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I agree to all of the above. I intended to add your DP slider changes but finally somehow managed to miss them.

As I said in the other thread, I misunderstood the Tyrol's action for prolonging the regency (didn't take a good enough look at its date), and thought it happens in 1336 and would keep Styria a vassal until Friedrich IV's death. That's why I introduced Frederic of Cilli (You can see that in the event Herman II is chosen as regent, he gives it up in 1432).

But maybe two events could be made for extending Friederich IV's regency, in 1431 and 1436, the way you intended the event to go, and in the way I misunderstood it. So:

1431 a) keep regency b) give it up
1436 a) give up the regency b) keep it until death
 
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Perhaps I shuld explai further why Friderik II was needed as monarch: because of the possibility that Friedrich IV is regent until his death, I had to move the 'control' instance of Friedrich V to start in 1439. So if Styria chose Herman II as regent, then disappeared, and appeared again after 1432, the ruler would still be Herman, and he would continue his reign even after his historical death (1435), all the way to 1439.
 

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I don't think Friedrich IV really had the possibility to extend it further than 1436. His pretext for extending it was the protection of Albrecht until he had come of age, and that had happened in 1436.
 

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I hope this version is better

Styria

Code:
#Regency of Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol#
event = {
	id = 261010
	trigger = { NOT = { war = { country = PRM country = TYR } } }
	random = no 
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261010 #"Death of Ernest the Iron"
	desc = EVENTHIST261010	
	style = 1

	date = { day = 9 month = june year = 1424 }

	action_a = {
		name = ACTIONNAME261010A #"Let Friedrich IV be our regent"
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 100 }
                command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
                command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 322015 } #TYR: Regency of Friedrich IV in Inner Austria
	}
	action_b = {
		name = ACTIONNAME261010B #"Refuse Friedrich and let Hermann II of Cilli rule"
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, king of HUN and BOH
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 11817 } #Herman II
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 11818 } #Friedrich IV
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 2 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	} 
}

event = {
	id = 261011
	trigger = { war = { country = PRM country = TYR } }
	random = no 
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261011 #"Regency of Herman II of Cilli (ahistorical)"
	desc = EVENTHIST261011
	style = 1

	date = { day = 9 month = june year = 1424 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Ok"
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, king of HUN and BOH
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 11817 } #Herman II
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 11818 } #Friedrich IV
	} 
}

event = {
          id = 261012 #Triggered by TYR 322015: Regency of Friedrich IV in Inner Austria
          random = no
          country = PRM 
          name = EVENTNAME261012 #"Regency of Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol"
          desc = EVENTHIST261012
           style = 1 
                      
           action_a = {
                         name = "Ok"
                         command = { type = stability value = 4 }
                            }
}

event = {
	id = 261013
	trigger = {

		exists = TYR
		monarch = 11818 #Friedrich IV
		NOT = { vassal   = { country = PRM country = TYR } }
	}
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261013 #"Change of regent"
	desc = EVENTHIST261013
	style = 0
	
	date = { year = 1425 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 23 month = june year = 1439 }

	action_a ={
		name = ACTIONNAME261013A #"We prefer Herman of Cilli"
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, king of HUN and BOH
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 11817 } #Herman II
		command = { type = stability value = 3 } 
	}
}

#Frederich V ascends the throne
event = {
	id = 261014 #Triggered by TYR 322016
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261014 #"Friedrich V becomes of age"
	desc = EVENTHIST261014
	style = 0

	action_a ={
		name = ACTIONNAME261014A #"Friedrich V becomes Duke of Inner Austria"
		command = { type = breakvassal which = TYR }
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -50 }
                command = { type = stability value = 3 }
                command = { type = diplomats value = 3 }
                command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 30 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 261015
	trigger = { monarch = 11817 } #Herman Celjski
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261014 #"Friederich V becomes of age"
	desc = EVENTHIST261015
	style = 0
	date = { day = 20 month = september year = 1431 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { year = 1435 }

