Korea strategy

[RedRalphWiggum]

So, after an ironman game went badly wrong on me last night (my own fault; spent money on massive navy and colonising Taiwan :mellow, I want your strategies. Bear in mind, getting all of Manchuria and the Siberian Pacific coast is a non-negotiable goal.

 

[achmedino]

So, after an ironman game went badly wrong on me last night (my own fault; spent money on massive navy and colonising Taiwan :mellow, I want your strategies. Bear in mind, getting all of Manchuria and the Siberian Pacific coast is a non-negotiable goal.

Should be really easy, just ally Haixi at the start, get some wars going with the other Jurchen tribes with them and you'll be good. They'll probably be hostile towards you as soon as you take any lang from Jianzhou or vassalize them, but when you do that you're basically already stronger than they are so you don't need them anymore by that point.

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Should be really easy, just ally Haixi at the start, get some wars going with the other Jurchen tribes with them and you'll be good. They'll probably be hostile towards you as soon as you take any lang from Jianzhou or vassalize them, but when you do that you're basically already stronger than they are so you don't need them anymore by that point.

Exactly what I tried. I took two provinces from Jianzhou, then Haixi vassalised them ina later wart. Then they vassalised the other two. Then they kicked my face in. So

Was I not aggressive enough in the first war? Can Korea vassalise Jianzhou from the start?
With ideas and stuff Korea should be able to out-tech hordes - in your experience does this happen?

 

[Brainblow]

Conquer the Manchu tribe at the coast of Manchuria.
That seems to be what AI Korea does these days when successfully surviving.

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Conquer the Manchu tribe at the coast of Manchuria.
That seems to be what AI Korea does these days when successfully surviving.

Think it's worth it to take 3-4 provinces off them? Could piss off Ming...

 

[Ranjid]

Exactly what I tried. I took two provinces from Jianzhou, then Haixi vassalised them ina later wart. Then they vassalised the other two. Then they kicked my face in. So

Was I not aggressive enough in the first war? Can Korea vassalise Jianzhou from the start?
With ideas and stuff Korea should be able to out-tech hordes - in your experience does this happen?

Taking 2 provinces is not quite equal to vassalizing a horde. Try that. They have 24 BT afaik. So that should be possible. Afterwards you can blob like crazy in Manchuria, China and Japan, because you can use your vassals CB to expand. Which produces almost no AE.

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Taking 2 provinces is not quite equal to vassalizing a horde. Try that. They have 24 BT afaik. So that should be possible. Afterwards you can blob like crazy in Manchuria, China and Japan, because you can use your vassals CB to expand. Which produces almost no AE.

Thanks, I'll try that. Actually not that interested in major blobbing, my goal is the Pacific coast of Siberia, Taiwan, possibly Philippines, and maybe even Alyeska, though that's probably a bit of a stretch.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Think it's worth it to take 3-4 provinces off them? Could piss off Ming...

If you ally Ming, you can break a truce or three without pissing them off too much, though that would bring in every horde + Japan so not recommended.

 

[kitemasaki]

Ally with Haixi and Ming. Invite them to a war with Jiangzhou. Hopefully they join because you will get less of a hostile reaction to vassalizing Jiangzhou in 1 war. Keep them around while you vassal feed Yuren to Jianzhou. The key is to make sure you get Haixi (while doing early northern wars) to join in so they don't declare a separate war taking from your future spoils. Get a war with Korchin and vassalize them as well. Then you can use your nice horde armies to take out Haixi and Oirat. Ming shouldn't mind as much as long as you keep relations high and invite them to wars. I would advise against making a horde a march since they can turn hostile due to their armies eclipsing yours in numbers just from their ideas, besides you want to diplo annex Jianzhou/Haixi lands since Manchu will become accepted culture and give you some nice lands already Confucian

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Ming won't join in any offensive wars no matter what I do.

 

[Ranjid]

You don't need Ming to be in the war for a reduction of AE. Just being allied to them is fine enough, as long as you're able to beat the hordes on your own.

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

You don't need Ming to be in the war for a reduction of AE. Just being allied to them is fine enough, as long as you're able to beat the hordes on your own.

Hmm.... I'll give it a try tonight. If I can vassalise Jiangzhou I should be OK. Otherwise it's not looking good for my keyboard

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Thanks for the tips, this worked out well. A little too well, in fact. Only 100 years in and there's no real challenge anymore.

 

[achmedino]

Thanks for the tips, this worked out well. A little too well, in fact. Only 100 years in and there's no real challenge anymore.

Look west and you'll see your challenge,

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Look west and you'll see your challenge,

Weird thing is I actually have better army tech than them.

 

[kitemasaki]

Look west and you'll see your challenge,

Lol I was saying the same thing.
The thing about Russia is that they will have more resources than what you currently get from the land you own. Better start eating more of that Han territory!