/supported and aided militarily Ladislaus V as the new HUN king, .............then we are not deviating form history when styrian and Hun forces clashed
 
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ideas for PRM

#(1436) The Counts of Cilli
event = {
id = 261004
trigger = {
owned = { province = 369 data = -1 } #Steiermark
}
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261004" #The Counts of Cilli
desc = "EVENTHIST261004"
#-#In 1396 count Hermann II of Cilli was in command of Styrian troops that took part in the Battle of Nicopolis. The Ottoman army won the battle decisively, but the count saved the life of the Hungarian King Sigismund of Luxemburg. A strong bond between the two men, which was further strengthened when Sigismund married Hermann's daughter Barbara, was created. In 1436 the Emperor Sigismund elevated the counts of Cilli to the rank of dukes. This triggered a feud with the Habsburg duke Frederick V, who was their formal liege lord.

date = { day = 2 month = march year = 1436 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261004A" #This is unacceptable
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -50 }
command = { type = addcore which = 366 } #Croatia
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 369 value = 5 } #Steiermark
command = { type = revolt which = 369 } #Steiermark
}
}

..............................................................

#(1424) Regency of Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol
event = {
id = 261010
trigger = { NOT = { war = { country = PRM country = TYR } } }
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261010" #Death of Ernest the Iron
desc = "EVENTHIST261010"
#-#Although by the treaty of Neuberg of 1379 the Habsburg lands had been partitioned into separate entities, to be held by different members of the Habsburg family, the idea of the unity of the family survived. The most important consequence of this was that by a clause in the treaty in the case of a minor inheriting one of the states the oldest member of the family was to assume tutelage over the minor ruler and regency of his countries. Therefore when Archduke Ernst the Iron of Styria prematurely died in his best manhood in 1424 at the age of 47, and his sons Friedrich and Albrecht were only 9 and 5 years old, their uncle Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol, became tutor of the two brothers and administered Styria, Carinthia and Carniola not only for them as their tutor, but personally as regent. The large noble dynasties of Styria, especially the Cilli, who quickly rose in power with the close personal friendship of Count Herman II and Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund, used the rather weak central authority during the regency, to enhance their power and autonomy.

date = { day = 9 month = june year = 1424 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261010A" #Let Friedrich IV be our regent
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 100 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 322015 } #TYR: Regency of Friedrich IV in Inner Austria
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261010B" #Refuse Friedrich and have Hermann II of Cilli instead
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, King of HUN and BOH
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0111017 } #Hermann II von Cilli
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0111018 } #Friedrich IV
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 2 }
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = german }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

...........................................

If Tyrol annexes all of styria , i think this sequence should be included (initially I was against it, but see a need to help HAB)

#(1435-1456) Cilli's rule the Slovenians
event = {
id = 322029
trigger = {
AND = {
owned = { province = 369 data = -1 } #Steirmark
control = { province = 369 data = -1 }
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 367 data = -1 } #Krain
control = { province = 367 data = -1 }
}
}
not = { exists = PRM }
exists = HAB
}
random = no
country = TYR
name = "EVENTNAME322029" #Let Herman rule the Slovenians
desc = "EVENTHIST322029"
#-#In 1396 count Hermann II of Cilli was in command of Styrian troops that took part in the Battle of Nicopolis. The Ottoman army won the battle decisively, but the count saved the life of the Hungarian King Sigismund of Luxemburg. A strong bond between the two men, which was further strengthened when Sigismund married Hermann's daughter Barbara, was created. In 1436 the Emperor Sigismund elevated the counts of Cilli to the rank of dukes and granted large lands in Lower Styria to them.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1435 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1456 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME322029A" #Give in to the Emperor's pressure
command = { type = independence which = PRM }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 261003 } #PRM: Cilli lands
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME322029B" #Keep Krain
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = slavonic }
}
}


.........................................

#(1436) Cilli lands
event = {
id = 261003
trigger = {
event = 322029 #TYR: Cilli's rule the Slovenians
}
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261003" #Cilli's rule
desc = "EVENTHIST261003"
#-#Having first supported the Habsburgs in their war against the counts of Gorizia-Tyrol in 1308. The Cilli family where always amongst the favorites of the Habsburgs. The Cilli family slowly acquired large estates in the adjoining duchies of Styria, Carinthia,and Carniola as well as in the territories of the Hungarian crown in Croatia and Slavonia. Their influence rose and they became one of the most powerful families in the area.

