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    An "insane" achievement - the most difficult way.

    Settings: Ironman
    Version: 1.29.6
    Diff: VH
    DLC: All (except Emperor)

    Main goal: Get the achievement "True Heir of Timur" asap

    Introduction

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    "True Heir of Timur" (THoT) is:
    • start as one of the five existing vassals of Timurids (Transoxiana, Afghanistan, Fars, Khorasan or Sistan)
    • form the Mughals
    • have every province in the Indian superregion (255) owned or owned by a non-tributary subject
    • before 1550
    This AAR will differ from my former AARs, because I haven't finished the game. I am just some years ahead, so I don't know everything. It is not even clear whether I will get the achievement or not. In former reports I have tried to balance pictures and text. Also, I intended to give the reader a lot of information about the current situation. I might violate or skip these principles for this AAR. I don't know yet.

    When I started the campaign I had no idea about India in EU4. Geography and topography, climate and weather, distribution of religions and powers, unit types etc. I mean, coming in 1550 - 1600 as a European power and conquer land for Trade Companies, yes. But having a strong army plus being ahead in technolgy is very different from starting in that area.
    So I did a couple of test games with Khorasan and Afghanistan. To see what happens, who allies or attacks whom. The first few are real test games, but at some point I do a serious start. However after some years ingame I realize, I missed something substantial. So that game gets aborted and it is labeled as another test game.

    Why Khorasan? Because it is the most difficult in my mind.
    Khorasan holds 4 provinces with a total development of 20, Sistan 3 provinces with 14 dev. Both have a FL of 4. So Sistan is a bit weaker. But Sistan neighbors Afghanistan and is thus closer to India.

    Before thinking about India, Khorasan has to get independence ... next time.
     
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    Timurids

    So let's get independence. I should better say: Let's get the independence the right way.
    Means, I want much more than independence from Timurids. Getting independence costs 23% WS. Thus 77% WS are open for grabbing provinces. At best all for myself.

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    3 vs 29. Not good.
    "Offer alliance" is Transoxiana. Taken. 17 more on our side. But it is not enough. I have tried it, but it is a bad idea. With just AI-Transoxiana vs Timurids and the 3 other vassals, it is bound to lose.
    So one option is to wait for the death of Shah Rukh. This removes a modifier for LD in the subjects for the Timurids. Thus Afghanistan, Fars and Sistan get a LD above 50%, so they are willing to join an alliance with me. All five vassals vs Timurids is a fairly easy win. But the moment I want to take provinces, all the others start crying they want provinces too. If their war participation is 10% or higher. So either I have to give WS away for my allies or I have to betray them. Not optimal either way.
    Option 2 is to get external support. Mamluks are close, but it is not possible to get them on day 1. The gap is 13 reasons. I can get +1 dep rep (+5 reasons) from the Iqta Tax System and another +1 dep rep from an advisor. To get the remaining 3 reasons I can improve relations with Mamluks or/and build my army to 6 regiments. I start to do both.

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    Sunni Khorasan starts with a little problem. 2/4 provinces are Shia, the RU is 50%. I am not worried about provincial unrest, but about the +50% malus for stab cost. Declaring independence will result in a -3 stab hit and I want to get stab back to 0 or +1 soon after.
    Little trick: I send a missionary to a heretic province (with 0 maintenance). After a monthly tick the rebel faction changes to Shia Zealots. Now I simply accept demands. +4 ToHer is what I want. The total ToHer is now +2.8. As the game is friendly it rounds up to +3. Thus the contribution of Heretics to RU is +100%, like that of TF provinces (regardless of ToTF). Problem solved. The price I pay is -3 unrest in TF provinces and the inability to convert for 10 years (-10% missionary strength).

    The screenshot shows great news! Timurids have rivaled back Mamluks. So the Mamluks' opinion about Timurid decreases, which gives me +5 more reasons for "Support Independence". Thus I can get it now.

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    One more piece of luck. Transoxiana got the support of Uzbek. This happens sometimes, but mostly not. I just waited for my first new regiment to come to life. So I can click two missions relying on "being at FL", giving extra morale and first claims on provinces in India. Jaunpur regulary allies Timurids, so I don't want to wait any more second. Flagging everything hostile as vital interest is the last preparation before I start the war.

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    162 vs 55, numbers are overwhelming for our side. Even Chagatai with 11 Condottieri for Uzbek is with me. So we will achieve a complete victory, sooner or later. But it takes time for Mamluks and Uzbeks to arrive. And Transoxiana pritorizes to occupy his cores in the east. We have started the siege of Herat (-35%, capital of Timmy). My general is mediocore (2/3/2/1), rolled from the (old 1.29) estates. But he has at least one siege pip I can contribute to sieges. Timurids and friends flood my lands and sit on my fort (-42%).

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    I intentionally kept the fort in Golestan, so to offer more resistance to a hostile siege. But it didn't work out. All allies came over with troops to my provinces sometime, but then they passed by. Mamluks even to Kabul in Afghanistan. So I had no good moment to challenge the siege of Timurids. I waited until some Uzbeks and Fadls attached to my army for a total of 19 and started an attack. Transoxiana had some troops close by, but they kept on walking away, even when our stack was locked in and a battle was unavoidable. CW is 20, so it was effectively 19 vs 20. But Shah Rukh is a too good general and after 12 days of battle I saw no chance to win and cut the losses. Battles on Mil Tech 3 are so costly in lives.
    My other hopes were also in vain. That this battle would either attract enough allied troops to throw Timmy off or that he would give up the siege to recover from his losses by the battle.

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    We got Herat, but lost Golestan. So now my fort turns against me and I have to resiege a level-3 fort. At least I still have some troops from Fadl attached, so I can bring up the minimum number of regiments for the siege.

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    Mamluks have just left the siege of Kabul. At +21% progress and for no reason. Sigh.
    More interesting is a look at Delhi in India. As usual Sirhind rose up against Delhi, annexed him and (re-)founded Delhi immediately. So now I have a very strong second Delhi (fka Sirhind) holding the key provinces to form Mughals.

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    After a year I got my capital back. 10 WE, about 6 WE from the time of hostile occupation. So I have to pay 3 * 75 = 225 Dip points extra for this episode of the war. Always (somehow) fascinating, how the AI can misplay a 3:1 superiorty war. Chagatai's Condottieri got isolated in Zaranj, the capital of Sistan. A leaderless horde stack in the mountains.

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    The war is over de facto. Remaining hostile troops escaped to Hejaz or somewhere in Egypt. Kabul has fallen, Shiraz (-21%, capital of Fars) and Zaranj (-28%) are under siege.

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    The most important question: What to demand?
    This looks like a halfway solid choice. One province for Transox, six cores up to Kandahar in Afghanistan taken back plus two provinces in the south for a mountain fort and a port. However nothing to border India. So the plan here would be to attack Baluchistan to get borders with Multan and Sindh. But at that stage of the game I can't easily attack anyone with my lousy army.

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    I decide for a way more extreme and unsolid option. As I want Roh, the "door to India", bordering Kashmir plus Multan and with a fort in the highlands, I have to cut off the connection to my capital. So I give Transox one province, take back the cores in Bust and Kandahar plus four provinces in Afghanistan. Badakhshan, most northern, is to have a lifeline. Bordering Transoxiana, I can send troops back the long way to my old Khorasanian territories in case of a rebellion. Moreover it allows Transox to help me in my Indian wars to come. Without needing access from Timurids.
    This choice in the peacedeal is heavily influenced by my tests with Afghanistan, which I am replacing now somehow. But with higher local autonomy and unrest in the provinces, as well as a lot of Adm points I have to spend.

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    Mahmud (1/2/1) got disinherited and the fort in Golestan deleted. I have moved my capital to Kandahar, so I can core the four new provinces in one go. Price: 200 Adm points and a move from the good trade node Persia to the lesser node of Lahore. Jaunpur agreed to a well needed alliance, which I prepared in former years.
    Next expansion? Ladakh is allied to Tsang and Chagatai. Multan is allied to Jaunpur, Chagatai and Nagaur. Kashmir is allied to just Guge, a 3PM in the fog of Tibet. But yes, Delhi fires a warning on me. So he will defend his neighbors, especially Kashmir. Fantastic prospects.

    So, am I stranded at the doors of India? More about it ... next time.
     
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    Kashmir and Delhi

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    Kashmir is the weakest of my new neighbors. But the warning by Delhi put an end to all hopes for a quick expansion. For the moment I can do nothing, but wait for a change in the diplomatic situation.

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    About five years have past. All Afghan provinces got cored and I made Kabulistan a state. I paid the second half of coring cost to make Roh a full core. So I could assign this province with a CoT to the Merchant Guild (Burghers).
    With Abu Said (5/4/6) a new heir arrived with a strong claim. Very good!
    Dehli attacked some minors and annexed Kangra and Sirmur. I allied Multan and Ladakh. All my eyes are on Kashmir and especially Ladakh can become very useful for this. Just because I can use his provinces for my armies.

    But now it is rebel time. My FL is 10, the size of the Afghan separatist faction is 15. At least the game is so friendly to split the rebels' army into stacks that don't exceed my FL. Roh has 10 dev, Jalalabad 11. So I expected the 10-stack to erupt in Jalalabad, but the game tricked me. In anticipation I built my army temporarily to 12 regs, but a single stack couldn't return in time from Ladakh. Khorasan might not be the best starting nation, but the initial ruler is very good: Babur bin Baysunkur (3/5/5). Thus I have always been good in time for Mil Tech, currently I am on 5. Afghanistan is only on 4 and the separatists get his values. That is why I have a big advantage in mil tactics and infantry quality.
    After a few weeks the rebellion is over, costing me about 2k soldiers. Following a consolidation of my troops I am now at 10 full regiments again, exactly the FL.

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    This is the moment I have been waiting for years: Delhi attacks Kashmir.
    Yet my armies are not optimally placed and I have no diplomat present.

    The same scenario happened in my short Afghanistan run. Warned by Delhi and having no war option until the Delhian attack on Kashmir. So I knew this scenario had a good chance to happen. In the end it is the only justification of my peace deal with Timmy in 1448.
    But to be ready for this moment, I had to keep my army at full maintanence for years. So despite some subsidies from Mamluks, I have made some small minus every month. Even in times of peace, for a total of 384 ducats debt. And I haven't even used mercenaries until now.

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    Now I can attack Kashmir as well, because Delhi obviously can't defend him anymore. But this is only the first step of the plan.
    The true war goal is Delhi! I want to vassalize Kashmir to get a defensive war against an isolated Delhi.

    But firstly I have to race against Delhi for the occupation of Margalla and Kashmir (the capital province). Delhi has a core on Margalla and thus I expected him to declare Reconquest for that province (like he did in my Afghanistan run). But he declared Conquest on Kashmir. Now Dehli will march to his wargoal first and not to Margalla. That is why my armies are misplaced. So now I have to send my single stack from Skardu to Kashmir and hope to win the race against Delhi. Otoh Kashmir's 9-stack will sit in Jammu, his third province, on which I have no vision for the moment. So he might toast my single stack and thus open the doors for an occupation by Delhi.

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    I got it! But just because of the tag order, as my single stack and 12 Delhian regiments arrived at the same day. The Kashmiri army has probably run to some of Delhi's provinces southward.
    This is clearly a scenario I would use reloads on. I try to take bad events as best as I can and if I make a mistake, I have to pay for it. But losing such a race just because e.g. my diplomat needs 9 days for return instead of 8. Well, it is all good for now.

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    Delhi got the occupation of Jammu, but I can live with that.
    I called in Ladakh and Multan, both on the promise of land. After securing the occupation of Margalla and Kashmir, I can do this and have them fight for me for free. Next I have to deal with Guge (darkblue in the southeast of Ladakh). But to be sure Kashmir doesn't liberate Margalla again, I attack his army together with Ladakh in Roh. This ensures the Kashmiri army to be send far away to a province of Guge in Tibet.

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    I have bought the map of the Tibetan region from Jaunpur. For a long time Delhi had no access to Ladakh, so I could be sure to reach Ngari (-35%, capital of Guge) first. Ladakh and Multan back my siege, good. After the fall of Kashmir there is always some danger, that Delhi simply peaces out against Kashmir. Unlikely because he thinks, he can make progress against Guge, but not impossible.

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    Delhi flooded Ngari, I got a wall breach. Perfect scenario for an assault on the fort. Delhian soldiers dying to help me. Wonderful.

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    Interestingly if I separately peace out Guge for some money, Kashmir refuses to accept his vassalization. So I have to sign the main peace deal right now. Because of the coring rules of the game, I grab Margalla for myself to have a direct connection to my capital in Kandahar for the provinces, that I want to take over from Delhi next.
    As Kashmir is my vassal now, I become the warleader in a defensive war of Khorasan, Kashmir and Guge vs Delhi (with about 30 regiments). The golden chance for small Khorasan to transform into the feared Mughals.

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    Delhi called in Sindh (12 regs), but his big ally Bengal is too distant to join. At least he should be.
    Before I asked anyone for help, I triple checked, I have flagged everything as vital interest for myself and that my ally has no interest in the key provinces. So now Transoxiana (28 regs) is on my side and also Jaunpur (39 regs), as curiously he has no vital interest in Delhian land. Multan has cores on Delhi, so I keep him out. It could spoil everything, if he occupies something and doesn't transfer the occupation to me. Ladakh's army is not blackflagged, so I don't want to call him in a moment, when his troops get toasted by Delhi.
    Mamluks stopped paying subsidies to me. Thus I kicked him. Seriously, I don't need him for this war, he is too far away to offer help in other wars and I might miss the moment Ottomans border and attack him. So better cancel the alliance now.

    My main army came blackflagged to Kashmir and swiftly achieved a stackwipe of the 6-stack from Delhi, trying to siege my vassal. Exiled armies are not considered dangerous by the AI. Probably because the AI doesn't know about the rules for unblackflagging.

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    Like the Independence War before, this one will be a clear victory. Sooner or later. Besides some chance to spoil something by carelessness, the only question is: How much will this war cost me? Here the Sindh army rushed to my original Khorasan holdings around Golestan. Unfortunately I could only peace him out for 1 ducat, some days after he occupied 2/4 of these provinces. So I will get some devastation, WE and loss of income over there.

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    Not much left to do. The fort in Sirhind has fallen recently, now the capital fort in Delhi. To Garhwal's Condottieri for Jaunpur. And he really transferred the occupation to me. Relief. Delhi sieges my fort in Kandahar (-35%). Well, that is what forts are for. The defensive edict is on and so he will be busy for a long time. Now it is just waiting for Lahore (+42%).

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    Lahore resisted for a long time and just surrendered after 624 days. But thereby I am at 100% WS and can be really greedy. Of course now I want to form the Mughals asap, so I demand the key provinces Lahore and Delhi. The four others are for connection.

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    Deal arranged. Coring can start, done in Dec.62. If nothing interrupts.
    With the seven new Hindu provinces I am at 83% OE and 44% RU. Several separatist factions would like to rebel, the biggest are the Punjabi Separatists with 20 regs. My Fl is 14 and I have 15 loans for a total of 556 ducats debt.

    More about rebels, forming the Mughals and plans for expansion ... next time.
     
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    Multan

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    Indian provinces: Khorasan 7, Kashmir 2 = in total 9/255 for THoT

    Khorasan is displayed in gray blue. Multan has about the same color. Time to change into the dark green of the Mughals, once the cores of Delhi and Lahore are done, to be expected in Dec.62.
    Multan breaks our alliance. Too much AE and too much desire for my new lands, some of his cores. Well, if he thinks that is a good idea.

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    Lets pay acquisation costs. Manpower and reinforcement money for the losses against the rebels. Same scenario as with the Afghan separatists some years ago. The Punjabi rebel faction exceeds my FL of 14. So it breaks out in two stacks. This time the bigger stack appears in the higher deved province of Lahore and I have to fight against my own technology, as Punjab doesn't exist.