	action_a ={
		name = ACTIONNAME261014A #"Frederic V becomes Duke of Inner Austria"
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = ROM value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 11819 } #Friedrich V (early instance)
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 11801 } #Frederic V
	}
}

event = {
	id = 261016
	trigger = { monarch = 11818 } #Friedrich IV
	random = no
	country = PRM
	name = EVENTNAME261014 #"Friedrich V becomes of age"
	desc = EVENTHIST261014
	style = 0

        date = { day = 24 month = march year = 1436 }
        #offset = 15
	#deathdate = { year = 1437 }

	action_a ={
		name = ACTIONNAME261014A #"Frederic V becomes Duke of Inner Austria"
		command = { type = breakvassal which = TYR }
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -50 }
                command = { type = stability value = 3 }
                command = { type = diplomats value = 3 }
                command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 30 }
	}
}

event = {
          id = 261017
          trigger = { OR = {
		monarch = 11819 #Friedrich V (early instance)
		monarch = 11801 #Friedrich V
	  } }
          random = no
          country = PRM
          name = EVENTNAME261017 #"Treaty with Albrecht VI"
          desc = EVENTHIST261017
          style = 1
           
          date = { day = 12 month = may year = 1436 }
          offset = 30
	  deathdate = { month = may year = 1439 }
          
          action_a = {
                        name = ACTIONNAME261017A #"Accept the treaty"
                        command = { type = provincetax which = 369 value = -1 }
                        command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 3 }
                           }
          action_b = {
                         name = ACTIONNAME261017B #"Don’t make any concessions to Albrecht"
                         command = { type = revoltrisk which = 312 value = 6 }
                         command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
                         command  = { type = setflag which = no_concessions }
                            }
}
EVENTNAME261010;Death of Ernest the Iron;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261010;Although by the treaty of Neuberg of 1379 the Habsburg lands had been partitioned into separate entities, to be held by different members of the Habsburg family, the idea of the unity of the family survived. The most important consequence of this was that by a clause in the treaty in the case of a minor inheriting one of the states the oldest member of the family was to assume tutelage over the minor ruler and regency of his countries. Therefore when Archduke Ernst the Iron of Styria prematurely died in his best manhood in 1424 at the age of 47, and his sons Friedrich and Albrecht were only 9 and 5 years old, their uncle Friedrich IV, Count of Tirol, became tutor of the two brothers and administered Styria, Carinthia and Carniola not only for them as their tutor, but personally as regent. The large noble dynasties of Styria, especially the Cilli, who quickly rose in power with the close personal friendship of Count Herman II and Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund, used the rather weak central authority during the regency, to enhance their power and autonomy.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261010A;Let Friedrich IV be our regent;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261010B;Refuse Friedrich and have Hermann II of Cilli instead;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME261011;Regency of Herman II of Cilli (ahistorical);;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261011;Archduke Ernest the Iron was in his best manhood when he passed away in 1424 at the age of 47. His body was interred in the Abbey Reun near Graz. His successors were his three minor sons, Frederic V (*1415), Albert VI (*1418), and Ernest II (*1420). Since Styria was at war with Tyrol, whose ruler Friedrich IV would otherwise, according to Habsburg tradition, be chosen as the guardian of Ernest's sons, the Estates decided to trust the regency to Hermann II of Cilli, member of a noble familly of Styrian magnates that was quickly rising in power due to Herman's close personal Friendship with the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund, whose life he saved in the battle against the Turks at Nicopolis. Thus Herman was made regent of Croatia in 1406, and in 1436 the familly was rised to the rank of the princes of state.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME261012;Regency of Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261012;Friedrich IV's regency, during which Styria was governed from Tyrol by a regent whose main interest was to get as much profit as possible for himself out of his office, led to a notable weakening of central power and further strengthened the local noble dynasties and landowners, which led to increased taxes they demanded from their paesants, making the decline of their situation even more rapid.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME261013;Change of regent;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261013;Unsatisfied with Friedrich IV's handling of matters in Styria, the estates of Inner Austria decided to entrust the regency into the hands of the Counts of Cilli.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261013A;We prefer Herman of Cilli;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME261014;Friedrich V comes of age;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261014;Friedrich IV, regent for the minors Friedrich V and Albrecht VI, only reluctantly accepted to turn over Styria to his nephews. Usually, regencies in Hapsburg lands lasted until the heir had reached adulthood, which was by Hapsburg law at the age of 16. However when Friedrich V came of age in 1431, Friedrich IV managed to extend his term until Albrecht VI’s 16th birthday in 1435, under the pretext that a possible partition between the two brothers could only be negotiated fairly when both had reached adulthood. Even in 1435, Friedrich IV refused to give up rule of Styria. Only because of the arbitration of Albrecht V of Austria did Friedrich IV finally agree to end his regency on March 25th 1436.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261014A;Friedrich V becomes Duke of Inner Austria;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261015;Friedrich V, later emperor Friedrich III, became of age in 1431, on his 16th birthday, and took up the rulership of Inner Austria, thus terminating the regency of Cilli.;;;;;;;;;;14256
EVENTNAME261017;Treaty with Albrecht VI;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST261017;Soon after taking over over Styria, Friedrich V had to deal with the demands of his younger brother, Albrecht VI, for a part of their father’s estate. Their first treaty was concluded on May 13th 1436 in Vienna. By the terms of the treaty, Friedrich remained governor of all of Styria, but had to provide Albrecht with an income sufficient to fund a princely lifestyle. This soon wasn’t enough for the extravagant, ambitious and warlike Albrecht.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261017A;Accept the treaty;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME261017B;Don’t make any concessions to Albrecht;;;;;;;;;;


