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US Warmongers

I am playing my first version 1.02 game as the US, and am amazed as to how quickly my war entry has gone up. It is currently February 1939 and my war entry is up to 78%. I started comparing my entry to other countries soon after the Spanish Civil War event, and it was consistently higher than any other democratic country. It was higher than Japan's before they switched governments. It was higher than France and the UK until France passed me sometime in mid 1938. I may have passed them again after the rape of Nanking event, I didn't check.

Germany has done nothing other than getting the Anschluss and the treaty of Munich. Well, someone I'm sure wants to say at this point "Japan must have gone ahistorically bonkers in China".
They have conquered a bunch of provinces there, but only about 15 or 20. This may be more than was historical at this point in the actual war, but it shouldn't be enough to push me to the brink of war. At this rate, even if there were no more declarations of war, and no more province taking, it would take me 22 more months to get to 100% war entry - which will happen in December 1941 by a strange coincidence.

In reality even at the end of 1941 it took an attack on Pearl Harbor to get the US into the war, despite having Germany controlling most of Europe and making serious gains in the Soviet Union.

My point is that US war entry goes up way too fast, which results in them joining the allies in 1938 or 1939 very often, at least based on my limited number of games. I think that war entry in the US should not advance 1% per month like the other democracies until some trigger event happens. The reoccupation of the Rhineland is too early, so maybe make it the Anschluss or the treaty of Munich.
Also, again I admit to no expertise, but I don't know if the average US citizen - which is what war entry is about after all -really cared too much about the progress of the war between Japan and China, at least in the beginning. Maybe events there shouldn't affect war entry until the Rape of Nanking brings it to the attention of the citizens.

Maybe the US war entry was made artificially high so that someone playing them wouldn't be too bored, but you could give the player an option to go to war before 100% war entry, so they are not waiting out the whole war. Give them a big penalty, say dissent level of 100-war entry level, so that they cannot just declare war at will. Make it so the AI will not use this option unless they are at or near 100% entry levels.
 
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I strongly agree, by the sound of it, everyone else is having the same problem. As for the trigger you mentioned, I think it should be when Germany declares war on Poland/France, or whichever democratic country they attack first. I doubt the Annexation of Austria would inspire the fathers and mothers of Americans to send thier boys off to die.
 

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