    Four weeks later all rebels are dead, but I have to suffer 5.2k casualties. So for the next serious war, I have to hire Mercs.
    Actually I was a bit unlucky for the separatits to erupt at all. Forming a new country removes all separatism, but only in existing cores. I considered coring only Lahore and Delhi. Forming the Mughals and taking their national ideas gives -25% core-creation-cost (CCC) immediately, as it is their "tradition". So I could save some Adm points by delaying the coring of Margalla and the four other provinces. But then I have to carry on unrest from separatism for about 1 1/2 more years. Thus I decided against this and started the coring of all provinces immediately after the finish of the war with Delhi last time. So it was more likely than not, for the Punjabis to not rebel until after the formation of the Mughals. But the progress of that rebel faction was faster than average and so I had to fight this rebellion down. Happens. At least the other factions won't break out.

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    However, now it is time to switch nations.
    This is always a tricky moment, as some things have to be done before, some other things immediately after and some things must not be done at all.
    Especially the (old 1.29) estates will undergo a massive change. The Amirs (Nobility) will be renamed to Mansabdars, the Dhimmi and the Merchant Guild (Burghers) will disappear, the Ulema (Clergy) will stay the same. The Jains will become the new Burghers and two new Indian estates will appear additionally (Brahmins and Rajputs).
    I can abuse this, as I fully core Lahore and give it to the Merchant Guild. So their loyalty is above 60%, resulting in a -10% development cost bonus. But just for the rest of the month.

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    And that is, why it is so helpful. I instantly develop the new capital Delhi from 25 to 43, up to the presence of the Renaissance. This costs about 2000 Mon points, before bonuses. Sigh, I just realize I should have invested 200 ducats to upgrade the CoT to level 2 in Delhi, giving another -5% dev cost.
    Trade: With the move of the capital, also my home trade node moves downstream once more. From the Lahore node to the Doab node. Not really helpful concering my trade income.

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    A lot of more changes by becoming the Mughals:
    Externally I got perma claims on the large Hindustan region, but I lost all non-Indian cores and claims. The truce with Timurids is over in just a few months, in Sep.63. But I haven't seen a viable Reconquest War in the next time. Me and Transoxiana vs Timurids, Sistan, Fars and Haasa. Not a good option, so no reason to hang on the old cores and delay the formation of the Mughals.

    Internally I upgraded the rank from a Duchy to an Empire. Thus I get amongst others +1 diplomat and -0.05 monthly autonomy change. I love the latter a lot. It seems insignificant, but with more and more provinces form conquests it adds up. Because Lahore is now at less than 40% and Delhi at 0% autonomy (plus deved to 43) my FL has risen from 14 to 20.
    Government Reforms: Mughals get the first two for free, "Indian Sultanate" and "Mughal Diwan". I keep the Iqta Tax System and get +3 ToHea, +1 ToTF and +3 state slots. Moreover I can have consorts now, so the big weakness of the Iqta government, to fall into a Regency Council, is gone.
    Giving some influence to the new estate Brahmins gives another +1 ToHea and +20% RU. So my total ToHea is +1.8 and the RU is 104% now.
    Long talk: The country has stabilized a lot.

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    And I even make money! Well, with the army on low maintenance I don't lose more money, is closer to the truth. But at least. Almost 1000 ducats in debt, but that are worries for later.
    What is the next war? Mewat, the violet guy, decided to become the diplo-vassal of Jaunpur. Mewar (green brown) is my rival and my BFF Jaunpur desires one of his provinces. But for some reason he is on friendly terms with Mewar and thus not willing to join a war against. I am going to cancel the alliance with Ladakh. He is allied to Tsang and a tributary of Chagatai (after integrating Yarkand). Multan is allied to Jaunpur, Chagatai and Nagaur. Rosy prospects again.

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    Kalinjar is the yellow OPM. Even AI-Jaunpur can win this on his own.

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    But the war on Kalinjar is just for distracting Jaunpur. So me and Kashmir vs Multan and friends. 24 vs 48 regiments. Usually time is a friend in such underdog wars, alas I can't go beyond five years here. Because on 1.Jan.70 Jaunpur will get "call for peace" in the other war, peace out and join in the defense of Multan. Which would be: game over.
    This war is on the verge of my possibilities. I count on my four forts. Ah yes, I have built another fort for my capital Delhi in recent years. Chagatai (31 regs) is seperated by my lands from the others and it is an AI-horde. My plan is to take care of Nagaur first, then Chagatai and in the end Multan. As I don't get access to Delhi or Mewar to reach Nagaur by myself, I start with scaring Multan and enter his territories.

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    Perfect start! Mewar hates me and rents out a 12-stack Condottieri to Multan. 24 vs 60. Fine!
    The only ace up my sleeve, that I still have is technology. With my great ruler (= point generator) and the Renaissance done, I tech up to Mil Tech 6 one year too early. +2 CW, +0.25 mil tactics, +0.2 fire and +0.3 shock for infantry. Advantage in mil tactics translates into siege ability. I get a discount of -6.2% on my siege phases, while the enemies have to take a malus of +6.2% for theirs. A number of helpful little things.

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    Risky, but I have made the Padishah a general and he got 2 siege pips. So he is in Nagaur (-14%) together with the Kashmiri auxiliary troops. My main army caught a first leaderless 8-stack of Chagatai. Lahore is flat terrain, but it didn't help the horde.

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    The capital fort in Nagaur has fallen, I moved my armies outside to not get blackflagged and peaced the minor out. For money and the cancellation of his alliance with Jaunpur. Multan got a wall breach on Kandahar. I am moving all my troops over there to throw him off. Progress is at +28% and one more phase will be completed until I can get him.

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    The fort held out. Another stackwipe. Seems my army is quite good at the moment. My general gets the trait "Master of arms", appropriate as all my soldiers are infantry.
    Kashmir has fallen into the hands of the enemies.

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    How to make a difficult war even more difficult?
    Make mistakes. The peace deal with Nagaur contained a serious flaw. I should have demanded the cancellation of the alliance Nagaur - Multan as well. Now, both Sindh and Delhi are also in a war with Multan and both are hot for some lands of Multan.
    In the meantime I got two more stackwipes against Chagatai, a 10-stack and a 12-stack. Now I have to rush, to try to correct my mistake. I have to send at least a single stack to all of Multan's provinces to prevent an occupation by the others.

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    Delhi has gone to Nagaur and Sindh either too, or he is waiting a bit to gain morale. Anyway, no one in sight in Multan's territory, so I can reach the last corners. On the way I found some lonely elephants in the north for a quick stackwipe.
    The crossing swords indicate a battle in Shorkot. That is critical, because the 12-stack of Mewar's Condottieri has given up the siege of Lahore and is moving west. Which can only mean, he would like to toast some of my small stacks. So I have to attack him with my main army, although it is a bit disordered. But I have my best general (2/5/2/1 +10% InfCA), while Mewar just has a (1/1/0/3) one. Plus the big asset of Mil Tech 6 vs 5.

    One month later the Mewarian Condottieri are stackwiped in Shorkot. This army won't come back, unless there will be a new Condottieri contract. The critical situation has ended successfully.

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    I started the siege of the province Multan (+14%) for real and let my main army recover a bit. After I killed all Chagatais at some point, he has already rebuild half his army, but they are far away.
    Multan's army moved around for some time, now I caught him in the hills of Kashmir. For a second stackwipe of his entire army and this time he can't order new troops. So I can take my time for the sieges and afterwards I will move over to Chagatai.

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    Multan, 16.May.67. Aha, more of the new Chagatai regiments come over to be annihilated once more. Before that I have already stackwiped an 8-stack and a 5-stack in Kangra, the province south of Ladakh.

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    Dejarat, the level-2 fort of Multan on 18.Oct.67, Kashmir a few days before. One stack already started the siege of Kashgar (-42%), the first mountain fort of Chagatai. My other troops are on the way to support. My constant blows to Chagatai's army seem to encourage my ally Transoxiana. I don't think this is a good war for Transox, as he is on 28/28 regs, while all alone Uzbek has 26/45 regs. But I can't help him for now, as I have enough problems to take care of myself.

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    Half a year later and I get the fort from Chagatai. Initially I intended to demand his cancellation of the tributary status of Ladakh. But this would result in a long truce of mine with Ladakh. So I ask Chagatai for money and the termination of his alliance with Uzbek. Hoping someone from the east will jump on him.

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    Now I can finish my war with Multan. I grab five provinces and vassilize him with his last province in Bahawalpur (3 dev), as I want to use him for a Reconquest on Delhi later. Chagatai accounts for 53k out of the 80k hostile losses in this war.

    A few days later I also end the other war. Jharkhand goes away for money, while I keep my promise to Jaunpur and grant him OPM Kalinjar, with a level-2 fort. Each nation removed from the map is one less nation that can join a coalition.

    3 1/2 years of war this time, but ending with the subjugation of Multan as a nice result, I think.
    What to come next? Time to recover/do nothing or can I find another victim soon? The answer ... next time.
     
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    Mewar and Ladakh

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 12, Kashmir 2, Multan 1 = in total 15/255 for THoT

    Let's have a new perspective: The Mughals and the Indian superregion.
    At the moment the country looks more like an octopus with three arms and we are at best a minor medium power in the subcontinent (FL 20). The big players are Bahmanis, Vijayanagar, Bengal and Jaunpur (FL 40+). While nations like Delhi, Mewar and Malwa are in our league (FL about 25). But it is difficult to find war constellations because of alliances. I want to avoid a situation like last time, fighting a war being outnumbered 1 to 2.5. It was only possible because of the advantage in Mil Tech.

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    Religions: On the province level in the northwest a few are Sunni, in the north around the Himalaya a few are Vajrayana (a Buddhist denomination) and all the rest is Hindu. But on the nation level it is different. It is mostly a mix of Sunnis (Bengal, Jaunpur, Delhi ...) and Hindus (Vijy, Mewar and many minors). Bahmanis is even Shia. This eases the task of conquering the continent somewhat, because AE is mostly dependant on religion.
    Still AE management is very important, I think, so I have taken Diplomatic Ideas as the first group.

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    Cores on the former Multani provinces are created, vassal Kashmir is set on scutage and his integration has begun. For some unknown reasons Jaunpur has given up his friendly attitude towards Mewar.
    So I can go for a new expansion by war. Mewar's allies are the minors in the south, Porbandar in violet and Baglana in red-brown. I call in Jaunpur on the promise of land. So we have enough troops for a clear victory, moreover as all enemies are a bit busy in wars with Paltina (the 2PM south in yellow). All I have to do is to win the race against Jaunpur and his vassal Mewat (the violet 2PM) for some border provinces, because of the mutual vital interest.

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    All critical provinces are already under my control. Mewar has moved to my vassal Multan's level-1 fort in Bahalwapur (-14%) and Baglana sieges my fort in Lahore (-49%). I have rolled some new generals and B. Bhutto (3/4/3/2) is now responsible for sieges. Thus he is in Ranthambore (-21%), the war goal with a level-2 fort, while my main army already started the siege of the level-3 fort in Chittor (-49%).
    Mewat's 6-stack (in rainbow colors) has run all the way down south to the capital of Porbandar. Which is stupid, as Porbandar's 10-stack is next by and Mewat is isolated. Sigh.

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    I have just won the siege of the war goal. Shortly before I could already peace out Baglana. He has no real fort, so occupying his provinces and a pseudo-siege of his capital was enough, to make him giving me some money and leave the war. Mewat's army did indeed "find" Porbandar's. Best news is, his stack survived.

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    Collateral damage of a war: Lahore got occupied, as well as Bahalwapur. But in the meantime I got Chittor on 15.Sep.70 , the second and last fort of Mewar. So I just have to get Porbandar out. Unfortunately the minor refuses any surrender, until I take either his capital on the coast or his level-2 fort in Girnar. Both sieges are underway and at -42%.

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    Several months later. Kashmir got integrated. I have boxed in Mewar's army in the west. He can't get out without attacking my stack, which he won't do. But the capital of Porbandar has just fallen to my siege, so the war is over anyway.

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    Firstly Porbandar had to annul all his alliances in addition to money and war reps.
    Seven new provinces is what I demand from Mewar now. Ranthambore, Bundi and Hadotti are important for "Gwalior and Ranthambore", one of the Mughals' opening missions. Chittor has a fort in the hills and Mewar is a gold mine, the only one in India.
    I would have liked to take one more province in the west to border some of the minors. However, for the first time in this campaign I am stopped by AE. All the time I have been so friendly to Baluchistan, but the unthankful guy just rivaled me. So with Timmy and the minor Bundelkhand I am already on three for a possible coalition. One more grab would "attract" more Hindu minors, so not.
    But I shouln't complain. Two forts, two CoT and the gold mine are very good gains from this war.

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    Not much later my armies (24 regs) are already in position for the next war. I still have the Mil Tech advantage of 6 vs 5 here for now. Ladakh is a Buddhist nation and the war is only about 9 development, so I shouldn't have problems with AE. Chagatai is still busy with the old war, Transoxiana declared on him in Dec.67. Which my ally is bitterly losing. Tsang is separated from Ladakh by the territories of Guge. My plan is simply to take all war participants separately.

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    Ladakh's army is gone forever. Tsang is in the war, but for some reason Chagatai is not. But Ladakh is still his tributary, so the overlord might join whenever he likes. I don't know. Winter is coming. So I will wait for spring before transferring my army to Tsang through the mountains of Himalaya to the artic provinces with severe winters. Attrition might be a more dangerous enemy in this war than hostile forces.

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    Chagatai is still not in the war, so I walk over to Tsang. His army is only 17 regs and he has no real fort. Just almost everything is low supply arctic mountain provinces. So I am careful.

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    As usual enemies prefer to run away instead of defending in favorable terrain. So I can spread out a bit.

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    Transox is finally completely defeated by Chagatai and Uzbek, so loses a lot of his lands. Chagatai has upgraded to Mil Tech 6 and I am worried about him joining the war against me now.

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    So I quickly peace out Tsang for a little money and now Ladakh for his total annexation. That war was surprisingly fast and easy. The non-participation of Chagatai wasn't planned. Three more low-deved provinces for me and the most northern part of India is under my control.

    I get a bit nervous about my allies. Jaunpur is good, but Transox is an uncertainty now. Timmy might attack him, which might be good for me or maybe not. But it is unlikely that Transox can help me against anyone, so at some point I will have to cancel this alliance. For now I keep him.
    But I arrange two new alliances: Baluchistan and Kutch.
    Baluchistan had to drop me as a rival immediately after my gains from Mewar and he became friendly again. Timmy won't attack him, as they share Haasa as an ally.
    Kutch is a Hindu OPM southwest of Mewar. The tooltip at the diplomatic interaction says, he would be willing to become my vassal. Though it is a long way to have his opinion to be +190 on the Mughals. But it is a chance to get more provinces peacefully, so why not. Kutch is also allied to Vijy, so I have no chance to attack him anyway.

    Maybe I have plans with both of my new allies for a next war? Let's see ... next time.
     
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    Malwa and Sindh

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 24, Multan 1 = in total 25/255 for THoT

    Octopus arms extended.
    Shortly after our last war with Ladakh, Malwa together with Sindh declared on weakened and friendless Mewar.

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    I haved waited until the cores on the former Mewari provinces were done, developed the gold mine in Mewar from 3 to 7 and set Malwa as a new rival.
    The offical goal for the new war is Bundelkhand, the blue OPM between Jaunpur and Malwa. But my true target is Malwa. I can't directly attack him, because of his alliances with Bengal, Sindh, Baglana and Bundelkhand. So I have to take him as secondary participant. Means, taking provinces from him will cost +100% score and +50% AE. Thus I can't be too greedy.
    As usual, more important than fighting the enemy is to check the provinces of vital interest of my BFF Jaunpur and his vassal Mewat. Then to ensure I get the occupation of these provinces. I want the two provinces Gird and Chanteri absolutely, because of the Mughals mission "Gwalior and Ranthambore", giving perma claims on eight more areas.