Tirol

Code:
#Regency in Inner Austria
event = {
	id = 322015 #triggered by PRM 261010
	random = no 
	country = TYR
	name = EVENTNAME322015 #"Regency of Friedrich IV in Inner Austria"
	desc = EVENTHIST322015
	style = 0

	action_a ={
		name = ACTIONNAME322015A #"We must take care of the children"
		command = { type = vassal which = PRM }
		command = { type = alliance which = PRM }
		command = { type = trigger which = 261012 } #PRM: Regency of Friedrich IV, Count of Tyrol
	}
}

#Friedrich V of Styria comes of age
event = {
          id  = 322016
          trigger =  { 
                      event = 322015
                      vassal = { country = TYR country = PRM }
                          }
          random = no
          country = TYR
          name = EVENTNAME261014 #"Friedrich V of Styria comes of age"
          desc = EVENTHIST261014
          style = 1
          
          date = { day = 20 month = september year = 1431 }
          offset = 1
          
          action_b = {
                        name = ACTIONNAME322016A #"Maintain Friedrich’s regency in Styria"
                        command = { type = relation which = PRM value = -40 } 
                        command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -20 } 
                            }             
          action_a = {
                         name = ACTIONNAME322016B #"Respect family law and let Friedrich V rule Styria"
                         command = { type = trigger which = 261014 } #PRM: End of Friedrich IV’s regency
                         command = { type = relation which = PRM value = 30 }
                         command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 10 }
                            }

}
EVENTNAME322015;Regency of Friedrich IV in Inner Austria;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST322015;Although by the treaty of Neuberg of 1379 the Habsburg lands had been partitioned into separate entities, to be held by different members of the Habsburg family, the idea of the unity of the family survived. The most important consequence of this was that by a clause in the treaty in the case of a minor inheriting one of the states the oldest member of the family was to assume tutelage over the minor ruler and regency of his countries. Therefore when Archduke Ernst the Iron of Styria prematurely died in his best manhood in 1424 at the age of 47, and his sons Friedrich and Albrecht were only 9 and 5 years old, their uncle Friedrich IV, Count of Tirol, became tutor of the two brothers and administered Styria, Carinthia and Carniola not only for them as their tutor, but personally as regent.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME322015A;We must take care of the children;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME322016A;Maintain Friedrich’s regency in Styria;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME322016B;Respect family law and let Friedrich V rule Styria;;;;;;;;;;

And monarchs.prm (a better solution than previous one, I think)

