Actually, isn't it impossible for the patch to have any effect on the KfS scenario? If not, then we might have a problem, as there have been some reported bugs... but anyway, somebody must have changed tax values of provs, right?
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Sterkarm said:
The tax values are independent of the scenarios. Shouldn't cause any problems though.
Anyhow, get the scenario here. Moved the small castle from Cieszyn to Krakow and made Scotland selectable, in case Marty shows up.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/KFS.zip
See you all at the usual time.
Well, regarding patch changes, claimable areas of duchies in Sweden have been changed at least. There could be changes in other places with claimable areas too, if anyone has certain knowledge about it please post it asap. I'll move the provs in Sweden around a bit after checking the scen around for culture, technological and whatever oddities. I'll be reposting it then, so that you'll have dozen versions of it. 
Byakhiam said:Well, regarding patch changes, claimable areas of duchies in Sweden have been changed at least. There could be changes in other places with claimable areas too, if anyone has certain knowledge about it please post it asap. I'll move the provs in Sweden around a bit after checking the scen around for culture, technological and whatever oddities. I'll be reposting it then, so that you'll have dozen versions of it.
Do you Finns ever sleep?
Patrucio said:Do you Finns ever sleep?
I woke up at 23 local time, so yes I do. Just at obscure times.
Well, will as it's unlikely that official quickpatch fixes the problems with periodic piety and prestige, shall we use Elmokki's quickfix there? If yes, it has to be installed all of us, which could be a hassle. If no, I'll simply declare Crusading forbidden by anyone without Crusader trait, with the exception that you may go to aid your allies to defend themselves.
EDIT: Link to Elmokki's quickfix
EDIT: Link to Elmokki's quickfix
From what I can tell, the prestige-piety problem is with buildings that give them, not with crusading, so even if we do not crusade it may be a problem. Either we live with the potential problem or apply the fix. I favor the latter, but will wait for consensus.
Edit: I don't think so, Sterk.
Edit: I don't think so, Sterk.
Hyzhenhok said:
Ah damnit, a bit too late, lol, I guess I can uninstall/reinstall, etc.
Hyzhenhok said:
Well, most important argument for getting to Crusade when not as a Crusader has been: "Crusading Exceptations are a killer without any crusading." When Crusading Exceptations are easily negated by building three or four churches in your demesne, that argument is void.
I can live with each of us getting bonus prestige and piety in significant amounts as it applies equally to all players. I favour the fix as well, though.
EDIT: I have renamed the scenario files, so you'll get the final version from me hosting it to you. Saves a lot of hassle.
It is possible to transfer scenarios by hosting? I thought you could only transfer a save game. Unless you mean that you created a save game from the final scenario.
Quite an interesting session. It's funny that it's a complete turnaround from our first try - now Poland is hostile to Germany and Hungary and friendly to France.
Get the save here:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/Kingdoms.zip
Get the save here:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/Kingdoms.zip
Right, I'll do some editing between sessions then. I've noted that a handy list is good for that:
Returnings from Defensive Crusade:
- Hungarian vassal in Hellas area and Byzantion transferred to as vassal of Empire of Byzantium
Piety boosts:
- Hungary +400
Moslem edits:
- All moslems with overlarge demesne need some additional vassals
Law edits:
- Italy needs to be changed from Salic Consanguinity to Semi-Salic Consanguinity, if not that already
Cosmetic edits:
- Some people wanted to add numbers to their king names
Following things need confirmation:
- Ster: You can get up to +200 piety, how much you want?
If there is anything else you wish to request, please do so in the thread. Any requests must be done before 21 GMT on friday. After that, I'll only do game breaking stuff edits.
Returnings from Defensive Crusade:
- Hungarian vassal in Hellas area and Byzantion transferred to as vassal of Empire of Byzantium
Piety boosts:
- Hungary +400
Moslem edits:
- All moslems with overlarge demesne need some additional vassals
Law edits:
- Italy needs to be changed from Salic Consanguinity to Semi-Salic Consanguinity, if not that already
Cosmetic edits:
- Some people wanted to add numbers to their king names
Following things need confirmation:
- Ster: You can get up to +200 piety, how much you want?
If there is anything else you wish to request, please do so in the thread. Any requests must be done before 21 GMT on friday. After that, I'll only do game breaking stuff edits.
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er, I gave Byzantion to a vassal to reduce demesne penalty late in the session. I'd suggest moving him back to my court and giving Byz the county; so no BB subtracted from Hungary? Also, just make the count in Greece a vassal of Byzantium.
I want all 400 piety.
I want all 400 piety.
Hyzhenhok said:
I didn't notice that.
o No BB reduction for you then. Well then, is it held by a vassal that has other lands or a one prov vassal? If latter, it could be made vassal of Emperor (saves a hassle) and if former, it's easy to move the prov from vassal to Emperor.
Hyzhenhok said:
All right.
Well, what can one say? With 1.04 CK is very stabile! We played for seven hours without a CTD (Solmyrs connection died which is not CK's fault; and there was that mes-up when Hungarian king died), and I don't know how long you continued after I left-
In fact, because we were not crashing I did lose sense of time totally. I didn't believe we would be playing that long Anyway, standing on the gas-pedal I and the kids made it just in time, so it was not one moment too late that I left....
In fact, because we were not crashing I did lose sense of time totally. I didn't believe we would be playing that long
Anyway, standing on the gas-pedal I and the kids made it just in time, so it was not one moment too late that I left....
sorry everybody i fell asleep....
so far sweden ai didn't do much damage anyway only lost 1prov and seem to have inherited 1 of the duchys of sweden
so far sweden ai didn't do much damage anyway only lost 1prov and seem to have inherited 1 of the duchys of sweden
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Incidentally I've created my family genealogy so far, you can see it here: http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/verman1.html
Solmyr said:
That is very cool Solmyr. I think it will be much cooler when it builds up more during the game though.