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    One Malwani army has gone north to siege my fort in Derajat (-28%) and all other enemies are busy in the other war with Mewar in the west. So I sit on Gird (-28%), have occupied some neighboring provinces and have successfully persuaded Jaunpur to do the dirty work of occupying the war goal (-35%) and the jungle fort in Mandla (-49%) in the southeast. Especially ugly during the monsoon season, from June to September.
    As I don't see any resistance from hostile troops, my main army (16k) and its split offs are liberating Mewari provinces from Malwani occupation.

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    My main army moved from the province Mewar southwest to Patan and thereafter stackwiped Bundelkhand's weak 9-stack north in Barmer. Now Malwa's leaderless (sigh) main army, who was sieging the capital fort in Gorwar. Once more I rolled new genearals and A. Beg (3/6/4/1) is very competent for battles this early in the game. The second Malwani army has given up the siege of Derajat and moved over to help. Then AI-Malwa realised this would be futile and stopped one province away.
    While the first stackwipe in Barmer cost almost no men (500), this battle caused 3.3k casualties for me. Maybe too much, as I can't rescue Mewar anyway. Because I can't touch Sindh's troops, who will win the war for Malwa.

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    The key fort in Gird has surrendered. I siege Malwa's level-1 fort in Mandu (-21%), while Jaunpur has taken on the task of besieging the fort of Rewakantha (-35%) in hilly terrain. Again I liberate a Mewari province. But that is almost useless, as Malwa can demand whatever he wants, the moment Sindh wins the siege of Gorwar.
    My main army (14k) has gone north to Cholistan, in the area of Multan. The progress of the Multani separatists was on 90% for several months. Reaching home territory I intended to enable the rebel suppression mode, which would have resulted in the decline of the rebel faction. However shortly before my army arrived, the rebellion broke out. I am not scared of the rebels, nevertheless my army will just watch and wait.

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    The war Malwa - Mewar ended. Malwa got three provinces, Sindh even six and Mewar is reduced to a 3PM. The remaining Malwani army plus some reinforcements (13 regs) has attacked Jaunpur in Rewakantha and I came over to help with some troops and my wonderful general. So this attempt got repelled and our sieges can continue. Mandla, the fort in the very east has fallen on 5.May.74, so the rest of Jaunpur's troops are moving over.

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    That is why I didn't attack the rebels with my army. I wanted to use my allies' and subject's troops for this job, while being attached to single stacks of mine. As Sindh and Delhi closed the door on us by not giving mil access, I had to go the long way through Lahore, coming from the north. But the detour was worth it, I lost only 500 soldiers.

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    Mandu, 21.Apr.75.
    Several months later, new rebels, same trick. Against the 21-stack of Mewari separatists I (ab)use my friends again. AIs don't consolidate, so Jaunpur's regiments are incomplete and vulnerable in this battle.
    Three weeks later the rebels are dead and we have to suffer 11.6k losses, but me just 900. As I can do this abuse only during a war, I would have waited for this second rebellion anyway. But the completion of the last siege is still missing, to get from Malwa all I want.

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    Rewakantha is done, so let's negotiate with Malwa for a separate deal.
    I take only the two provinces I need for the mission. But I demand Malwa breaking his alliance with Sindh and his humiliation. Which gives nice PP and a second age objective. AE is fairly harmless this time.

    A day later I transfer the occupation of Mahoba to Jaunpur and demand the full annexation of OPM Bundelkhand to end the main war too. Giving me a few favors with Jaunpur and one more minor Hindu nation is removed from the map.

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    Just six weeks later and it is already time for the next war, with Sindh. At the end of the last war my remaining troops were on hostile territory, they got black-flagged. So I just had to walk the short distance from Patan to Cholistan, to have all my armies activated and in position on the borders of Sindh.

    Yes, Timmy. Long time no see. After integrating Afghanistan and Sistan, the Timurids still hold Fars as a vassal. Troop numbers are: Sindh 15/19, Timurids 34/35, Fars 12/13, while my Mughals are on 24/28. Ajam in Persia is completely losing in two different wars. Otoh to Mazandaran and otoh to Timurids and Fars. So Timmy should be still a bit busy in their west, but as he has quite a number of cores on Ajam, he will gain strength once he ends that war.

    Kutch has won his war against Porbandar some time ago and took back his two cores. So he has grown from a OPM to a 3PM. He is still willing to become my diplo-vassal, provided his opinion of me raises to +190 and I can overcome the "distance of borders" modifier.
    I will call both him and Baluchistan into the war, but just a little later. When I will be sure to get the control on the provinces, my friends would like to keep for themselves. Every time the same trick: Mark everything hostile as vital interest, call in friends on the promise of land, but deny them any occupation of key provinces, take everything you want in the peace deal and everyone is fine.

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    Sindh panicked and rushed with his entire army to Kalat, the mountain fort of Baluchistan. No good idea, as Baluchistan is in the war now and so I got the terrain bonus, being the defender of the fort. Plus Sindh not being on max morale, having a weak general and being behind in Mil Tech. All added up to the stackwipe.

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    I have organized my troops. Sindh is completely occupied, except the coastal level-1 fort in his capital Thatta, which I am working on. Kutch is called in and I have most friendly troops attached to one of my stacks. So I am walking north. Occupying the east of Timurids, Afghanistan including the level-3 fort in Herat, should be enough to get Timmy out of the war.
    Mazandaran peaced out against Ajam. He gave Timmy four of his cores for free. Sigh. But at least Timmy and Fars now have to siege down Qom, the new capital of Ajam to finish their war.
    My original holdings around Golestan became prey of the Timurids. But meanwhile I hold a lot of development, so the occupation of a few low dev provinces no longer results in a massive WE. Contrary to the humble beginnings of Khorasan. Greedy Timmy doesn't transfer his occupations to Sindh, preventing the warleader from hiring Mercs to rebuild some of his lost army.

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    The Sindh-part of the war is done. A first 17-stack of Timurids shows up in Baluchistan. But he can't reach my occupations in Sindh, because of the ZOCs from the fort in Kalat. Well, he could use his navy for a naval invasion, but ... AI.
    Thus I can concentrate on the siege of Herat (-42%). Actually my biggest stack is in Roh, waiting for the Ladakhi separatists. This is a problem of the [1.29] attachment system. I can only signal my desire for my friends to attach to my armies. It is not possible to say, just 12k stay in Roh and the rest please go to Herat and attach to another stack over there.

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    So Timurids and Fars finished their war with Ajam and they got a lot more provinces. Timmy is now on 46/49 regs, a bit worrying. But most of his troops are in Baluchistan, without a concept, what to siege. More running back and forth, like chickens.

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    I could get Herat already with the next tick on 30.Jan.77. However Timmy refuses a white peace for now. Hence I am moving west with my troops to occupy some more provinces. Timurids' progress in Baluchistan: almost zero. But he seems to move his stacks back to his homelands. So I am careful not to split my armies in too many weak stacks.
    In Kashmir I have solved the problem of the overloaded stack with a little trick, using attrition to make the 10-stack of Kutch detach and come over to the west.
    A lot of neutral troops are moving around in my lands, as Delhi and Bengal are in a war with Doti and other minors.

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    Instead of attacking me, Timmy preferred to liberate some desert provinces. And five days ago he got out for a handful of ducats, a +3% peace deal. The Ladakhi rebels have erupted in Baltistan and I can let my friends bled again to fight this down. Very fine.

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    The rebels are killed, so let's see the peace deal. Sindh is on 105% province score cost, so I can't annex him fully. Because of the rewards from the mission on Malwa, I got perma claims on the three provinces in the east. With the four provinces in the west I get a CoT, secure the western border of India and get my first coastal one this game. A port, sailors, navy, omg.
    The truce will last longer than 10 years. Thus breaking the alliance Sindh - Timurids might be useless. But I think it is a chance to isolate Sindh, so I demand it and war reps too. Time will tell.

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    Some of my troops got stranded on "Khorasan island" after the peace with Timmy. Including the 7 Mercs, I had hired for several years. They are disbanded now, as for the next war I plan to have some cannons. This will be after 1479, the year of Mil Tech 7.
    So I use a little trick to make the 2-stack walk through the territories of Timurids without mil access. First I ask Transoxiana for access and walk to Kopet Dag. Next I immediately return to Bojnord and cancel the access. One more time I march to Kopet Dag. Although I don't have the access anymore, I can do so because of the rule for the return province. Result: I black-flag myself. Which is what I want, as now my 2-stack can pass Timmy's lands freely to my mainlands in India.

    Diplo-vassalization of Kutch: With the new provinces I have overcome the problem of "distance of borders". But now I can't get his opinion to +190, because of "border friction", "neighboring different religion" and other modifiers. But I don't give up. Some modifiers like AE are ticking down, or I might get an event like "Friends in Need".

    Next war should be with Delhi again. But I will wait at least two years for my new provinces to be cored.
    We will see, what is going to happen ... next time.
     
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    Delhi (2nd)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 33, Multan 1 = in total 34/255 for THoT

    Octopus now with five arms, or better called tentacles, I guess.
    The truce with Delhi is over, but I want to wait until coring of the latest conquests is done in Sep.79. Which involves a new Mil Tech in Jan.79. Moreover I will need my BFF Jaunpur, who is somewhat depleted of manpower. Well, I think, I used him too much in wars and against rebels in recent years.
    Speaking of rebels, I got my first age ability and picked "Feudal de Jure Law", giving me the state edict to lower unrest by -5. Together with the "autonomous rebel suppression" for my armies, I should be able to control most of the rebellions now myself, before they break out.

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    The old Padishah is dead, Abu Sa'id is the new Padishah. The legitimacy has dropped somewhat to 75, but with fantastic 15 Mpoints a month, that is a small price. His trait is -0.05 monthly autonomy change. Which is also very helpful, to get more of everything from conquered provinces. His brother is the new heir, coming with the average of 9 Mpoints.
    Bad news for the planned war from Delhi: Despite debts his ally Chagatai is now willing to defend Delhi, in addition to Sindh and Bengal. That is probably too much for me and Jaunpur.

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    Timmy my friend!
    Delhi dishonoring the defense of Chagatai means, this alliance is broken. So my war against Delhi is now manageable. I immediately start the preparations. After taking Adm and Mil Tech 7 I order the first 8 cannons. FL is 29 and after the dispensation of the Mercs, I can now complement my army of 21 regular infantry with artillery.

    1479 is the year that changes warfare crucially in EU4. Sieges are the most important factor in almost all of the wars. Time for sieges on level-2 forts is reduced from 9-18 months to 3-9 months with full cannon bonus now, approximately. Moreover: The AI is bad with battles, but even worse with sieges. So winning wars by outplaying the AI in siege vs siege becomes more effectively after 1479. That is why I like to invest strongly into cannons, even for the price of more loans. And I like to hold several forts, to give the AI nuts to crack, which he can't in due time.

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    I declare Reconquest for Multan. As now seen many times before: I call in Jaunpur on the promise of land. He would like to have four provinces north of my capital Delhi. So the job of my 9-stack on Jaunpur's territory is, to make his army attached, to not allow him to enter critical provinces before me. Meanwhile Jaunpur has integrated his 2PM vassal Mewat.
    Numbers: Bengal 45/46, Delhi 26/26, Sindh 6/12 and Jeypore (vassal of Bengal) 6/6 regs. Jaunpur 31/43, Mughals 29/30 and Multan 3/3 regs.
    Simple plan: First Sindh, then Delhi and after that let's see what Bengal is doing in the south of Jaunpur. Thus the majority of my troops including cannons is ready to jump on Sindh in the west.

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    Sindh's army is killed, the level-1 fort in his capital Khaipur is under siege by 5 cannons and my 2-siege-pip general for an early +21% progress. Jaunpur has hired 14 Mercs to overcome his manpower problem. Delhi's armies have fled to the north, I am sieging his capital in Upper Doab (+7%) with 3 cannons and Sirhind (-42%) with pure infantry, including the 3-stack of my vassal Multan.
    In the south Bengal has started two sieges and occupied some unfortified provinces. But let's compare the progress: Me on Khaipur +21%, Bengal/Jeypore on Jaunpur -49%.
    Oh yes, Hadoti separatists have broken out with an 8-stack, fairly small. I will take care of them someday, they will be stopped by one of my forts anyway.

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    I have already finished all my three sieges: Upper Doab 27.Feb.80, Khaipur 6.Apr.80 and Sirhind 18.Apr.80, with the cannons transferred from Upper Doab. While I was sieging, Delhi's armies turned around, went south and used the Himalayan Hills (Sirmur, Garhwal, Kumaon) in the east to bypass my troops.
    The 6-stack escaped, but I have been able to put the 20-stack into battle now. Ah yes, I have the Tech advantage over all the others for the moment. Mil Tech 7 also gives +0.25 Mil tactics, that is why the values on the battle UI are highly in my favor. But that is a bit misleading, as I participate only with a single stack in the battle. One attached and another supporting army of Jaunpur are doing the work, while my general G. Nazirun (2/5/2/1) is in command.

    Eight days later the battle ends in a stackwipe, even without additional reinforcements from my side. Although we have outflanked Delhi and he had just a horrible general (0/3/0/0), the outcome is a bit surprising. Seems Jaunpur's army has some quality too.

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    Some days ago, on 21.Jun.80, the Indian reformation broke out: Sikhism. Three of my/Multan's provinces have been force converted to Sikh. I don't care, as Sikhs are heathens as well as Hindus are, seen from the perspective of a Muslim Padishah.
    Now I take care of the Hadoti separatists in Gird. Jaunpur is also liberating a province from the occupation of his rebels. Bengal is sieging the level-3 fort in Jaunpur, still on -49% progress, so no reason for a rushed attack here.
    The most interesting aspect of the screenshot is the movement of Delhi's 6-stack from Gorakhpur (yellow striped) north to Bahreich. Because of the fort in Jaunpur and the ZOC movement rules, Bengal from the south and Delhi from the north have just two provinces, they can reach both, Jaunpur and Gorakhpur. Means, Delhi is moving his stack out of the protection of his allies.

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    And he did it! I just had to wait until the Delhi 6-stack was locked in and then I could snap it. See the 15.3k-army of Bengal? It has given up the siege of Jaunpur and is moving to Gorakpur. Trying to help Delhi in a province, he can't reach, I suppose.
    Actually this is a tragedy. ZOC rules are difficult, human players understand them somewhat. But the AI has no understanding of it at all. Leading to stupid mistakes like this.

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    The court gets shaken again. 1 1/2 years after his inthronisation beloved Abu Sa'id has died already, at the early age of 29. Now his brother Bahadur Shah is the new Padishah. Whom I wanted to get rid of in the long run, by making him a general. 9 Mpoints is acceptable, especially 5 Adm points per month. He has raised the legitimacy to 100 again, good. But his trait is -20% improve relations, bad. The passive AE reduction is +2 at the end of each year. Improve relations modifiers also alter this. Meaning I get 0.4 less ticking down AE with every nation. I am not amused.
    The new heir Shir Shah, another younger brother, is even worse with just 8 Mpoints.

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    Half a year later in the war. No more battles, it is Bengal and Jeypore just retreating. After liberating some Jaunpuri provinces, now the level-3 fort in Gauda blocks further movement of our armies. The siege is on +35% after just two phases, I have upgraded to 10 cannons meanwhile.
    I am not in a hurry to peace out, because I want to trigger the Golden Era for the 10% power cost discount, before coring new provinces. To get a third age objective, I need just one more of my province to embrace the Renaissance, which should happen in a few months. Well, I will have to unstate some areas for one day, because the age ability only cares about provinces in states. This will cost me two full cores in the Kashmir area, which I got from the integration of my former vassal. Just a handful of Adm points, if I want to fullcore them later again. In general I am very reluctant with creating full cores. I prefer to preserve my Adm points for new provinces and technology. Just some very important provinces like Lahore or the gold mine in Mewar are full cores, most of my provinces are territorial cores.

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    After the fall of Gauda on 7.Feb.81, in just 105 days, me and Jaunpur could occupy several wealthy unfortified provinces. Now Bengal is willing to give me a lot of money and to end his alliances with Delhi and Malwa.