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 11801 }
	startdate = { day = 25 month = march year = 1436 }
	deathdate = {
		day = 19
		month = august 
		year = 1493
	}
	name = "Friedrich V"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}

#Regents for Frederic V
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 11817 }
	startdate = { day = 10 month = june year = 1424 }
	deathdate = { day = 13 month = october year = 1435 }
	name = "Herman II Celjski"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 8
	dormant = yes
	remark = "Regent for Frederic V"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 11818 }
	startdate = { day = 10 month = june year = 1424 }
	deathdate = { day = 24 month = june year = 1439 }
	name = "Friedrich IV"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
	remark = "Regent for Frederic V"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 11819 }
	startdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1424 }
	deathdate = { day = 19 month = august year = 1493 }
	name = "Friedrich V"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = yes
	remark = "Earlier instance"
}
 
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Krain not being included in HRE was a bit weird to me too. The borders are far from perfect, but Krain as such was always a part of HRE, so I think this should be changed.
 

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Krain not being included in HRE was a bit weird to me too. The borders are far from perfect, but Krain as such was always a part of HRE, so I think this should be changed.
Krain is part of HRE in AGCEEP 1.39.
 

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Another comment on the Friedrich IV's regency in Styria events:
I think it would be better to move the DP effects from the triggered event 261012 to the initial event 261010, so that a player knows the exact consequences of his choice. Also, please replace the serfdom +1 - that is very inappropriate for Friedrich IV who had in Tyrol allied with the lower classes against the rebellious nobility - by centralization -1 :)
 

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Centralisation -1 is already present in the initial event. The reasoning behind splitting slider changes among the two events was that in the first, the changes the estates would expect are made, and in the second those they would get in addition to what they baragined for. I have no objection to moving all of them into the initial event. Serfdom change is removed, I was under impression it was you who suggested it.
 

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I'd like to compile a list of army names for Styria, since HAB names seem rather less than adequate (and, I guess, mostly derived from much later time). I don't really know what Styrian armies would have been called in 15th century, but I see two possibilities - using the names of magnate famillies, or land names. In the first case:

  • Habsburg army
  • Goertz army
  • Cilli army
  • Walsee army
  • Black army (peasant)

And the second:

  • Steiermark army
  • Kaernten army
  • Krain army
  • Goertz army
  • Cilli army
  • Army of the Slovenian (Windish) Mark
  • Istrian army

I would much appreciate if some german speaking person could translate those names (I'm unsure about the endings :) ). I was also thinking of adding slovene names to the list, to make things a bit more colourful, even while I'm sure the names would be garman or latin in all official documents of the time.
 

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Since by 1469, Styria will most probably already get inherited by Austria, here is Austrian version of Baumkircher events:

Code:
#Baumkircher
event = {
	id = 179122
	trigger = { NOT = { exists = PRM }
                    NOT = { event = 261008 }} #PRM (Styria) version
	random = NO
	country = HAB
	name = "Baumkircher's revolt"
	desc = "Andreas Baumkircher was mercenary leader who did good service to Emperor Frederic III. Unfortunately, the Emperor failed to pay his wages and the debt accumulated. So in 1469, supported by Mathias Corvinus, Baumkircher led an uprising of Styrian nobility against Frederic III. He took and plundered several styrian towns and soundly beat the Emperor's army on the bettelfield. In the end, Frederic III was forced to make peace with him, pardoning the rebells and paying 14000 guldens."
	style = 1

	date = { month = february year = 1469 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Fight the rebels"
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 26 value = 3 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Buy peace"
		command = { type = cash value = -40 }
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 09395 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
	}
}
event = {
	id = 179123
	trigger = { event = 179122 }
	random = NO
	country = HAB
	name = "Death of Baumkircher"
	desc = "Suspecting him of ploting another rebellion, Frederic III tricked Baumkircher and von Greisseneck to enter the city of Graz, where he had them arrested and publicly beheaded in front of the city gates."
	style = 1

	date = { day = 22 month = april year = 1471 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Execute Baumkircher"
		command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 12 }
	}
}

Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 09395 }
	category = general
	name = "Baumkircher"
	startdate = { year = 1469 month = february }
	deathdate = { year = 1471 month = april day = 23 }
	dormant = yes
	rank = 3
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
}
 
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I don't think you ever capitalise "von" (in the text for the second event), but it looks good otherwise. :)
 

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And you should write "Emperor" and not "emperor".

