Krain, Styria, Cilli, Austria - History seen through the eyes of a Slovenian
This land has been much abused, even to the point of being part of Kindom of Croatia in official GC
So at least a few changes should be in order, I think, and I beg you to excuse me if I'm warming over some old discussions. All this based on the assumption that this land is in essence Austrian land of Krain, or Carniola, present day Slovenia.
1. Krain was always part of HRE.
2. Land product: there's no copper in Krain. Iron, however, was mined in the past. But it was mainly agricultural land, so perhaps grain or wine or sheep (although cows were always much more numerous, I think), or even naval supplies (even today, almost 50% of Slovenia is covered with woods)
3. It should in all cases be core province of Austria (after Steyer is gone, that is), since historically, it was all that time part of it (except for a very brief spell of Napoleon's Illyrical provinces)
4. Culture: I'm not proposing to make it slovene . But it is a problem. Historically, Krain had a mixture of german, italian and slovene culture, where peasant folk was predominantly slovenian, while upper classes were german, with fluctuating italian influences. During the timescope of the game, there were no national uprisings, so Austria shouldn't be penalised for owning Krain, and that leaves but two options: either Austria is given Krain's culture, or Krain's culture is made the same as Austria's (german, at present).
This land has been much abused, even to the point of being part of Kindom of Croatia in official GC
So at least a few changes should be in order, I think, and I beg you to excuse me if I'm warming over some old discussions. All this based on the assumption that this land is in essence Austrian land of Krain, or Carniola, present day Slovenia.
1. Krain was always part of HRE.
2. Land product: there's no copper in Krain. Iron, however, was mined in the past. But it was mainly agricultural land, so perhaps grain or wine or sheep (although cows were always much more numerous, I think), or even naval supplies (even today, almost 50% of Slovenia is covered with woods)
3. It should in all cases be core province of Austria (after Steyer is gone, that is), since historically, it was all that time part of it (except for a very brief spell of Napoleon's Illyrical provinces)
4. Culture: I'm not proposing to make it slovene . But it is a problem. Historically, Krain had a mixture of german, italian and slovene culture, where peasant folk was predominantly slovenian, while upper classes were german, with fluctuating italian influences. During the timescope of the game, there were no national uprisings, so Austria shouldn't be penalised for owning Krain, and that leaves but two options: either Austria is given Krain's culture, or Krain's culture is made the same as Austria's (german, at present).
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