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    The Golden Era is enabled and I decide to fully annex Sindh, despite him being a secondary participant. Because I own now all provinces with Sindhi culture, the special Mughal ability automatically accepts this culture sub-group. Which lowers unrest, reduces coring time and removes the penalty for tax-income, etc.

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    Multan gets his three cores back. Plus I take Sirhind and Doaba (for a mission and wealth), Merta (for connection) and three provinces in the Himalayan Hills to get a border with Doti. The AE list is harmless, just Timmy and the minor Porbandar.
    Oh, Ming troops on my northern border. He wants to subjugate Chagatai to become his tributary. Not very difficult, after Timmy is crashing Chagatai already.

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    The cannon strategy worked wonderfully.
    After this war I am 2800 ducats in debt, but this is "just" 33% of my total possible debt. So no reason for cheers, but no reason to worry much either.

    Concerning my ally Kutch in the west: He is winning his war against Baglana and he would still like to become my diplo-vassal. But I am not able to get his opinion to +190 yet. Because of the AE caused by the grabbing of Sindh, we are in a about the same situation as some years before. I have to wait, but I still have the chance to vassalize him.

    The next war is to come for sure. When and against whom, we will see ... next time.
     
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    Indian provinces: Mughals 42, Multan 4 = in total 46/255 for THoT

    Some changes: I have disinherited Shir Shah and got a Padishah Begum (Queen) after a RM from Jaunpur, Bibi Raji (5/4/5). She is very good, way better than her husband. Wouldn't be bad to have her as regent. Diplomatically I canceled the alliance with Transoxiana and could arrange new ones with Vijayanagar and the Ottomans. Seems, the Mughals are big enough to be taken seriously by major nations now. Also I set Bahmanis as new rival.
    Jaunpur has revoked his guarantee of Limbuwan and instead guaranteed my neighbor Doti. Hmm, is my BFF trying to prevent my expansions?

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    Next war, in the Himalaya region. Dang is the yellow OPM. His ally Kathmandu, the 2PM west of Limbuwan, brings in Jharkhand. My army is not in position, right? Well, my troops are still busy with rebel suppression in Central India. Coring of four provinces from the last war with Delhi is also not completed yet.
    I just realised I can start this war a bit earlier than initially planned. Jaunpur will do the first work for me. He is interested in Dang, but as this is the wargoal, he will transfer the occupation to me. He is also interested in some of Jharkhand's provinces, but I will peace this nation out separately. Jaunpur has no interest in Kathmandu, but I do have.
    For the moment it might not be clear, what the idea of this war is. Military wise it is not a problem against the three minors, of course.

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    After all an 18-stack (13/0/5), about half of my army, is on the way to toast Kathmandu's 9-stack. Jaunpur in the very south of Jharkhand has decided to avoid a battle 15 vs 12 and is returning. His other armies are sieging the war goal (-21%). With way more troops than necessary, getting a lot of attrition for no reason. Supply limit is 18, a typical AI-siege.

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    After two stackwipes on Kathmandu, I have sent my cannons to the sieges of the remaining capital forts. +35% progress on both, so probably not long until the jobs are done. Jharkhand's army is still alive, it is somewhere in Bengal's lands.
    Ming has taken two provinces from Chagatai and made him his tributary. He is not bordering me, but he gave me the honor to be his exclusive rival. Probably he can't see other eligible nations through "terra incognita".

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    So here is the point of the first war. It is this second one on Doti and friends.
    First I am circumventing Jaunpur's guarantee for Doti. Then, if I first grab the provinces of 2PM Dotti and OPM Gorkha (light green, east of Doti), I can thereafter take the provinces from Dang and Kathmandu by the other war. Because of the coring rules, here connection to owned provinces.
    To get Gorkha into the war I declare OPM Tirhut (green, southeast of Gorkha) as co-belligerent. This will also bring in Garjat, who is the 2PM, also in a kind of olive-green, east of Jharkhand. No accident I waited for the completion of the siege on Jharkhand, so my troops can directly attack Garjat's 7-stack.
    The last new war enemy is Idar, the 4PM in blue, on the Indian west coast, southwest of Malwa in the Gujarat region. Visible e.g. in the picture one before.

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    Neither Gorkha, nor Garjat are in the war yet. But they could stil join, as their alliances with Tirhut are intact.
    After the opening stackwipe on Doti in June, I started the siege over there, which has just ended. Instead of waiting for Garjat, I removed my 17-stack, including 7 Multani regiments, to the north to grill Tirhut's 8-stack. Now I can likewise siege his capital province, Champaran (-14%).
    With most of my troops busy in the east, I just had a 7-stack in the west. Not enough to attack Idar's 9-stack, who has passed some of my provinces to siege my fort in Derajat (-21%). Well, my vassal Multan helped him by asking Kutch for Mil access. Sigh. I have ordered a 5-stack over from the east, but now I go for a complete siege of Idar, before possibly attacking his army.

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    Champaran, 23.Oct.84, after just 26 days. Half of my troops are still waiting in the east for signs of Gorkha or Garjat to enter the war. Meanwhile I have peaced out Jharkhand for money in the other war.
    In the west Idar has made good progress (+14%) on Derajat, his general has very respectable 4 pips for siege. I have rolled also a better siege general with R. Nagar (4/2/1/3) and he is on Ahmadabad (-7%), Idar's capital. After the arrival of my 5 cannons from Kutch, the siege progress will increase significantly.

    On 12.Nov.84 a new Heir was born: Rafi' (2/4/5) with a strong claim. 11 Mpoints is good, although he lacks some quality in Adm points. I keep him.

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    The fort in Derajat resisted one more phase and I have attacked the Idari army with pure infantry. I could have let him siege on. Even if he wins a siege of a fort, it is no big deal. But I think my army is quite strong and manpower is ok, so I can take such battles now.
    Idar has survived the battle, but he has nowhere to go to and he will have to stop in the neighboring province of Bhakkar. So I will finish him off with refreshed forces in April.

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    Idar's capital has fallen into my hands on 19.Apr.85 and so I signed a sepearte peace with him. Besides war reps, Idar lost his alliance with Vijy.
    My beloved ally Kutch: I finally made it to +190 opinion. Using everything I could, a RM for 5 legitimacy and a scornful insult on his rival Porbandar for 5 prestige. The breakthrough is now +15 opinion for "forced other to give up claim on us". That is Idar, by one of my demands in the peace deal.
    So I get five more provinces for THoT by accepting Kutch's irresistable offer to become my diplo-vassal. A very nice gain as a side effect from these wars. I had to fight harder for these provinces by diplomacy than for others in many wars by military.

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    Time to end both main wars now. Gorkha and Garjat never joined. Without the connection by the province Gorkha, I had to find an inferior alternative to grab the two provinces of Kathmandu.
    Thus I already force-vassalized Tirhut and finished the second war by fully annexing Doti with his two provinces.
    Now I can take Dang and the two provinces from Kathmandu. Because I can core adjacent provinces to a core of my subject on the same continent. Coring rules.

    The AE list isn't getting better. Now it is three with Timurids, Porbandar and Gorkha. The rest is on a truce or will not exist anymore. Not the big Muslim nations, the small Hindu minors are those to watch and keep out of a possible coalition, it seems.

    The non-participation of Gorkha and Garjat is the same problem I had in 1471 with Chagatai, when I declared on his tributary subject Ladakh. I know, calls to arms for allies of co-belligerents might take months, but this non-participation is simply frustrating. It upsets my strategical plans.
    In 1471 I expected Chagatai to join, which would have made that war more difficult and longer. But otoh I could have helped my at that time good ally Transoxiana indirectly. Even when I count the incident of 1471 as an ease for me, now I am clearly handicapped.
    I replayed the war on Doti, starting in Jun.84, twice, to see if e.g. my siege of Tirhut influenced the non-participation. No, Gorkha and Garjat never joined the war. It is not that they were close to dishonoring the defense of Tirhut because of loans or low manpower. The CtAs simply didn't get send.
    For this war I found a workaround, but what about next time I want to co-belli someone? I can only stop the game, start a test war and see, if all nations with a green check really join. Otherwise I have to look for a different war scenario. Hmm.

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    Back to the game. Look at the coring cost reduction, almost 90%!
    In Oct.84 I accumulated sufficent Adm points to take Administrative as second idea group and fill out the first two ideas, for the famous "Adaptability" (-25% CCC). Land aquistation is the Iqta tax choice for -5%. Coring time is also reduced nicely by most of the modifiers. Actually the effect of CCR is capped at 80%, 1 point per dev for territorial cores, but still. Yes, I can't core Kathmandu atm, but have to wait for the core of the southern neighbor province Makwanpur to be finished. Because of the missing link Gorkha. Well.

    The truce with Mewar will be up in May.86 and after the vassalization of Kutch I can take some AE in the west again, maybe. Or not?
    Let's see ... next time.
     
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    Indian provinces: Mughals 47, Kutch 5, Multan 4, Tirhut 1 = in total 57/255 for THoT

    Octopus Mughals now with a large Himalayan tentacle.

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    The truce with Mewar has ended, I have everything in position. With every conquest I can increase my FL somewhat, my army is now 40 (30/0/10) out of 40 regs.
    Porbandar (violet) has just eaten up Idar completely. The later was with no friends and no army. My responsibility, I like it if minors are removed from the map. Porbandar has no other allies, so I can safely co-belli him.
    Actually I would have liked to have 3PM Baglana (dark red/brown, east of Porbandar) in this war too, but he has debts of 350 ducats for 17 loans and is far away from honoring any CtA. But I have a claim on him, so I might declare on him soon afterwards.

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    All hostile armies got removed in a few days. In Mewar, Gorwar with the capital fort has been occupied faster than the two other unfortified provinces. Porbandar has a level-2 fort in the hills of Girmar, besides his level-1 fort at the coast (+7%).

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    Not much to say about this war, as all the work is done in less than half a year.
    Besides: The cannons are to blame, I win my wars too quickly now. The AE-list is getting longer and longer. I could sit on the war for something like two years and then take more. Instead I decide to peace out now and take less. Mewar completely, but only the three ports of Porbandar, as I want to build some kind of navy, at least slowly. Unfortunately all coastal provinces are already on increased autonomy, so I don't get much out of them for some time.

    Coalitions: My general approach is pretty conservative: Simply avoid them. Even before declaring war on me, a coalition is pretty nasty. Because after the formation it is a kind of an extra defensive pact for all the members.
    To form a coalition it needs four countries with opinion lower 0, AE of at least -50 and not having a truce with me. Looking at the list above, this is Baglana, Timurids, Gorkha and Bahmanis. That is four. There is one more condition, I am pretty sure about. The country must be at peace. Timmy is not, as he is trying to help Haasa against Mushasha and Qara in an offensive war, which is not looking good for Timmy.
    That is why I take this peace deal. In addition Bahmanis will be above -50 AE after two yearly ticks, so in Jan.88.

    Another important condition is: The possible coalition "must pose a threat". That is vague, so I have never really tested it. Following the experience of some players, the FL is important for this, maybe all decisive. So only if the sum of the FLs of all possible coalition members is higher than that of me, my subjects and any of my allies willing to defend, a coalition might form.
    I think, at some point in this game I have to go beyond my traditional approach and have to risk, whether the AIs think a possible coalition would cause a threat to me or not. We will see. It is clearly helpful that I already have big allies with the Ottomans, Vijayanagar and Jaunpur.

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    Pffft, that's for the plan to attack Baglana next.
    I was "just" waiting until Mar.88 for the three cores of Porbandar to be finished. Baglana has a core on two of these provinces as well. So far he was only allied to Andhra (in another kind of green), reduced to a 4PM, in the southeast of Bahmanis. I think Vijy is more protecting Baglana against Bahmanis than against me, but the result is: I have to forget about this minor in the west for now.
    However, one problem from earlier years has not occurred for some time: Since I have the Feudal de Jure edict, I could prevent any more rebellions to form so far.

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    So let's go to the east again for the next war, on Gorkha.
    Jaunpur is meanwhile guaranteeing Delhi and Limbuwan, but he can't guarantee Gorkha. Yes, it is Gorkha, the missing link from the last episode. Tsang also holds two provinces on the Indian sub-continent. One north of Gorkha and the other east of Limbuwan. Greedy as ever, I would also like to have the two provinces of Assam (red). Which will pose a problem with the connection of provinces again. But first let's do the work in this war.

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    The enemies have no real forts. Palpa, Gorkha's captial, has surrendered already and some of my single stacks are flooding Tsang. Gorkha's 6-stack and the main 11-stack of Tsang are not more. The 10-stack of Assam and the 3-stack of Tsang, to be seen here, is all, what is left of hostile troops.

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    A lot of pop-ups, something has happened.
    First my progress in the war: After just a little rest, I attacked the two stacks of Assam and Tsang and eliminated them on 16.Aug.88. The two remaining capitals, Lhasa (+35%) and Assam (+7%), are under siege and I have occupied almost all of the rest. Tsang has rebuild a 3-stack in the northern province of Nagchu, but some of my troops are already on the way to deal with this last flame of resistance.
    Now for the news of a war declaration. Sadiya, the 2 PM (one more tag in olive-green) east of Asssam, declares on Tsang. Obviously opportunistic, because Tsang lost his entire army against me. Sadiya can count on his two minor allies Manipur and Tripura, while Tsang is defended by Mong Yang and Limbuwan. And the participation of Limbuwan forces a quick reaction of mine.

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    I have to declare my war on Limbuwan now, which I would have liked to do a bit later. But the 10-stack of Sadiya might come to the idea to occupy something in Limbuwan. As I want every Limbuwani province myself, I have to reach all of them before Sadiya. One of the meanwhile usual races for province occupations.
    Now it becomes clear, why I called in Jaunpur in the first war. Just to prevent him from fulfilling his guarantee on Limbuwan against me. Nice, that Kham isn't willing to defend. Guge wants to and I can't control his armies atm, so he will likely do some damage in my provinces in North India.
    My 10-stack in Morang, Limbuwan's capital, will be black-flagged at the start of the war. But it is on its way west to a home province anyway and will return immediately thereafter.

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    I have reached all of Limbuwan's provinces in time. See the 10-stack of Sadiya in Morang? Too late, so he goes away again. The last Limbuwani troops tried to escape north via Sakya to Guge in the west. But I could catch them in Gyirong. Even if I have to attack in the mountains, no problem.
    Tsang's capital Lhasa has been sieged down in the meantime, Assam is still in progress.

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    In the east Assam has fallen and my 5 cannons are on the way to Morang (0%). My other cannons are on Guge's capital Ngari (+14%), while I ordered a 13-stack of infantry back to the Lahore area from the south, to deal with the two stacks of Guge.
    As a side observation: Since the age of artillery started, I have hardly used the troops of my vassals or allies. They are useless for sieges without cannons, can't carpet siege and for maneuvers they are too slow and inflexible. So I prefer to do the very most of the work on my own. At least in these smaller wars.
    Lately I have taken Diplo Idea #6 "Flexible Negotiation", for -20% province score cost in wars. It will be very helpful later against the Indian major nations.

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    Nothing much happened in recent months. I have improved relations with some nations. After the end of the siege of Ngari, I peaced out Guge for money and a little prestige. Now I fully annex Limbuwan. Actually the 3 dev province of Sikkim is not in India, but it is the last province with Nepali culture. So because of the Mughals mechanic of "accepting" cultures by simply owning all of these provinces, I take Sikkim too.
    The religion in Limbuwan, as well as in Tsang, is Vajrayana, so Buddhist. Thus it is not very much AE, except with the neighbors. Timmy is missing (with -110 AE) on the list, because he gets 0 AE from this war, but I may not forget about him.

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    With the connection by Limbuwan's former lands, I can also grab the desired provinces from the first war. In a separate peace with Tsang I got his two provinces Chaubisi Rajya and Darrang. I let Hindu Assam go for money, as the AE-costs would be too high to annex this secondary participant too.
    Now the annexation of Hindu OPM Gorkha finishes both wars in this region.
    Eligible members for a coalition are now Baglana (-175), Timurids (-112) and Bahmanis (-55). So just three and I am good for the moment. But several small and medium nations are out just because of a truce. While others are close to -50 AE or have a slightly positive opinion of Mughals.

