Would ramping up attrition rates in Scotland- particularly in the highlands and islands- help Scotland survive early on? Or would the AI not be able to make use of this?
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Although you do imply that anyone who disagrees with you is boring and not up to the challenge of doing things your way:
hehe well yes I reverted to mind games now to get what I want :rofl:
As I pointed out upthread, United Kingdom is only really a suitable appellation for a country formed by PU or inheritance as IRL, and doesn't work for a country formed by conquest.
That's the Hanoverian coat of arms, right?
Well, that one would be wrong for GB unless you're also making a claim on Hanover and Lüneburg (And, it seems, France, though AFAIK the Hanoverian monarch's didn't continue the old Plantagenet/Tudor trend of claiming the French throne). And somewhere else..... Not sure where the hat represents.....
In fact, this raises the issue of heraldry regularly changing to reflect all of the owner's domains, which would be difficult, if not impossible, and nevermind needless to represent in-game. To that end, it makes sense to just use the Union Jack, as this came to replace heraldry in common usage anyway (Think regimental banners, flags, buntings, etc.).
Though I suppose there could be an argument for using different forms of the Union Flag depending on whether or not Ireland is owned by Britain, I would suggest this would be a bit of needless overkill.
If, however, you must insist on using a coat of arms rather than the flag, may I suggest this one:
As you can see, it represents England (three lions) Scotland (lion in a box :wacko: ) and Ireland (harp). It also displays the Tudor Rose (combined red rose of Lancaster and white rose of York)....
Actually the three lion are not lion but leopard.
To be exacte the blason is :
léopards passants, d'or, sur champ de gueules
No idea how you describle heraldic figure in english ^^.
And it's not the English flag but the Normand one.
Two leopard is the French version and the three one is for english-normand islands. I can't remember who decided to switch from two to three and for what reason.
To be exacte the blason is :
léopards passants, d'or, sur champ de gueules
No idea how you describle heraldic figure in english ^^.
And it's not the English flag but the Normand one.
Two leopard is the French version and the three one is for english-normand islands. I can't remember who decided to switch from two to three and for what reason.
The English did it to combine the CoA of Normandy and Aquitaine.
Lion passant guardant = Leopard in Heraldy. But the english call them lions, so Lions it is.
Lion passant guardant = Leopard in Heraldy. But the english call them lions, so Lions it is.
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Uniting the isles sure, but all that would of happened is Scottish representatives being sent to the Kingdom of England parliament. I very much doubt there would of been a name change.
@OP: Yes I think the 'Form GB' event should of changed, available if:
*Scotland is a vassal of England (with Loth and Aberdeen like in GB formation)
*Scotland is under personal union with England
If Scotland has been conquered militarily however it should not be available. But thats me.
Actually the three lion are not lion but leopard.
To be exacte the blason is :
léopards passants, d'or, sur champ de gueules
No idea how you describle heraldic figure in english ^^.
And it's not the English flag but the Normand one.
Two leopard is the French version and the three one is for english-normand islands. I can't remember who decided to switch from two to three and for what reason.
Richard the Lionheart added the third lion. The CoA's wasn't designed for England or anything just the personal CoA of the King. Which later became synonymous with England.
It is quite sad that how little in details EU3 explain about situation in British Isles, despite the fact GB become world superpower in one point in history, they had huge long struggle reaching that point.
You had welsh with constant rebellion until they did mammoth building project of all those castles then there was constant skirmish with scottish forces. There was also another matter of irish rebellion which several times came close to independence including the "Flight of the Irish Earls" which is quite big event in Queen Elizabeth I time.
I could lose count of how many times irish came close to independence until 1921, really. I cant speak on Welsh or Scottish anyway
You had welsh with constant rebellion until they did mammoth building project of all those castles then there was constant skirmish with scottish forces. There was also another matter of irish rebellion which several times came close to independence including the "Flight of the Irish Earls" which is quite big event in Queen Elizabeth I time.
I could lose count of how many times irish came close to independence until 1921, really. I cant speak on Welsh or Scottish anyway
oh Great Britain was achieved by union of two countries rather forceful annexation.
Allright my point exactly (simplified but that's it). Yet noone really cares which is strange :?
The Scots didn't asked for it, they had to accept it (with or without a bribe).
I care about the ping pong issues I am currently getting in HTTT but seem no one care too =(
You must remember that Scotland only survived for so long due to the English being largely unwilling to conquer the place. They invaded and occupied it a few times but their wars with France were always deemed more important.
Had the English monarchy decided that Scotland would join the English domain rather than spending the vast majority of their time and effort trying to make Frence join their domain then I bet the UK would have formed by 1500 or so.
I'd reckon the best bet for ensuring Scottish survival until later on would be to make their provinces richer and provide more manpower and to remove the two English missions of "Conquer Scotland" and "Vassilise Scotland", keeping them off the radar.
Had the English monarchy decided that Scotland would join the English domain rather than spending the vast majority of their time and effort trying to make Frence join their domain then I bet the UK would have formed by 1500 or so.
I'd reckon the best bet for ensuring Scottish survival until later on would be to make their provinces richer and provide more manpower and to remove the two English missions of "Conquer Scotland" and "Vassilise Scotland", keeping them off the radar.
Same for Ireland if possible, it silly to see ireland incredible undervalved in MP and income
Ireland was very weak. England just never got round to taking it over, as France was deemed a more important target.