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261003A" #Krain is now ours
command = { type = capital which = 367 } #Krain
command = { type = flagname which = "Cilli" } #Cilli COA
command = { type = setflag which = [Cilli] }
command = { type = provincetax which = 367 value = 3 } #Krain
command = { type = secedeprovince which = TYR value = 369 }
#Steirmark
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 30 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
}
}


required new flag and shields,..........already made.
 
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required new flag and shields,..........already made.
Where?

And where is the flagname command in your proposal? I only see a setflag command.

For 261004, you need two versions: one if PRM is vassal of TYR with corresponding added commands, another if not and without the breakvassal command.

It could be a problem if TYR is vassal of PRM with 261004 as it is.
 

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Kaigons balkan set - the one named counts of Cilli



And where is the flagname command in your proposal? I only see a setflag command.

oops,

like this?
command = { type = flagname which = "Cilli" } #Cilli COA

is there a set order (placing for it) ?

For 261004, you need two versions: one if PRM is vassal of TYR with corresponding added commands, another if not and without the breakvassal command.

It could be a problem if TYR is vassal of PRM with 261004 as it is.

261004 is not very imporatant it could stay as is, but I thought it should be similar to event 261014
 

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I will have to create the EGUFSM version too... Better redo both versions with a new source image. A link?

Ok for the flagname command. There is no needed set order.

About 261004, this is because of the strange behavior of the breakvassal command. In TYR_322016 (that triggers PRM_261014), we are sure PRM is vassal of TYR and thus breakvassal command can apply the way it should.
 

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I will have to create the EGUFSM version too... Better redo both versions with a new source image. A link?

Ok for the flagname command. There is no needed set order.

About 261004, this is because of the strange behavior of the breakvassal command. In TYR_322016 (that triggers PRM_261014), we are sure PRM is vassal of TYR and thus breakvassal command can apply the way it should.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celje

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_of_Cilli
top one should not be used as its the personnel COA of ulrich, check bottom of page

hmmm, why is kaigons a re dark blue matching modern day slovenia colours

http://www.geocities.com/thewuschkes/arms.html
# 7 and # 10 is the reason on why only the 3 stars is required

OK, no need to amend 261004 , it will stay as is
 
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Cilli gfx sets:

shieldprmcilli.png

smallshieldprmcilli.png


shieldprmcillix.png

smallshieldprmcillin.png


flagprmcilli.png
 
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Just a precision, PRM_261018 is triggered by TYR_322029 => no "event = 322029" condition in trigger of PRM_261018 => no trigger
And no need of a sleepevent 261018 command.

EDIT: first available id for PRM is 261003.

If PRM lose german culture, it could be a problem with PRM_261002 "Styria becomes Austria" and Austria without german culture. What should be done in this case?
 
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Just a precision, PRM_261018 is triggered by TYR_322029 => no "event = 322029" condition in trigger of PRM_261018 => no trigger
And no need of a sleepevent 261018 command.

EDIT: first available id for PRM is 261003.

If PRM lose german culture, it could be a problem with PRM_261002 "Styria becomes Austria" and Austria without german culture. What should be done in this case?

#(1419-1820) Styria becomes Austria - Ahistorical
event = {
id = 261002
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = HAB }
countrysize = 2
atwar = no
}
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261002" #Styria becomes Austria
desc = "EVENTHIST261002"
#-#Since the main branch of the Austrian Habsburgs has ceased to exist, it is now upon the Dukes of Styria to lead the dynasty.

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261002A" #Lead the House of Habsburg
command = { type = flagname which = "" }
command = { type = country which = HAB }
command = { type = add_countryculture which = german }
command = { type = addcore which = 350 } #Salzburg
command = { type = addcore which = 351 } #Austria
command = { type = addcore which = 327 } #Ostmarch
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261002B" #Remain Dukes of Styria
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { }
}
}


................................................
amended to 261003