    Next one coming out of truce is Malwa in Nov.90.
    More about coalition preventing and the next wars ... next time.
     
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    The Mughals have reached almost the eastern borders of India. Just four minors and Bengal are left over there. But I have different plans.

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    The diplomatic map mode showing my alliances. I try to weave a net of assurance against coalitions. Besides my old alliances with Jaunpur plus Baluchistan and the more recent ones with Ottomans plus Vijayanagar, I signed two new ones with Qara Qoyunlu and Bengal. For Bengal I had to prepare it with a RM and probably it is the last chance to get this alliance, because my AE is already at -69.
    As a consequence Jaunpur already announced to break our everlasting friendship. Despite +200 opinion, as he is allied to my rivals Bahmanis and Timurids, while I have allied now his rival Bengal. For a total of -150 reasons to keep the alliance. I wanted to use him just one last time in the next war, I swear. With allying Bengal before the last wars in the Himalaya and dragging out these wars, I could have made Jaunpur stay with me longer. But ok, it is the way it is.

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    Malwa and my very old companion Transoxiana. The army of mine is 45 (30/0/15) out of 47, Malwa has 19/27 and Transox 19/20 regs. My three vassals have 13 regiments in total, whether they will be of any use is an open question. Baluchistan might be helpful against Transox, I might call him in later. First I want to overrun Malwa to extinguish his resistance.

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    Rolling generals with 90+ AT helps, B.S. Rumi (4/5/4/3) is the new star in my army. Malwa's 7-stack, seen in the last picture, got killed on 22.Oct.90. Now I found the remaining 12-stack. I get more than +50% morale bonus from Golden Era, prestige, PP and AT. Some reward from not sitting around and doing nothing, like AIs do.
    Two days later the battle is already over, costing me just 720 infantry for the stackwipe.

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    I siege Malwa's capital level-1 fort in Mandu with 5 cannons (+21%), my vassals can start the sieges on the other two forts. Most of my troops are gathering to walk over to Transox. He is meanwhile in a second war: Uzbek and Great Horde vs Nogai, Transoxiana and Kazan. "Khorasan island" is getting occupied again, the area at the Caspian Sea, where this campaign started once upon a time. Now it is time to call in Baluchistan, I suppose.
    For the second age ability I choose "Transfer Subject", because of "claims bordering claims". A tough decision, as "Justified Wars" with -10% AE is highly attractive too.

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    Mandu has fallen on 22.Feb.91. Everyone is on Rewakantha (0%) now, meaning vassals don't spread out optimally and Baluchistan's 15-stack has gone south to Kutch, totally in vain.
    For the first time in this campaign I have used my 5 transports to transfer a 5-stack to the west of Baluchistan, now on its way north to liberate Khorasan island. In Southern Afghanistan I have splitted my troops (25k) a bit to avoid attrition, they are heading northwest for the Transoxianian forts.

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    Very rarely, but it happens. I have messed up a single stack in Bukhara. When I saw the hostile 8-stack in Khiva (Uzbek), the single stack was just locked in walking over from Charjuy. Any substantial help would have arrived too late. There is a 19-stack Uzbek sieging in the capital of Samarkand next door and I wanted to secure the occupation of the fort in Bukhara.
    Interesting news: My friend Qara declared war on Aq. Overall it is Qara, Mushasha and Mazandaran vs Aq, Timurids and Gazikumukh. Always good to see Timmy busy in a war.

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    Rewakantha, 8.May.91, now Mandla in the east of Malwa is already on +28% progress. Transoxianian troops have long left homeland, thus I came back to Bukhara with pure infantry for the moment (-42%). The other fort in Merv is on +57%, so to fall some time soon to my 10 artillery regs.

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    Mandla, 22.Nov.91, thus Malwa is done. Merv, 17.Dec.91, the cannons are on the way to Bukhara. At this point Transoxiana doesn't even want a white peace. Lol, but I have some time as the next potential war is with Jharkhand and this truce ends in Jun.93.
    This day, the 1.Jan.92, means new Tech, so I get +3 states from Adm Tech 8 and +0.25 infantry fire plus +0.8 cavalry shock from Mil Tech 8.

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    Bukhara finally surrendered on 20.Jun.92 and I peaced out Transoxiana for money.
    Peasant uprising in Kutch. Two reasons, why I don't like to play with subjects. The rebel faction progress in subject's lands is not displayed in the outliner. AIs are scripted to let rebels break out and succeed way more often than necessary, for realism or alt history. In the consequence I have to baby sit my vassals and take care of the rebels myself. Not a problem here as Kutch is two Mil Techs behind, just some annoyance.

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    Much more enjoyable are the negotiations with Malwa. I want all provinces in the two areas Malwa and Gondwana. Because of the mission "Conquer Malwa", giving me perma claims on four new areas. And I can get all these ten provinces because of the -20% province score cost from the Diplo idea.
    Coalition list is three for the moment: Baglana, Timurids and Bahmanis. So this ok and I can reorganize my armies and prepare for the next war in Jun.93. Or I wait a bit more until Oct.93 for my new cores to be finished.

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    What the hell? I get a call to arms?
    Vijy declares on Bahmanis plus Jaunpur and expects me to join. Fantastic. Fighting wars and spending my resources for others is the last I want to do.
    Usually I try to avoid this by improving relations with possible victims of my allies and set them on "friendly". Bahmanis is my rival, so this wasn't possible.
    But I have 10 loans for 2680 ducats in debt, thus I am completely baffled. The rule is, AIs send only CtA to the player, if the AI would honor the call being in the player's position. I can't remember an AI willing to join with such debts. But, yes, I think the rule is respected, it is just close. I could have avoided this scenario by taking unnecessarily more loans, if I would just have known ... <curse>.

    So what to do?
    I save the game and finish the session. Not to cheat the CtA away, but to wager my options and try to find the way to make the best out of this dilemma.

    Accepting or declining? The answer will come ... next time.
     
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    Bahmanis and Jaunpur

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 71, Kutch 5, Multan 4, Tirhut 1 = in total 81/255 for THoT

    Some changes in the Tibetan region. Tsang has been completely destroyed in two wars. As I grabbed Darrang in the area Assam from Tsang (see penultimate episode), Sadiya had no border with Tsang anymore. So he demanded the release of U. The rest of Tsang was shared by Guge and Kham, giving the later the opportunity to form the new nation of Tibet.

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    Accepting or declining?
    Numbers: Mughals 46 (30/0/16) out of 51 regs, my three vassals 13/14, Vijayanagar 57/67 and his vassal Venad 6/6. The other side: Bahmanis 34/54 and Jaunpur 29/47.

    Declining the call means -25 prestige and -1 dip rep for 5 years. What is not displayed, it costs -5 trust with every nation knowing about us, from Morocco to China. That is really ugly and can cause problems for the willingness of other allies to join my future offensive wars or to defend me against a coalition. In addition I would get -100 opinion with Vijayanagar and our alliance would be cancelled immediately. Thus after a 5-year truce I would have Vijy on the possible list for a coalition. Besides Timmy, Jaunpur and Bahmanis. Uncomfortable.
    The upside of declining is, I can do my own thing. So I could attack Bahmanis/Jaunpur myself, in a moment they are exhausted by fighting Vijy.

    Accepting: The biggest disadvantage is, I am in the hands of AI-Vijayanagar as the warleader. As he likes, he can peace out or drag out the war and give me what he wants. Although the troop numbers look really good, accepting has some practical problems. Vijy has a small surface, with the exception of four provinces on the west coast. Meaning Bahmanis/Jaunpur can't reach Vijy's heartland without passing the 57 regs concentrated a bit north of his border, as seen in the picture. As AIs are big cowards Bahmanis/Jaunpur will shy away from fighting Vijy and look for something else to do in the war.
    And that will be my lands, the moment I join. Thus I have to carry the main burden of the war. I have a number of forts, but they have holes, so that the enemies can stream deep into my territory. E.g. in the west through Kutch.
    All the provinces from the last war with Malwa are still cores under construction. Meaning an occupation would freeze the coring process, resulting in prolonged OE, unrest etc.

    CtAs are not pending, so at the start of a new session it takes some days to get a new CtA. Thus it is possible to swindle it away by taking more loans or breaking the alliance or simply delaying the decision endlessly. But no.
    In the end accepting is better than declining, I think. So I do it now, respecting the original deadline of two months, ending on 17.Jan.93.

    Meanwhile I have used the short time for some preparation. I marked every hostile province as vital interest, filed a third claim on Bahmanis, turned on my forts, raised maintenance and ordered 4 new cannons. My military plan is to defend my southern border with 30 regs, while my 20-stack (10/0/10) in Dang in the Himalaya (covered by the 2.9k of Tirhut) will try to siege down all of Jaunpur.
    My political plan? Get as much warscore as possible and then let's see.

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    Funny event, giving me +50 opinion against the nation I am bitterly fighting at the moment.
    Jaunpur quickly orders his troops back to home territory. He can walk from East Berar (Bahmanis) through my fort in Mandla to his province in Bagelkhand, because his fort in Kalinjar projects a friendly ZOC. I wait until the first 12-stack has passed by and then I will attack the remaing 17k on the jungle terrain in Mandla. At least my fort grants me the terrain bonus.
    My siege stack is already working on his level-3 fort in the capital Jaunpur (0%).

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    A nice result in the battle, I assume. Besides the usual advantage in morale and pips by generals, I have the bonus of +0.25 infantry fire from Mil Tech 8. My army is simply good, even without cavalry/elephants. My siege stack is safe now, because Jaunpur hasn't enough troops to attack it anymore. So the battle stack will stay in the west, a Bahmani 11-stack seems to go for a visit of another province of mine.

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    Two siege phases and Jaunpur's capital has fallen, good. Now I can reach almost all Jaunpuri provinces from the east side. He is breeding out a lot of single stacks already. Partly because stackwiping returns some manpower to the loser. A rule to help the stupid AI, maybe?
    A Bahmani 9-stack has fallen into the trap of Mandla again and will die 7 days later.

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    Now 13 Jaunpuri regs in the farmlands of Varansi, southeast of the province Jaunpur. Another elimination, my siege stack can battle too.

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    In Jaunpur I am carpet sieging to kill the unborn, chasing freshly hatched single stacks and desperately trying to make use of my vassals' troops. Now the last 5 Jaunpuri regs can't escape the battle in Baisi Rajya anymore.
    Coring in the Malwa area is finished, in the Gondwana area it will take 3 1/2 more months. So my 20-stack in Mandu (at my southern border) is still patrolling to defend against intruders. AI-Kutch thinks this is not a good idea and goes somewhere else. Sigh.
    Vijy? Conquered the fort in Mudgal, he has been sieging since the start of the war, on 2.May.93. Won one major battle in that area too.

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    My manpower is somewhat low with 974, not? I rolled some more generals, see A.B. Bhutto (5/6/4/2). Thus I have 3 "slacken standards" in reserve, giving me about 8.000 manpower each, thus no problem. I could persuade Tirhut to join my siege in Central Doab (-28%), while my real siege stack with 10 cannons is on Kalinjar (0%).
    Vijy has moved a bit forward. Bahmanis seems to be running around, no serious attempt to stream into my lands recently.

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    The siege of Kalinjar is just over, so I will roll these 10 cannons north to Central Doab (+21%). Meanwhile the cores in Gondwana are done too and I can get the rewards from the mission "Conquer Malwa". Perma claims amongst others on Porbandar and Baglana, the two remaining minors in the west. Plus a nice -50% local autonomy in the Malwa area.
    The war scenario in the south has changed somewhat; Vijy has opened the door for Bahmanis. He sieges now two forts in the center (Bidar -14%) and in the east (Khamammet -28%). So Bahmanis takes the chance to liberate some provinces in the west with his entire troops.
    And I use this opportunity to go into the offensive against Bahmanis, starting the siege in the hills of Burhanpur (0%). With my other 10 cannons and the somewhat surprising support of Kutch.

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    Nice event, giving me effectively 120 Dip points, as I am way above my relationship limit with 5 allies and 3 vassals.
    Central Doab, 13.Jan.94 and the progress on Burhanpur is +28%. Vijy has given up one siege already again. Bahmanis is running away and a 12-stack has taken the western route into my lands, through Baglana to Kutch. I let him go his way and concentrate on my siege.

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    The fort in Burhanpur it taken down. But even more importantly, Bidar, Bahmanis capital, is green striped. Vijy is only interested in some border provinces, especially his three cores. So he transfers the occuption to me, because I have flagged everything as vital interest, before joining the war. My best move. This is increasing my individual warscore by +14% to +61%. What a present of Vijy on a silver platter.

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    Thank you and goodbye!
    Seven provinces, including three forts and three CoT. Way more than I ever expected. AE is moderate as Bahmanis is Shia. My price: -10 trust with Vijy and his vassal Venad. So my alliance with Vijy will hold.
    The real irony of this separate peace is this: If I would have declared the war on Bahmanis myself and would have called in Vijy on the promise of land, then this exact peace deal would have cost me -20 trust and thus the alliance with Vijayanagar. What can I say?

    Short before the end of the war the game assigned me a war participation of 37%. Lol. I have cracked 4 forts and occupied entire Jaunpur, while Vijy got 2 forts and 5 more provinces. I killed about 50k in battles, while Vijy at best about 15k.
    The value of war participation is determined ingame by the participation in battles and sieges. This means Vijy got a lot of value, when he sieged Mudgal for more than half a year with 40+ regs. Causing him a lot of unnecessary attrition. My siege on Jaunpur was done in 2 months with 15-20 regs. So I got way less war participation out of this. With battles it is similar. While I did clean and quick stackwipes, Vijy won one big battle with 59 vs 24.
    In a word: War participation is designed to favor exactly the way AIs handle warfare. Totally incompetent and ineffective.

    Apart from the problem with the war participation, if the AI-warleader thinks of a peace deal, I am not asked, whether I agree or not. So Vijy might have given me different provinces from those I want. But most likely he would have given me way less than even the war participation and would have paid the difference with favors. Not with me.
    I can't say this seperate peace was exactly my plan. But I always had the idea of it in the back of my mind and so I tried to obtain individual war score, not war participation.

    It started with a shock, but for a change this was a very interesting war for me. And in the end I came out way better than expected.

    But it is not the time to rest on laurels. The truce with Jharkhand is already over and the truce with Delhi ends in Oct.96.
    Let's see more wars ... next time.
     
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    Jharkhand, Jaunpur (2nd & 3rd) and Delhi (3rd)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 78, Kutch 5, Multan 4, Tirhut 1 = in total 88/255 for THoT

    The Mughals with a nice addition in the southwest at the expense of Bahmanis last time. The Timurids have annexed Fars, I start the integration of my vassal Multan.

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    About half a year after the finish of the last war, I am ready for the next one, on Jharkhand. Actually this was planned for Oct.93, until Vijayanagar messed up my schedule. Tirhut is set on scutage, therefore I can integrate him without trouble caused by occupations, when I want to.
    So it is Jaunpur again, who is also still in the war with Vijy. Actually I should have mothballed all Jaunpuri forts, before signing peace with Bahmanis. To have them with incomplete garrison now, but I forgot to do.
    My plan is to first secure the occupation of all six provinces of Jharkhand and then call in Bengal on the promise of land. If you count eight provinces for Jharkhand on the screenshot, Garjat has almost the same color and holds two provinces.

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    I have asked for mil access by Garjat before, so I could catch the entire Jharkhandi army from the east side, for the usual early stackwipe in Sambalpur. My other army in Jaunpur is going for the siege of Kalinjar (-28%) and the occupation of unfortified provinces, thereby having a quick meeting with a 2-stack.
    Jaunpur has 15k somewhere in Bahmanis and he is again breeding several new single stacks.

