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Well forgot you had to (re)form Jerusalem before the protestantism kicks in. Then it's gonna be quite hard (impossible?) to do so, especially with the buff Mamluks got in this patch.
 

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One of the glorious developers who frequents these forums and responds to the community.
As well as the current lead designer of EUIV.
Well forgot you had to (re)form Jerusalem before the protestantism kicks in. Then it's gonna be quite hard (impossible?) to do so, especially with the buff Mamluks got in this patch.
Someone conquered the world with ryukyu and you think it may be impossible to take 3 provinces in 60 years, albeit from a much stronger enemy? :D
 

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I think that Wiz talked about the possibility of introducing a special Ironman mode for mods if there was enough support for that.
Could be what you're looking for.

That would be awesome. Well, as long as it allowed achievements still... but I could see the potential for some real abuse there. There are just little things that mods can do a great job of cleaning up/fixing without needing to overhaul the game.
 

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Someone conquered the world with ryukyu and you think it may be impossible to take 3 provinces in 60 years, albeit from a much stronger enemy? :D

As someone who played more than 1000 hours on eu4 and understand the game "quite a bit", I don't think I'm overstating things when I'm saying it's going to be really hard (or impossible) to get 3 provinces from the (newly buff) Mamluks as the knights or Cyprus without exploit. Yeah Ryuku WC was done with exploit.
 

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As someone who played more than 1000 hours on eu4 and understand the game "quite a bit", I don't think I'm overstating things when I'm saying it's going to be really hard (or impossible) to get 3 provinces from the (newly buff) Mamluks as the knights or Cyprus without exploit. Yeah Ryuku WC was done with exploit.
Challenge accepted. :)
 

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Well, I stand corrected, tried an ironman run with the knights, managed to grab everything needed by 1485, problem was... You ALSO have to convert Jerusalem to catholic, was 14 months away from doing it, but protestantism poped in 1499 with 95.8% religious unity... That was quite unlucky :/

http://fr.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15eyfmd&s=8#.VFZYmfmG-30

By the way was really REALLY lucky this run (malta defected to me early on, ottomans & timurids raped mamluks to the last man etc), so I don't know if it could be done every try.
 

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Ottomans will pretty frequently wipe out the Mamluk armies whenever they are at war, it's basically your cue to land grab as any other neighbor.
 

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Completely missed Kingdom of Jerusalem except a Crusader Kings II-export variant. From what I understand from the previous page then, I can not release such a thing as vassal then if I'm glorious Ottoman Empire? =(
 

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Not just any monarchy. The ruling dynasty of Cyprus (the Lusignans) are in fact the descendants of the last king of Jerusalem prior to its conquest by the Saracens in 1187. If you're familiar with that period (or have seen the movie Kingdom of Heaven), you may remember Guy de Lusignan. He arranged his marriage to Sibylla, King Baldwin IV's sister, who ultimately became Baldwin's only surviving heir. Guy was crowned as Sibylla's king consort in 1186, and then promptly led his army to disaster at the Battle of Hattin the next year, thus sealing the Kingdom of Jerusalem's fate. Guy then tried to enlist Richard the Lionheart's support to regain Jerusalem during the Third Crusade, but after the crusade failed to recapture Jerusalem, he was given Cyprus as a consolation, thus beginning the dynasty that continues to rule the island at the 1444 start.

Too bad most/all Lusignans were scumbags.
 

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Ok, did another run & finally managed to form Jerusalem in 1492.
Wanted to continue the game for a bit more but can't really due to the really annoying "distance over 9000" bug when you form a nation in this patch.

http://imgur.com/a/CyPWU

So I guess it's doable even in ironman, just gotta do a few trick moves to get it done.
 

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Ok, did another run & finally managed to form Jerusalem in 1492.
Wanted to continue the game for a bit more but can't really due to the really annoying "distance over 9000" bug when you form a nation in this patch.

So I guess it's doable even in ironman, just gotta do a few trick moves to get it done.

Just save and reload to fix the bug.
 

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I didnt know that Jerusalems NIs are reward for CK2 achievment before i created KoJ... imagine my disappoitment. Especially i was looking forward to get this 3% missionary strength because it would save me 2000 adm point just to get it from religious group, which is essential in this region.
I know these NIs are very powerful and this is indeed a reward, but maybe developers would reconsider making another set of NIs avaible for everyone, much weaker of course, just for the sake of role-playing?


Or maybe there is some cheating way to change those ideas? :D