Kingdom of Jerusalem: Holy Orders

[Willi123]

Hi Paradox,

in my opinion it would makes sense to make (iberian or unique) holy orders available for Kingdom of Jerusalem as well. Which country in the world should be more eligable for holy orders as the holy land? Additionally it would be historical accurate. Many holy orders were founded there. Additionally, it helps to survive with this tiny country in this dangerous surrounding between the Ottomans, Mamluks and Qara.

 

[YellowPress]

Holy orders really should be available for all

 

[annulen]

Holy orders really should be available for all

Dunno about all, but at least they should be available for theocracies and crusader states like Cyprus and Kingdom of Jerusalem.

 

[YellowPress]

Dunno about all, but at least they should be available for theocracies and crusader states like Cyprus and Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Why not, they existed in all Catholic regions

 

[moscal]

Holy orders really should be available for all

IMO - this mechanism can be unlocked by gov. reforms.

 

[YellowPress]

IMO - this mechanism can be unlocked by gov. reforms.

Then Spanish would need a unique gov reform

 

[moscal]

Then Spanish would need a unique gov reform

Catholic iberian nations can have unlocked this earliest by eg. privileges. For muslim suffi orders also

Options are many.

 

[*Bubble_gum*]

That may be a good feature, but it's worth to say that all of the 3 Christian holy orders, represented in game, were established many years after the fall of the Kingdom of Jerusalem (more to say, Jesuits were established 100 years after the game start).

I would suggest that a bunch of new orders should be added:

- Benedictines
- Augustinians
- Carmelites

- Templars (could be reestablished in the Kingdom of Jerusalem)
- Bethlehemites (for the Kingdom of Jerusalem)
- Order of the Holy Sepulchre (for the Kingdom of Jerusalem)

- Order of Alcantara (for Castile instead of the Jesuits)
- Order of Calatrava (for Aragon instead of the Jesuits)
- Military order of Aviz (for Portugal instead of the Jesuits)

Jesuits should be established after 1540 via event and replace the 3 Iberian orders mentioned above.

Also some sufi orders could be added/reworked too:

- Qadiri (should be available for all Muslim countries excluding the Ottomans and turkish beyliks)
- Aissawa (should be available for Maghreb countries alongside with Granada)
- Shadhili (should be available for the Mamluks and Maghreb countries alongside with Granada)

- Badawiyya (for the Mamluks)
- Qalandariyya (for the Mamluks)

- Chishti (for Indian Muslim countries)
- Suhrawardiyya (for Indian Muslim countries)

- Mawlawiyya (for the Ottomans and turkish beyliks)
- Bektashi (for the Ottomans and turkish beyliks)
- Bayramiyya (for the Ottomans and turkish beyliks)

 

[Romanix90]

Hey @PDX Big Boss, i think this thread deserves a look. Jerusalem having Holy Orders besides Iberians seams interesting and i think most players would agree given the situation Crusader states and Jerusalem are.