Kick of the faction in mid of war, stupid mechanic.

[marcelo r. r.]

I'm trying helping the allies, but UK keep boucing send invite to faction, then kick me 3 months later because world tension(but i basically annexed 1 country before war)...

Theres should be some "faction friendliness" factor.

Because is really so dumb keeping adjusting strategies, specially air, we can't use air bases with military access.

 

[MinhowMinhow]

Playing as a non-aligned country, I had capitulated Japan in the allies, in the next day the kicked from faction popup appears. This happened becaused I generated WT from doing this. So basically you could be kicked from doing your job.

 

[marcelo r. r.]

Playing as a non-aligned country, I had capitulated Japan in the allies, in the next day the kicked from faction popup appears. This happened becaused I generated WT from doing this. So basically you could be kicked from doing your job.

wait to see what happen to leftovers from Peace confereces, they inherited all the WT, and get embargoed by all contries of the world lol.

 

[CrasherZZ]

As Japan, the UK invited me to the join the Allies 3 times and kicked me out 3 times. For context, Germany had defeated Russia, with Japan's help but Japan was not in the Axis. Then Japan declared war against Germany and then was invited into the Allies by the UK.

After being kicked out 3 times I declined the 4th invitation. I eventually defeated the Allies as well, after defeating Germany.

 

[Eruth]

Not sure I understand— it is impossible to leave/kick a country from a faction while you are both at war with the same country.

 

[marcelo r. r.]

Not sure I understand— it is impossible to leave/kick a country from a faction while you are both at war with the same country.

its possible by faction leader, i don't know the "rules", to test, just run any non-aligned country, do some war, and then after, declare war on GER, uk will invite u, but will kick u later.

 

[PorkchopSandwiches247]

Yeah, I love how the AI cheats and can kick you out of the faction, but youre not allowed to do it or leave one yourself once a war has started. Even better when your troops are on (formerly) allied land and now theyve completely screwed over themselves and you because those troops get the “stuck on some dudes land” penalties and are useless now.

I really wish there was some consistency on the “cant leave faction while at war” thing.

 

[Dimmie_Dumm]

The faction leader can kick anybody out, unless those are exiles he himself hosts. Leaving a faction by your own whim is however impossible once you and the leader both commit to the same war. It's always been like that iirc.

While the AI reasoning might seem dumb, at least it's clear enough for actual gameplay evaluations. The player too can boot members as he sees fit, and those reasons might make even less sense

What I personally would love to see is addition of war contribution thresholds for such actions; and/or legitimacy for exiles - why a OPM who has contributed a whole lot of nothing can not be kicked out and has to be liberated first?..

 

[Andreu]

Your problem is related with my suggestion Diplomacy & variable geopolitics

The main logic of alliances is interest. They should accept you if they think it will benefit them.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Not sure I understand— it is impossible to leave/kick a country from a faction while you are both at war with the same country.

you usually can't leave but can kick

The faction leader can kick anybody out, unless those are exiles he himself hosts. Leaving a faction by your own whim is however impossible once you and the leader both commit to the same war. It's always been like that iirc.

leaving faction usually isn't possible, but this rule can be magically bypassed with some focus trees. such as ccp joining comintern, then leaving it and joining allies, calling both against player.

 

[marcelo r. r.]

A easy solution would be a separate variable, "war score for the faction".
Basically same war score counting method, but with a condition to change the variable while on a faction.

The "war score for the faction" or "faction friendlyness" will reduce the value of the "distrust variables", like that one u get -1000 for generating WT.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

or you could have the ai just not kick nations from faction mid war, since the gameplay reasons to do that are nuanced at best