I understand the first event to fire the 1st February. Same date as for original PRM one => no way to have both, right ? But I'd add "not event <id of PRM same event>" in the trigger just to clarify.
 

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Svantevid said:
OK, I'll do it, but NOT exists = PRM was meant to cover that.
Yes, this is not really needed because of the same date but with the information of the PRM event id in the trigger, both events are linked for maintenance purpose.
 

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#(1425-1439) Change of regent
event = {
id = 261013
trigger = {

exists = TYR
monarch = 0111018 #Friedrich IV
NOT = { vassal = { country = PRM country = TYR } }
}
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261013" #Change of regent
desc = "EVENTHIST261013"
#-#Unsatisfied with Friedrich IV's handling of matters in Styria, the estates of Inner Austria decided to entrust the regency into the hands of the Counts of Cilli. In 1437, Emperor Siegmund of Luxembourg, elevated the Counts of Cilli to State Princes. Since Hermann II was the son of Hermann I, Count of Cilli, and his wife was Katerina of Bosnia. The title of Lord of Bosnia was entrusted to the counts of Styria.

date = { year = 1425 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 23 month = june year = 1439 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261013A" #We prefer Herman of Cilli
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, king of HUN and BOH
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
command = { type = addcore which = 364 } #Bosnia
command = { type = addcore which = 366 } #Croatia
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0111017 } #Herman II Celjski
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
}
}


as per
"Counts of Cilli" was given to the house by emperor Louis IV of Bavaria in 1341 and derived from the medieval name Cilli of town Celje at Savinja river in present Slovenia. (our Krain on AGCEEP)
Hermann II of Cilli saved the life of Sigismund of Luxemburg (Hungarian king, from 1433 Holy Roman emperor). As a reward king Sigismund donated (1397-99) the city of Varaždin, the county of Zagorje, and many estates in present-day Croatia to the family.
 

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Toio said:
#(1425-1439) Change of regent
event = {
id = 261013
trigger = {

exists = TYR
monarch = 0111018 #Friedrich IV
NOT = { vassal = { country = PRM country = TYR } }
}
random = no
country = PRM
name = "EVENTNAME261013" #Change of regent
desc = "EVENTHIST261013"
#-#Unsatisfied with Friedrich IV's handling of matters in Styria, the estates of Inner Austria decided to entrust the regency into the hands of the Counts of Cilli. In 1437, Emperor Siegmund of Luxembourg, elevated the Counts of Cilli to State Princes. Since Hermann II was the son of Hermann I, Count of Cilli, and his wife was Katerina of Bosnia. The title of Lord of Bosnia was entrusted to the counts of Styria.

date = { year = 1425 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 23 month = june year = 1439 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME261013A" #We prefer Herman of Cilli
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 } #Friend of emperor Sigismund, king of HUN and BOH
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 200 }
command = { type = addcore which = 364 } #Bosnia
command = { type = addcore which = 366 } #Croatia
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0111017 } #Herman II Celjski
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
}
}


as per
"Counts of Cilli" was given to the house by emperor Louis IV of Bavaria in 1341 and derived from the medieval name Cilli of town Celje at Savinja river in present Slovenia. (our Krain on AGCEEP)
Hermann II of Cilli saved the life of Sigismund of Luxemburg (Hungarian king, from 1433 Holy Roman emperor). As a reward king Sigismund donated (1397-99) the city of Varaždin, the county of Zagorje, and many estates in present-day Croatia to the family.

If Styria gets that core and Hungary owns Bosnia - won´t that mean that with this gift the relations of Hungary and Styria will be poisoned? Relations will drop due to the common core and perhaps even lead to a war between Hungary and Styria - where the intent of the event is to reward Cilli and have cordial relations with Sigismund?