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    In Jaunpur I am now sieging the forts in Rohtasgarh (+14%) and in Kalinjar (+28%). But because I come from the west side, the two forts block my troops and I can't prevent the train of single stacks from Jaunpur southeast to Bengal and then south into the direction of the Ganges Delta. But now I can call in Bengal and use his armies and forts.
    In the south of Jharkhand my army is not allowed to move into Bahmanis' lands, so Jaunpur can hide his troops in his other war. Unless he makes the mistake of moving to one of the provinces, I can access, like Patna here. His 9-stack from the south is locked in and my 18-stack will jump on it from the east. Ending in the obvious bloodbath some days later.

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    The war is going to be a lot more chaotic than I wanted. Bengal doesn't defend his homelands, but moves all his armies to Jaunpur, maybe to get some occupations for himself. As I will peace out Jaunpur separately this isn't a big problem.
    Some hostile troops are in Bengal, some are in Bahmanis and the biggest Jaunpuri army (9.1k) is blackflagged. Because I cancelled the access from Garjat, but the Jaunpuri army had its return province in Garjat and used it. Some new Jaunpuri single stacks appear in Jaunpur, while I got the fort in Rohtasgarh and Kalinjar is on +64%. I try to use my two vassals in the northwest for the siege of Central Doab (-35%), Tirhut is neutral. And two of my many rebel factions would like to break out, in the provinces I got from Malwa some years ago.
    In the other war, which I left so abruptly last time, Vijy conquered Bidar anew and is on +55% warscore vs Bahmanis, my respect.

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    Five months later. I did some rebel suppression, killed a few small stacks in the south and took down the two forts in Kalinjar plus Jharkhand. So I am sieging now Jaunpur (+28%). In the north I told Multan to withdraw from the siege of Central Doab, but in vain. Jaunpur breeded out almost 20 regiments and concentrated them to kill the 6-stack of Multan. Kutch did nothing, but standing around and my forces came too late. However now I could battle the first of the new Jaunpuri armies in Delhi. The 7-stack marching west will be next, I have to chase it a bit. Jaunpur's blackflagged 10-stack is still moving around headlessly, atm south of Vagad, in one of Malwa's provinces.

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    The war is almost over, I am on every province in Jaunpur. While Bengal does something useful for a change and fights a 2-stack for me. Chasing one or two single stacks in the eastern Himalaya and watching the blackflagged 10-stack, currently in Bastar (Bahmanis), is all what is left. But I will remain seated on this war until the truce with Delhi is over in October this year. Some time to take care of my rebel factions and do more suppression.

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    The nine months have passed, so let's go to war with Delhi for a last time.
    Step 1: Sign a seperate peace with Jaunpur for 100% score.
    I grab four provinces, including the two forts in Kalinjar and Rohtasgarh, for the increased price of +50% AE. Moreover I force Jaunpur to break all his alliances with Timmy, Bahmanis and Porbandar. He started the war with 15k, but the statistics of casualties reveal, he produced amazing 45k during the war. Oh, the fate of the black-flagged 10-stack? After several moves, it self-destructed somewhere in the west of Baglana or Malwa. Simply disbanded by AI-Jaunpur without reason.

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    Step 2: Declare on Delhi.
    Bengal can't join, as he is still together with me in the other war against Jharkhand. Jaunpur will join, with no soldiers and mothballed forts. Aha, this time I didn't forget to do this one month before. Baluchistan, my future former ally, will join with a self-mothballed fort in Kalat and both his armies covered by appropriate stacks of mine. My entire army is now 56 (32/0/24) out of 57. My vassal Multan is out of this war by scutage. A consequence of his poor display last time.
    If this looks like a good preparation, I have overlooked that mothballing the level-3 fort in Jaunpur leaves it with a garrison of 1000. Thus it is not emptied, but just with lower garrison. Moreover I don't need the occupation of that fort at all, so I should have placed all 30 regs in the north, close to Delhi.

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    13.Nov.96, Baluchistan out for some money. 20.Nov.96, Jaunpur out for a white peace, after I got the occupation of Central Doab within a month. The new truce with Jaunpur is timed to end in Jan.02. The truce reduction from 15 to 5 years was the sole reason to include Jaunpur into this war.
    As a consequence of my suboptimal army setup at the start of the war, the 11-stack of Delhi is now running around. I have already invested in a fort in Morang (Nepal), but this building is still under construction for more than a year.

    The war Vijy vs Bahmanis totally turned around in 1496. The warscore is now +8% in favor of Bahmanis. Bahmanis could liberate his two forts in Bidar plus Mudgal and occupy the level-1 fort in the capital province Vijayanagar. Maybe Vijy spend too much time in the east on a fort there. But in the end I don't know exactly what happened, both nations have been low on manpower for a while.

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    After the fall of the capital Upper Doab it is time to peace out Delhi. These demands were my original intention, taking five provinces and vassalize Delhi on his last province. Delhi has a lot of cores around, so I could use him for a Reconquest next time on Jaunpur.

    But this deal runs into a bug. It is the payment of Dip points, the UI displays I have to pay 10. I have claims on all provinces and declared conquest war, so I can grab all provinces for 0 Dip points. Vassalizing is not included in the CB, thus I have to pay for "unjustified demands". Which is 3 Dip points per development. Kangra, the designated last province of Delhi, has 4 dev. So the costs are 12 Dip, but I get a discount of 10%, because of the Golden Era. That is 10.8 points, rounded down to 10, as displayed. Well, but if I make this deal I suddenly have to pay 137 points!

    Probably I ran into this bug several times before, without noticing. AAR writing helps. I did it in this campaign early, when fighting Multan in 1468. Reviewing the two screenshots from 20./21.Jul.68 reveals, I was supposed to pay 6 Dip points, for Multan's last 3 dev province, but in fact I payed 76 points.
    The bug is, I have to pay for "unjustified" as if I vassalize the entire nation. At that time Multan (with 38 dev) was my rival, so I got a reduction to just 2 points per "unjustified" development. Therefore: 38 dev * 2 points = 76 points.
    Here with Delhi it is 51 dev * 3 points = 153 points. Including the discount from Golden Era 137.7 points, rounded down to 137. Instead of 10, as correctly displayed.

    So what to do? Besides the fact that I hate to pay 127 Dip points for no reason, but a bug, I am integrating Multan and Tirhut is in the pipe. If I do this deal I end on -108 Dip points, which will freeze integrations until I come back to at least 0 again. Unpleasant.

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    I considered taking just the five desired provinces and let Delhi live as an OPM in Kangra, then vassalize him after the next war. But possibly Delhi gets alliances with Ming and Ottomans, the day before I will attack him again. Well ok, not Ming and Ottofriend, but Timmy and Jaunpur is quite realistic.
    At this point in the game I am already somewhat sick and tired of vassal play, again. So I throw every caution overboard and decide to fully annex Delhi. A decision, I might regret bitterly or I can pat myself on the shoulder for, twenty years from now.
    The remaining Delhi army converts into an 11-stack of rebels. A little chasing has to be done.

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    Now I can also end the war with Jharkhand. I take just the two provinces, I have claims on. No Diplo costs and I get a border with Garjat. AE list: Baglana, Timmy, Chagatai and Garjat. That is four, but with Timurids just one serious possible member of a coalition. I have fairly good relations with Chagatai, so I could get him out with some money, if necessary.

    Soon after Vijy gives one province to Bahmanis and that war is over too.

    The next truce running out is with Porbandar in Dec.01, a long time from now. I have no truces with Baglana and Garjat, but both are somewhat defended. But maybe I get a chance sooner than expected or I prepare a visit in the far east of India once more.
    More about it ... next time.
     
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    Even more Hindu Minors

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 90, Kutch 5, Multan 4, Tirhut 1 = in total 100/255 for THoT

    Some new provinces in the east of Central India for the Mughals last time and our old nemesis Delhi got removed from the map.
    Let's find the next victim: Baglana is allied to Vijayanagar plus Andhra and guaranteed by Bahmanis, no. Garjat is allied to Jaunpur, so it makes no sense to attack him either for now.

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    A peaceful time for me in recent months. I synchronized the annexation of two vassals. But I forgot to prepare the integration of my last vassal Kutch in time. Now I get -30 opinion twice by Kutch and I have to improve relations for several months with him first. His annexation will go slowly anyway, because of the -3 dip rep penalty for 10 years.
    At least I inherited some infantry and I have cleared some of my relationship slots, so I welcome Uzbek as my new ally. I would have preferred to get Muscovy, but he is Christian and doesn't know about the Muslim Mughals. Allying an AI-horde is always a bit risky, but Uzbek has done well so far, his army is 29/51 and he is not bordering Ming. So I think, I can take him for now.

    2PM Garjat attacked 4PM Jharkhand in Jun.97. The latter had no soldiers, because all died in our war before. But Jharkhand got guaranteed by Bengal, who honored his obligation. So no chance for Garjat and another disastrous war declaration by an AI. However Jharkhand has been so friendly to just take one of the two provinces out of Garjat and let him live on.

    In the meantime: On 6.Dec.98 the reformation starts in Hamburg. Thus the Age of Discovery will end in Jan.09. For sure I will miss the "Feudal de Jure"-edict very much.

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    Time to visit East India once more. I can get all remaining four minors into this one war, declared on Sadiya. Setting Manipur and Tripura as co-belligerents doesn't bring any new nations into the war. Unfortunately I can't co-belli Assam, because we have a truce until Jun.02. But waiting more than three years from now is out of question for me, I will have a busy schedule then again.
    Sadiya and Manipur have holdings in Burma, so I don't need to fully annex them. Altogether the minors can mobilize 39 regs, but Tripura's 6-stack and Assam's 10-stack, to be seen in the screenshot, will die quickly.

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    Sadiya's and Manipur's armies have run away to the southeast, to not share the fate of Assam's or Tripura's. Four minors, four level-1 capital forts to siege down. The first of them is done already.

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    And now the last one of the forts. But Sadiya doesn't want to give up, so I have to occupy the remaining provinces as well. Ava has given mil access to Tripura, so the remaining hostile troops are hidden somewhere over there.

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    One month later the war is over without another battle.
    First I separately peaced out with Assam for his full annexation some days ago.
    Now the deal with Sadiya. Full annexation of OPM Tripura, two provinces from Manipur and two provinces from Sadiya. Because an AE of -163, I don't want Hindu Sadiya to remain on the map. Therefore I demand, he has to return all his other provinces to Mong Yang. Costs me some Dip points, but well. Manipur is Animist, so my AE at him is fairly low and he will forgive me soon. Thus he may live on.
    Other than that the AE-list contains some new members, but all are minors like Andhra or Kolathunad (Southwest India). So no problem for me and my alliance network.

    The surviving Sadiyan army turns into rebels and Ava has the honor to fight them, a little present of mine for giving mil access to my enemies.
    So East India is done with this war, until the inevitable confrontation with Bengal someday.

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    More than two years have passed until the next war, I don't like it.
    But now the truce with Porbandar (violet) is over. I didn't want to disturb him and his mothballed fort in Girnar, the isolated province in the west. So I just started the transfer of my western army to his borders on the 1st of this month with my 10 transports from Thana, the former port of Bahmanis. In the east an 18-stack is waiting for Jharkhand to join.

    In time, on 1.Jan.00, the institution Colonialism spawned in Lincolshire (England). I could develop it almost immediately in Sirhind. The question is: Do I continue this campaign beyond 1550? After some consideration I decide to answer this with a 'no'. So it is more efficent to take the penalities for a few Techs and ignore the development or spread of Colonialism.
    In Nov.00 I started the integration of my last vassal Kutch and in in Dec.00 Muscovy declared war on Great Horde. Uzbek is helping his fellow Sunni tribe, so I can see, how my new ally can stand up against the Russians.

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    In Porbandar, my 9-stack in Khambhat went northwest for the siege of Jhalavad, his capital. He moved his 10-stack south from Ahmadabad to Khambhat. So I could catch him with returning my 9-stack and shiping another 10-stack over from Thana with my transports. Even my small fleet can be very useful.
    In the east Jharkhand's main army is also dead once again. The small rest of 2 regs is dying in Mayurbhanj just now. Business as usual.

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    Jhalavad, Porbandar's capital, on 1.Feb.02 and today the level-1 fort of Jharkhand.
    And that's it for this war, all hostile provinces are occupied. But I won't peace out for the moment for a reason. Since 1.Jan.02 my truce with Jaunpur is over and all my armies are free to attack him now.

    So let's move into position a bit more and then declare the new important war.
    More about it ... next time.
     
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    Jaunpur (4th)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 102, Kutch 5 = in total 107/255 for THoT

    The Himalayan tentacle of the Mughals in its greatest extent. Porbandar is under full occupation, but not annexed yet.

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    At the turn of a new century a look at the known world with the Great Powers Map Mode. Ming is displayed with all his tributries, officially the Mughals are the #1 Great Power, because of the bonus from Renaissance. Top 3 by dev: Ming 1145, Mughals 898, Muscovy 711.
    Top 3 by army size: Ming 92/177, Ottomans 85/110, Muscovy 75/97. With 66/68 Mughals are #6 about even with England, France and Mamluks.
    Top 3 by income (ducats per month): Ming 86, Ottomans 75, Mughals 71. My trade income is not very good, because the trade power is divided into several unconnected nodes. Monthly deficit at times of war, so with full army maintenance and active forts: about 20 ducats/month. Total debt: about 4000 ducats, which is 9/50 loans. Comfortably stable.

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    Jaunpur again, but it is the first time I face him as primary participant. In addition I want to get rid of the Hindu OPM Garjat, who is guaranteed by Jharkhand. So to avoid to fight Jharkhand twice, I preferred the war on Porbandar/Jharkhand in the last episode and sit on it. Interestingly Jharkhand is displayed in the UI on the side of Jaunpur, although their relation is just indirectly via Garjat.
    Funny the guarantee of Jharkhand on Garjat, as just a few years ago Garjat attacked his current protector. Moreover the only nations able to attack Garjat are Bengal and me, the mighty Mughals. What can a guarantee by the weakling Jharkhand achieve, besides trouble, I wonder.

    Back to the new war with Jaunpur. Numbers: Mughals 66 (42/0/24) out of 68 regs, Jaunpur 25/43, Transox 17/20, Chagatai 13/21 and Garjat 8/10. The plan is to overrun Garjat and then Jaunpur. After that I will take care of Chagatai and Transoxiana. Long distances to march for my armies this time.

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    Garjat has joined in the defense of Jaunpur, so I can finish the other war. Because guarantee is an "one day action", like DoF. Meaning, the protector has to join exactly the day of the attack on his protégé. Unlike a defensive CtA in an alliance, which can be send and honored any time post the start of the war.
    The peace deals: Jharkhand got out for the minimum. A white peace, to have the shortest time for a truce, 5 years. Now finally the full annexation of Hindu minor Porbandar.

    In the new war Garjat's army is in its last days and my other army in the north is on its way to the province Jaunpur, to siege the level-3 fort once again.

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    "Times of Need", some extra Dip points from Bengal, very well. Jaunpur's army is running away, what a surprise. I have started the sieges of Jaunpur (-28%) and Central Doab (0%). Both are missing some cannons for the full siege bonus, but more artillery is on the way already.

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    Khurda, Garjat's province, 25.Apr.02, in just 33 days. Too early for Garjat to accept his full annexation for whatever reasons.
    Chagatai has come down for a visit of my fort in Sirhind (-35%). Jaunpur has splitted his armies, with the main army running around in the Himalaya once more. After the fall of Central Doab, I can try to stop this army now.
    The event "Broken Promises" happened, so Bengal refused me to help in "Times of Need". Giving both of us a severe malus of mutual opinions. Is he maybe already on the way to break up our alliance?

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    The fort in Jaunpur surrendered on 18.Jul.02 and Garjat accepted his downfall on 14.Aug.02. Coring of Khurda has started.
    I caught the southern army of Jaunpur in the hills of Baisi Rajya. He is on the same Tech 8 as I am and he even has +15% morale from Defensive ideas. But it is of little help, when having little prestige, PP and AT. Meanwhile my manpower generation is quite reasonable, so that I can take casualities of 3k from a battle like here occasionally. Now let's move north to toast some more enemies.

