Kodoha Japan and Conscription

[Broletariat90]

So I've noticed a predicament in my current play-through as Kodoha Japan. Apparently if you take the Kodoha path, you become non-aligned. The paths leads you to an invasion of the Soviet Union, so you will need a lot of manpower. The issue is since you are non-aligned you cannot increase conscription past limited. So this just might be an issue. I have yet to see how it will play out.

What I find funny is that the Kodoha faction were almost the most right-wing political faction in Japan at the time, and probably should be classified as fascist. But I'm assuming they were made non-aligned because the game can't have two fascist factions for one nation. (at least currently)

 

[Meglok]

So I've noticed a predicament in my current play-through as Kodoha Japan. Apparently if you take the Kodoha path, you become non-aligned. The paths leads you to an invasion of the Soviet Union, so you will need a lot of manpower. The issue is since you are non-aligned you cannot increase conscription past limited. So this just might be an issue. I have yet to see how it will play out.

What I find funny is that the Kodoha faction were almost the most right-wing political faction in Japan at the time, and probably should be classified as fascist. But I'm assuming they were made non-aligned because the game can't have two fascist factions for one nation. (at least currently)

Oops. That might be a problem if there are no pop bonuses in a focus, doctrine, or decision. Might be worth a bug report.

 

[Broletariat90]

Oops. That might be a problem if there are no pop bonuses in a focus, doctrine, or decision. Might be worth a bug report.

I'm on probation , I can't report bugs. :/

 

[Dryhad]

I'm surprised we didn't hear more about this in the previews, but it's pretty interesting that Japan does get a Non-Aligned branch after all

#MonarchistIdeologyWhen

 

[Broletariat90]

@podcat. Thought I'd point this out to you considering I can't post anything in the bug reports area.

 

[Zwirbaum]

In general I would say Extensive Conscription should be available to everyone (non-alligned, not sure about democracies) with right War Support/Stability during peace.

 

[Broletariat90]

Hopefully a dev sees this.

 

[Joonnnyy]

as unalinged japan you can get 4% manpower, 7% if you switch away from total mobilisation, before the war, and can easealy go to 9.5% at the start with extensive conscription
2.5% as limited consription, better laws need war
2.5% from spiritual mobilisation, challange the zaibatsu, imperial arsenal, national defense state
2% from the decision Institute indiscriminate conscription, also strengthens army vs navy
-3% if you stay at total mob, untill at war start you can take women in the workforce

with total mob that is ~2.6m without over 4.5m
should be enough to hold for a few weeks untill the ~1.6m from extensive conscription show up and the possibly ~1.9m from women in workforce

 

[Meglok]

Hopefully a dev sees this.

Did some looking into this. Limited is the max until you go to war with the Soviets, then all conscription laws are available depending upon other criteria.

There is also the Focus Spirit Mobilization down the Challenge the Zaibatsus path that provides a 2.5 % bump. It can be completed before going to war. 5% pop is probably enough to get the ball rolling vs the Russians.

If not, you can grab the Indiscriminate Conscription decision down in the Interservice Rivalry group for another 2%.

 

[Broletariat90]

I'll give it a go then! Thanks guys!

 

[Broletariat90]

I noticed some other stuff with Kodoha Japan that could be changed or I'm just curious on others opinion on it. Has anyone else gone down this path yet?

 

[Hopit]

I noticed some other stuff with Kodoha Japan that could be changed or I'm just curious on others opinion on it. Has anyone else gone down this path yet?

I've been smashing my head against the communist Japan path (and the new command system)

 

[Meglok]

I noticed some other stuff with Kodoha Japan that could be changed or I'm just curious on others opinion on it. Has anyone else gone down this path yet?

Yes. What are you looking at?

 

[Paladin7]

In my current game I went down the Support Kodoha / Showa restoration branch. I hired the fascist demagogue when i realised i had become completely non aligned. Yet after reaching 100% fascism, i am still non-alinged, no event to change or anything. Now, i did get the event that all fascist people in the government had been assassinated, but i think its weird that i cant change even after reaching 100% support. Wondering if it is a bug or an actual gameplay mechanic.

 

[Dryhad]

In my current game I went down the Support Kodoha / Showa restoration branch. I hired the fascist demagogue when i realised i had become completely non aligned. Yet after reaching 100% fascism, i am still non-alinged, no event to change or anything. Now, i did get the event that all fascist people in the government had been assassinated, but i think its weird that i cant change even after reaching 100% support. Wondering if it is a bug or an actual gameplay mechanic.

Almost all of the events in those chains, including the ones which actually flip government control, are now decisions.

 

[Paladin7]

Almost all of the events in those chains, including the ones which actually flip government control, are now decisions.

Yet there have been no decisions available to actually change government, or at least there have been none in my game.

Also, it was quite easy to defeat the Soviets when attacking at the same time as Germany, given that historical AI is on. Manpower isnt as bad when conscription law is changed.

 

[Johuotar]

In general I would say Extensive Conscription should be available to everyone (non-alligned, not sure about democracies) with right War Support/Stability during peace.

Definitely this. There are more ways to turn be non-aligned with new dlc and countries like Finland could get some manpower and divisions out before wars start without having to turn fascist.

In my current game I went down the Support Kodoha / Showa restoration branch. I hired the fascist demagogue when i realised i had become completely non aligned. Yet after reaching 100% fascism, i am still non-alinged, no event to change or anything. Now, i did get the event that all fascist people in the government had been assassinated, but i think its weird that i cant change even after reaching 100% support. Wondering if it is a bug or an actual gameplay mechanic.

I think I saw dev state that the desicions are gone for countries like Japan now since they use focuses. But you can always suggest it to be changed even if it is WAD.

 

[Stug_Life]

I keep bringing up in other threads that the limits for non-aligned need to be retweeked since nations like German Empire, Austro-Hungarians, Kodoha Japan, and Kingdom of Italy are becoming important parts to this game.