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    The other Jaunpuri army got trampled down. Chagatai run away in time and Transoxiana is happy sieging down Khorasan island.

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    First a 7-stack of Chagatai died in the hills of Kashmir some weeks before. Now his 10-stack can't escape a battle in the mountains of Badakhshan. Two of my armies will arrive on the same day to have a 24 vs 10 superiority. Somehow hordes don't fight well in non-flat terrain.
    A siege stack of mine with 6 cannons is on the way to Kashgar, the level-2 fort in Chagatai. Transox has given the occupations of my unattended Persian provinces to Jaunpur. So the latter can breed out some new single Mercs. After the battle in Badakhshan I will split that army again. One stack will go northwest to the forts of Transoxiana, the other southwest to chase away the troops, that are sieging my unfortified provinces in West Afghanistan.

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    Some months later and Transoxiana's capital in Samarkand is the first fort to fall. As the hostile troops in the west have retreated again, I could also start the siege of Merv (-21%) in South Transoxiana. In Chagatai, Kashgar is on +42% already. He has no reasonable army anymore, so my 14-stack is safe.

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    Chagatai is out, after I sieged down Kashgar on 6.Jun.03. I have demanded the annulation of his two alliances with Nogai plus Jaunpur and a little bit of money.
    Now, following the surrender of Bukhara, it is time to peace out Transoxiana too. I want him to break his alliances with Malwa plus Jaunpur and war reps plus some more ducats. I don't care much anymore for some little stacks of Jaunpur moving through Timmy's lands. I am just waiting for the last coring in Khurda (Garjat) to be done on 14.Oct.03, to finish this war entirely.

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    Here is what I really want, 100% OE for 100% warscore. A perfect peace deal, I think. Ten provinces, including the big fat one in Central Doab (24 dev) with a fort. All remaining three CoT, so I control all in my home node Doab. Also I finally get a connection from Central India to my Himalayan provinces, well appreciated.
    The max AE of -116 is hefty, but natural after such a grab. Officially it is now five for a possible coalition: Baglana, Timurids, Andhra, Guge and Tibet. But just one bigger power with Timmy, so this should be good. With Ming it is -23 AE, something I must have an eye on, or two.

    Bahmanis is on a truce until May.05. I can't wait for this date.
    For sure we will see new wars ... next time.
     
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    Bahmanis (2nd), Baglana and Jaunpur (5th)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 116, Kutch 5 = in total 121/255 for THoT

    Last time Jaunpur got notably shrunk and the minors Porbandar plus Garjat have been removed from the map.

    The Mughals don't even own half of the provinces in India, but I would like to take a look form the end of the campaign, backwards.
    The province score costs of the big Indian nations:
    Jaunpur 132%
    Bengal 262% (plus 1 prov in Burma for 14%)
    Bahmanis 279%
    Vijayanagar 344%

    A note: Ingame this is referred to "province war score cost", but the term "war score" is ambigous, imho. Because "war score" also refers to the score achieved in a war, like occupying provinces or winning battles. This war score can be exchanged in the peace deal for war reps, breaking alliances, provinces etc. So I would like to term this score as "peace deal score", e.g. war reps have 10%. In specific for provinces as "province score" in short.

    So what are the consequences from the list above?
    I can take up to 100% in one war, thus for Vijy I need 4 wars to take everything. After a 100% grab the time for a truce is 15 years. 4 wars vs Vijy means 3 truces and the years of conducting the wars, which comes to 3 * 15 years + 5 years = 50 years, about. As it is 1504 already, I don't have 50 years anymore until 1550.

    What can I do?
    Province score reduction: I have already taken Diplo Idea #6 for -20% score, which is included in the information ingame and thus in the list above. With the Age of Reformation I can go for the ability "Religious Wars" giving -25% score vs other religions, thus helpful against Bahmanis and Vijayangar. But the new age will start not until 1509 and then I need some time to earn the required 800 splendors.
    "A Viceroy for the Deccan" is an event giving +10% Adm efficiency, also very helpful. But I can trigger it only by fulfilling the requirements of several of the Mughal missions. So this will come very late.

    Truce breaking: Costs -3 stab, +3 WE and about -50 AE as a base. Just for starting the war. Hefty, thus this will be my ultima ratio.
    Truce resetting: Yes, that is it. I have done this already with Jaunpur in 1496, when I intentionally included him in the final war with Delhi. Just to white peace him out asap, to get the minimal truce of 5 years. Which reduced the former existing truce by 10 years.
    The problem is, truce resetting is a bit out of my hand. I need a constellation, I can use. Guarantees are best for it. At the moment e.g. Jharkhand is guaranteed by Jaunpur, Bengal and Bahmanis. The truce with Bahmanis is up soon in May.05, so it makes no sense to attack Jharkhand, just to reset the truce with Jaunpur. For now. But for later this is an interesting option. So in the future I have to balance conquests with truce resetting chances. Tough decisions will come in the following years.

    Back from theoretical considerations to the reality. Concrete plan: The next war will be on Bahmanis, then I will tackle on Bengal. Vijayanagar comes later, partly because he is the biggest power and partly because he is Hindu, which will be best for a possibly necessary truce break in the end.

    In the meantime: In Jan.05 I take Adm and Mil Tech 9 on time, giving +0.25 mil tactics and new infantry units, with 7 pips instead of 4. Most of the southern Indian nations are still on Mil Tech 7, due to not having the Renaissance. In addition I have collected enough splendors to get -10% AE from the age ability "Justified Wars", for the few years the Age of Discovery is still active.

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    My goal is a complete victory, foremost I want eight provinces in the north for "Across the Vindhyas", one of the Mughal missions. So I can call in Vijy for favors to help me a bit in the south. Bengal would like to join, but I don't want him.
    Numbers: Mughals 75 (45/0/30) out of 82 regiments, Vijy 36/63 and Venad 6/6. The other side: Bahmanis 44/49 and Andhra 13/14.

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    The northwest is already mine, one stack has laid siege on Bidar (0%), Bahmanis' capital with a level-3 fort. A hostile 17-stack is in Adavani (North Vijy), the others are moving north east, the entire 13 Andhran regs at the top. Two Bahmani armies (17 and 10 regs) are following, atm invisiable by the fog of war. Seems they have spotted some weakness in my territory. I move two 20-stacks a bit to the east to have an eye on the enemies.

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    Aha, almost all hostile troops are on my three unfortified provinces Khurda, Sambalpur and Surguja. So I can box them in now. With my forts in Mandla plus Rohtasgarh and my two armies, a 21-reg already in Mandla and a 20-reg moving north to Ratanpur. Thus either the enemies have to go to my jungle fort in Rohtasgarh, attack my armies or simply sit in the three provinces and take attrition for nothing. Or my vassal Kutch asks Bengal for mil access and lets my nice setup collapse.
    But for now, me and Vijy can siege forts and every other province, we can reach, without disturbance.

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    The enemies have left Surguja, I moved in. So 55 hostile regs have only two provinces to shuffle back and forth. Attacking my 45 regs? Not an option for the coward AI.
    Our sieges are progressing, I have sent a 3 siege pip general for the support of Vijy to Mudgal (+42%).

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    Mudgal on 12.Feb.06, Bidar on 6.Mar.06 and Warangal on 24.Mar.06. Three forts have fallen, two new in Khamammet (-21%) and Kondavidu (-42% by Vijy) are work in progress. For the moment I am blocked by forts and can't reach the isolated 6k in Konaseema, the capital of Andhra.
    No news in the east, the enemy troops are moving up and down.

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    Kondavidu on 16.Jun.06, after I supported Vijy, now Khamammet the last real fort. So I can remove the small hostile 6-stack next and start the last siege, that of the level-1 fort in Konaseema.

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    This war could have been a nice display of how to win a war for 100% without unnecessary battles and casulties. Unfortunately I need this war going and my armies for other jobs. So I can't box in the enemies forever and I decide to go for the kill of the 55 regs.
    I could have asked Bengal for mil access, hoping the hostile forces would split and I can get easy stackwipes. Somewhere and after some chasing. As I am confident in my army, I go for a mass battle, even in the jungle. Bahmanis and Andhra are both on Mil Tech 8, but have little artillery. I have concentrated all my units in the area, with the exception of 5 cannons, sieging Andhra's capital. I just need to win the first battle, because a shattered retreat far away is not possible anymore, as I got enough control on all the hostile provinces.
    Actually I go to the battle in Khurda with exactly one line of infantry and one line of artillery, filling the combat width (CW) of 25 each. Not one regiment more, not one less. This way I ensure to get the optimal unit deployment. The effective setup of the enemies is 15/10/11, so I have 14 more cannons in the battle. The rest of the hostile inf/cav are displayed useless in the back row or reserve. So in reality it is not 50 vs 55, but 50 vs 36.

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    A big advantage in morale, discipline, mil tactics and a 5/6 vs a 4/1 general. Result: 7.5k vs 19.5k casualties, a clear victory.
    I have moved some troops into the neighboring province of Sambalpur, where the rest of the hostile armies will find their grave on 11.Nov.06. Important that the enemies don't get a monthly tick of morale between the two battles. So I should have optimized the first battle by starting it on the 21st, not on the 17th.
    Now I can move my armies in position for the next war.

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    Baglana, the Hindu 3PM in dark red/brown in West India. Guaranteed by Bahmanis and allied to Vijayanagar, Jaunpur plus Andhra. I could use him as a truce resetter for Bahmanis and a possibility to attack my ally Vijy later.
    But, if I conquer him now and soon after Malwa, I can complete the Mughal mission "Secure the Hajj Ports". Giving me perma claims on the eight provinces, I want from Bahmanis. And I need all of these to get the next mission "Across the Vindhyas" done, which in return will give me perma claims on the amazing number of nine new areas. On lands held by Bahmanis, Andhra and Vijy.
    So this somewhat complex and interleaved war construction saves me a lot of Adm plus Dip points and a bit of time.
    Baglana is a longtime thorn in my side. Unbelieveable, but it was way back in 1470 when I was the last and only time at war this minor. He refused to help Mewar in 1486 because of loans and soon after was protected by Vijy. Three of his friends can't help him now, obviously. A chance, I have waited long for.

    Military wise this war is no problem. One army (23 regs) in the west to deal with Baglana, two armies (21 and 25 regs) to deal with Jaunpur, whose 19-stack is drilling.

    On 3.Nov.06 the war Muscovy vs Great Horde and Uzbek ended in a white peace. Thus my friend Uzbek did well against one of the Great Powers, I like it.

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    The entire Jaunpuri army survived exactly one day. AIs should be forbidden to drill, it just weakens the economy and in the end shortens the lifetime of the troops.

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    Baglana is done and my navy gets something to do, a rare picture in this campaign.
    Jaunpur: I could white peace him out for the truce resetting. But I decide to go for more and thus siege his capital Jaunpur (-7%) and occupy the rest.
    Meanwhile Konaseema in Andhra has fallen on 23.Jan.07, the leftover from the other war.

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    This time the level-3 fort resisted about half a year until 10.Jul.07, but now I can peace out. Two reasons for a 100% deal: For one Jaunpur's alliance with Timurids, which I break. Second, I want to press Jaunpur below 100% peace deal score, which I can achieve by grabbing four provinces. As seen in the peace treaty UI the score for Jaunpur becoming my vassal is 193%. But this is double costs, because atm Jaunpur is a secondary participant, so his new province score will be 96.5%.

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    One day later, Jaunpur accepts and my Padishah Bahadur Shah dies. He was ok with his (5/3/1), but I am glad his trait -20% improve relations is gone. The new Padishah is Rafi' (2/4/5), aged 22. But he drops the legitimacy to 66, the minimum for a strong claim. The new heir is Shah Sujah, aged 21. Probably a younger brother, very mediocore with his (2/3/4) plus a strong claim. Both royal brothers are "strict", giving +5% discipline, nice.

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    Full annexation of Baglana.
    Coalition list: Jharkhand, Baluchistan, Timurids, Guge, Kolathunad and Tibet. Six nations, but as usual only Timmy with a respectable army. So I should be good.

    On 28.Jul.07 I can also peace out Andhra, for just his annulation of the alliance with Bahmanis. The truce date is set to Sep.13.

    Still no peace with Bahmanis. First I need some provinces from Malwa and this truce will be up very soon, in Sep.07.
    Let's see this new war ... next time.
     
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    Malwa (3rd) and Bengal

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 123, Kutch 5 = in total 128/255 for THoT

    A little addition in Jaunpur and on the west coast by eliminating Baglana are the results from recent years. Bahmanis is under full occupation, so some more provinces are waiting to be integrated into the Mughal Empire.

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    The goal is to get rid of Malwa (78% province score) and to attack the one but last big Indian power, my ally Bengal. I did a lot in recent years to keep this alliance alive until now, so I can set Bengal as co-belligerent.
    The troop count: Mughals 75 (45/0/30) out of 87, Bengal 44/50 and Malwa 14/19 regiments.
    The alert flag for the truces always noted Sep.07 as the end-date. But it is 7.Aug.07, I got a news pop-up and you see by the UI, I can declare the war right now. One of the desynchronisations I love so much about this game. Indeed my armies are already in position. A 40-stack sits on a leaderless Bengal 22-stack, to abuse our alliance for an instant kill of half of Bengal's army. The small Malwani armies will soon be covered too by appropriate stacks of mine.

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    Malwa is cleared from hostile troops, the capital Jhansi with a level-3 fort is under siege (+21%). The Bengali 22-stack was dead after 4 days, costing me just 900 infantry. That army wasn't drilling, but Bengal is still on Mil Tech 7, two Techs behind. My battle winning army moved forward to the coastal fort of Balasore (-7%). I can't match Bengal's navy with 55 ships, so my fleet stays at home and I have to siege a bit longer here to overcome the -2 siege malus.

    Jharkhand seems to hate me and rented his 10-stack out to Bengal, for free. I tried to catch it with my 19-stack, but came late a day or two. Now all remaining hostile forces are on my fort in Morang (Nepal -28%) or are moving over to there.

    News from other nations: On 10.Aug.07 Vijayanagar entered an alliance with Jharkhand. Probably as a replacement for Baglana, interesting.

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    Three months later, everyone is sieging forts and then ...
    Jharkhand declares on Jaunpur! Jaunpur is still about double in size of Jharkhand and has a helping OPM ally Ferghana, who can mobilize up to 10 regs. Most significant: Jharkhand has no army at the moment. His 10-stack is under Condottieri contract for at least 15 more months.
    This makes it into the Top 5 of the most stupid AI war declarations I have ever seen in EU4. And I have seen some, I think.

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    Balasore 12.Jan.08, Jhansi 17.Jan.08, these sieges took some time. But now already the next fort in the south has surrendered, Satgaon.
    The siege on my fort in Morang was on +7%, so I have decided to kick the enemies off. Not sure, if this is the best move, as I have only 10 artillery in the battle. I am far away from getting a stackwipe, as with 35 vs 34 I can't get the 2:1 superiority. Plus this time a shattered retreat to somewhere in Bengal will be possible for the enemies.
    At least a proof, I am not getting lucky all the time, a 0 vs 9 roll in the first phase. Actually I think, rolls in battles and sieges are somewhat overrated and are occasionally used as an excuse for some pure handling.

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    I won the battle clearly, with 5k vs 9.2k losses. But the fort in Chakla blocks me and the enemies can hide in Chittagong, the province most southeast. At least I can siege now the level-3 fort of Bengal's capital Gouda (0%) unhuriedly.

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    Following the fairly quick fall of Gouda on 15.Jun.08, after 80 days, I decide to sign the separate peace with Bengal already now. For a change I don't demand anything for myself, but return one province (Danin) to Jharkhand, one province (Kalingandhra) to Andhra and release Hindu Orissa with six provinces from Bengal. In effect I transfer 59% province score from Sunni Bengal to three Hindu nations. Orissa loves me, but unfortunately he is too big to become my diplo-vassal.

    Originally I planned to take at least three coastal provinces from Bengal for myself. However I am still digesting the provinces from Baglana for an OE of 27% and next I want to annex Sunni Malwa. Then, also the war with Bahmanis is pending, where I want to make a big grab once more. So I need some scope for more AE and OE to come. I think this deal is well worth the 179 Dip points, I have to pay. Although this will freeze the integration of Kutch for several months. Just in a moment I got rid of the ten-year penalty of -3 dip rep.

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    Full annexation of Malwa. The coalition list is the same as last time after the war with Baglana, with six members (Jharkhand, Baluchistan, Timurids, Guge, Kolathunad and Tibet). So I should be good again.
    Now I have to wait until 5.Nov.09 for all of the new coring to be done. Then I can peace out with Bahmanis for the next chunk of provinces.

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    First to the situation in the west. Two provinces in Bahmanis are now yellow stripped instead of green. While I was busy in Bengal, some Bahmani particularist rebels broke out. Vijy took care of them, he had nothing to do anyway. But when he reoccupied the provinces from the rebels, he kept the control of the provinces of his vital interest for himself. No problem, as I don't want these two provinces anyway.
    My armies are now on guard at the border, should some more Bahmani rebels occur.

    I could reap in the rewards of the two missions "Secure the Hajj Ports" and "Subdue Rajputana", giving me extra 500 ducats besides the well wanted perma claims. I got the event "Political Crisis", where I choose to take -25 legitimacy. To stabilize a bit I invested 100 mil points for +10 legi. Besides Mil Tech and rolling generals, I don't use Mil points anyway.

    Now Jharkhand has resigned in his stupid war on Jaunpur. Losing three provinces, including Danin, which is in the hands of a Sunni nation again. Most interesting is the appearance of the Hindu OPM Keonhjar (yellow). I will hurry to file a claim on him, I smell new options.

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    One year has passed and I can peace out, while my friend Vijy has some unnecessary trouble with Bahmani noble rebels. Maybe it is not a good idea to stand around in longtime occupied territory, Vijy.
    Besides the eight provinces in the north, I want the coastal province in Dabhol and three provinces in the southeast, of which two have a fort. For these four provinces I can get the corresponding claims, but only after the peace deal. By the rewards from the mission "Across the Vindhyas". Thus I have to pay some Dip points and Kutch will stay with me for some more months.

    Vijy is close to breaking our alliance. I have already arranged a RM, Meenakshi (4/6/5) becomes our new Padishah Begum. Again a very good Queen, while I have a way weaker adult heir. To further please Vijy, I demand from Bahmanis to revoke one of Vijy's cores.
    No new members on the AE-list. As long as I can keep out Sunni nations in Arabia like Hormuz or Yemen, I seem to have no problem with coalitions.

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    Currently I have way more unrest and rebel factions (40+) than in the 30 years before. Even a province like Doti in the Himalayan hills has some remaining unrest, although I conquered it 25 years ago. Because of fairly low legitimacy, some WE, OE and the loss of my beloved "Feudal de Jure"-edict at the beginning of the last year.

    On 1.Jan.09 the Age of Reformation has started. However, I have prepared for the new age. Very long ago, in 1457, I force converted Kashmir in our peace deal and over the time I converted eleven provinces to Sunni. Just the smallest and cheapest. So I start with two objectives fulfilled and I am close to get a third, by receiving the trade bonus in silk. Thus in about 10-13 years I should have earned enough splendors to take the first ability of the new age.

    At the end of the last year I signed a new alliance, with Dawasir in Arabia. He is not very big (41 dev) and his army is just 11/14. But he is Sunni, following the Hanbali school. By inviting a scholar from Dawasir I get -10% AE for 20 years now. My diplomats have worked a long time to get this, but I should have started the preparations several years earlier.

    Vijy has turned hostile to me and this instantly breaks our RM. He doesn't like my -123 AE after the grab from Bahmanis and he is a bit worried about my many new claims on his lands, originating from "Across the Vindhyas". So I spend 5 prestige for a scornful insult on Bahmanis and 392 ducats for the use of "Influence Nation". I absolutely want to keep him in line, for the moment.

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    My spy in Keonhjar has done his job and has constructed the claim. So, what does a war on the OPM give me? Current truce dates: Jaunpur Sep.22, Orissa Aug.23 and Andhra Sep.13. Meaning a truce resetting with Jaunpur by several years is possible. Very well, so let's go to war immediately.
    Orissa guaranteed Keonhjar, then rivaled him. Thus he isn't willing to meet his obligation anymore, too bad. Eventually for Andhra it will be a slight truce extension.

    On 6.Feb.10 Bengal declared war on Bahmanis. Both lost their entire armies not so long ago, both have no allies and both have provinces cut off from their main territory, all because of my doings. I will keep an eye on what happens in this war.

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    So here we go!
    I am neither talking about the usual insta kill battles on all hostile forces, nor the 26-stack of Gujarati separatists on the west coast. But about, Tibet opening a coalition on the Mughals!
    Check, if I have overlooked someone eligible to join: No. As before it is Timurids, Baluchistan, Guge, Tibet, Jharkhand and Kolathunad.
    Check, if my allies are in trouble or otherwise unwilling to defend: No. The Ottomans are fighting for Bohemia in Europe vs Austria, Hungary and Castile. But they are winning and just have a WE of 2. Qara has 1 loan, Uzbek and Dawasir no problems at all. Vijy views Mughals as "valuable ally" again after my fixes some months ago.
    Numbers: Timurids 57/61, Tibet 14/20 and the four others about 10 regs each.
    My side: Mughals 80/97, Ottomans 94/123, Vijy 42/63, Qara 35/57, Uzbek 30/52 and Dawasir 11/14 regs.
    Even if I am a bit wrong about one of my allies. Where in the nine hells is this "could pose a threat"? I don't see it. Ok, the Tibetan ruler is a militarist and a coalition is more likely to form when the target is at war. Possibly adding the troop numbers of my current enemies to that of the coalition members. But ...

    Just to be sure, I use "Influence Nation" on Tibet and OPM Kolathunad for some ducats.
    Six days later Tibet announces, he has left the coalition. Which is thus disbanded.
    A strange incident and not good, as I might face more of this in the future.

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    Back to the presence: 33 days and the war is over with a white peace. Next I can go west to do some rebel killing. The new truce date with Jaunpur is Jul.15.

    The cores on the former Bahmani provinces will be created on 7.Mar.11. Is this the date for the next war, maybe on Jharkhand?
    We will see it ... next time.
     
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    Vijayanagar

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 141, Kutch 5 = in total 146/255 for THoT

    Twelve provinces from Bahmanis and all six from Malwa last time, a big step forward in Central India.

    The province scores of the big four:
    Jaunpur 121%
    Bengal 203% (plus 1 prov in Burma for 15%)
    Bahmanis 192%
    Vijayanagar 349%

    Some changes since the last look at these numbers seven years before. Vijy increased by +5%. Not by gaining provinces, probably by development or lesser autonomy. Jaunpur is beyond the 100% mark again, courtesy of AI-Jharkhand with his stupid war in 1508. Bengal and Bahmanis lost 59% and 87% respectively.

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    My economy: Comfortably stable, as before.
    If I compare my 6.5k ducats total debt to my total credit line of about 33k, it is about 20%. I can estimate this max credit quickly by multiplying my income (110 ducats) with 300.

    For those, who like it, a little excurse about economy:
    Forced bankruptcy is, if the monthly interest exceeds the monthly base income. Assuming the standard of 4% interest yearly for a 5-year loan, the total interest of a loan is 20% = 1/5 of the credit. The monthly interest is 1/(5 years * 12 months) = 1/60 of the total interest for the credit. So: max monthly interest * 5 * 60 = max credit.
    Base income is all income displayed in the first six rows in the UI (tax to vassals). So for the correct number I have to subtract the 0.88 ducats war reps I get from Transox. From some event I got a temporary interest reduction of -0.25% yearly. So my interest is 3.75% instead of 4% and thus my true total credit line is: 34,633 ducats. Or as the game displays it: "You can have up to 55 loans" of the current size of 641 ducats.
    My current 11 loans in relation to the max of 55 loans also gives the ratio of 20% for my momentary credit, figured out at the beginning. So for a quick estimation the "multiply by 300" is quite good, I think.

    Expenses: My army is cannon heavy, as always. At this stage of the game it is constantly on full maintenance. Either I am at war, prepare for a war, do some rebel suppression or I am waiting for a rebel break out. Fleet is a hobby, I have even built a flagship. Forts, I have activated most of them, because I plan something. "Root out corruption" is quite big. It scales with the relative development of my empire, so it is groving with every expansion. I have never teched up in Dip, so I have to pay for +0.4 corr yearly "unbalanced research" and also for +0.47 corr yearly by OE atm.
    Inflation: 20.55%, yes. This campaign I have the 'problem' of -65% core cost reduction. So it is way more attractive to upgrade territorial cores to full cores, if I have Adm points available. Result: No points to decrease inflation. But high inflation is not a problem, indeed it seems to be "just a number". Unlike high corruption, because of bad and really bad events.

    Income: The numbers for tax and production look good. My only gold mine in Mewar is at 10 dev in production, fine too. Trade is some problem. I have good control in the four nodes Doab, Lahore, Deccan and Gujarat. But my home node is Doab, so a lot of my trade flows into the wrong direction. From Doab to either Lahore or Deccan and then to Gujarat.
    Should I have 200 Dip points at hand, I can check, if a transfer of the trading port to the Gujarat node will increase the income significantly. But where to take Dip points from? I pay a lot for unjustified demands, too many dip relations and the integration of Kutch.

    From a practical point of view, the reason why I consider my economy as comfortably stable is, that I have about 10 loans for many decades now. I increase my income by expansion and on the other side the loan size increases too. So I simply carry my loans forward, replacing old loans with newer ones of a bigger size. But I neither come closer to a bankruptcy, nor a credit-free situation.

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    Time to tackle Vijayanagar. A few days ago, I added a new ally: Ayutthaya (304 dev, 40/61 regs), even a bit bigger than Qara or Uzbek. I couldn't do so before, because Vijy and Ayutthaya hate each other. Moreover I wanted to keep the alliance with Vijy up to this moment, so I can set him as co-belligerent now, when I declare on Jharkhand.
    Besides his vassal Venad, Vijy just brings in Hindu OPM Kolathunad (red, in Southwest India). The other idea of this war is of course to reset the truces of both Bengal and Bahmanis. So my first goals are to get these two out with white peaces.
    Numbers: Mughals 90 (50/0/40) out of 99, Vijy 47/63, Venad 6/6, Kolathunad 9/10, Bengal 35/40, Bahmanis 22/36 and Jharkhand 9/10 regiments. I am on Tech 9, the major enemies are on Tech 8. So I enjoy +0.25 mil tactics and a more advanced infantry. That is a big war to come and it will be interesting, because Bengal and Bahmanis are in the war against each other, that started about a year ago.

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    First surprise: Bengal joined, Bahmanis didn't. Trilateral (or threeway) wars are possible. If it comes to a battle, the first two arriving armies in a province fight. The third army waits and then fights with the winner. I had this sometimes with native uprisings in colonizable provinces, like in Africa, while chasing a weaker hostile stack.
    I assume, probably Bengal was asked first, because of the tag order and joined. Then the possible trilateral war prevented Bahmanis from joining. I don't think, I could have anticipated that. But this way my two armies (20 and 25 regs) in the west, ready to run into Bahmanis to siege his capital, were misplaced and I have moved them east. Keeping an eye on the Bengali armies.
    Jharkhand's army is eliminated and his capital with a level-1 fort Sonpur is under siege, at +14% progress. My fourth army is in Bengal for the siege of his level-3 fort in the capital Gauda (0%).

    That again! Chagatai opens a coaltion! He came out of our truce in Oct.10, so it is exactly four possible members, with Timurids, Baluchistan, Guge and Chagatai.
    Timurids and Baluchistan indeed join this coalition a few days later. So now I am sure, the current war enemies are somehow counted in favor of the coalition. But is this really a threat to me and my alliance network? I decide to do nothing about it for the moment.

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    I have trampled over both Bengali armies. The first stackwipe in Patna of 14.7k cost me 1.3k casualties, now I got a second stackwipe on 18.7k for a loss of 2k. Although I am just going for a white peace, I decided for the battles, because I want Shia Bahmanis to win against Sunni Bengal. So I invested about 3.3k manpower, not so much.
    My sieges made some progress: Sonpur is on +35% with a wall breach and Gauda is on +14%. Vijy and his friends are moving up the west coast, soon they will ran into one of my forts.

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    White peace with Bengal, the new truce date is Sep.16. I didn't win the siege in Gauda, but the occupation of several unfortified provinces was enough to persuade Bengal to this agreement.

    I got the fort in Sonpur on 28.May.11, so Jharkhand is done. Vijy is sieging my fort in Daulatabad (-28%). I try to catch him, moving more armies over to the west. But currently army movement is slowed down, because we are in the monsoon season. Provinces with severe monsoon get -50% movement speed, regardless if controlled or hostile.

    On 1.Jun.11 I could attain the trading bonus in silk, fulfilling the third age objective for more splendors. On 3.Jun.11 Timurids left the coalition, which thereby collapsed. Again very quickly.

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    Unlucky. Well, not that I have lost the naval battle against Vijy's 9 heavies. But the ruler of Kutch died and some pretender rebels turned up. Accidentally in Porbandar, exactly in the province where I docked my fleet, to be safe from Vijy's. As I couldn't stop the occupation of the province, my fleet had to leave the port and I have to suffer the loss of 1 heavy and several sailors.
    Vijy has given up the siege of Daulatabad and moved to the southwest, before I could accumulate enough troops for the 2:1 superiority. But now it seems both yellow (=Vijayanagari) armies move away to the south, leaving alone the armies of Venad and Kolathunad in the siege of Daman (-64%). I will also send a delegation of 12 regs to deal with the pretenders in Kutch.

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    15.Sep.11, battle of Daman and Vijy's friends have to note 15 dead regiments. The rebels are eliminated too and my vassal is not even trying to liberate his province. He is useless as usual. The two yellow armies seem to head east now for my double forts in Warangal and Khamammet. Beside these forces, the enemies have just 5k more, but probably they will order new units. I have also started to recruit 5 more infantry and my 25-stack is returning from Bengal along the east coast.

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    Now it is my time on the west coast. Vijy has some nasty fort defense modifiers for about +25% to +50% in every province, so everything takes its time. I have started the siege of the level-1 fort in the capital province of Vijayanagar (+14%). One yellow army (13.5k) has indeed moved to my fort in Warangal (-35%). The other (29.1k) turned north, but is now moving south again. For whatever reason Vijy splitted off some small stacks and I caught the first one in Golconda, west of Warangal. By the hand of the 25-stack, after finishing its return from Bengal. Two more small stacks are designated to be toasted very soon.

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    The yellow 2-stack in Andhra. As the UI says, Vijy gets conditional mil access by Bengal as his war ally. But Bengal is out for several months and I don't enjoy the right to move to Andhra. One of these asymmetries in the game, I don't understand. But this is just a side note, not very important here.

    In the south I have started the siege of Malenadu (-14%) too, not with the full cannon bonus yet. Three of my armies are busy in the north east. I killed the two small stacks and Vijy decided to go north once more from Chanda with his bigger army (29.2k), while keeping the siege with the smaller army (13.9k). The moment the big army was locked in, I started to move form Golconda to Warangal, so I will get the hill terrain bonus from my fort in the upcoming battle.

    11.Dec.11: Stackwipe on Vijy for a loss of just 1.4k.

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    Now I put the 30-stack to battle in Mahur, with the proven 25/0/25 setup. I just move 10k more into the province, to get the 2:1 superiority.

    Eight days later this battle ends in another stackwipe, costing me 7.5k infantry. As a consolation for Vijy his manpower pool increases by about 10k, about 1/3 of the lost troops. So I have eliminated all 65k hostile forces in the north. Vijy and friends will rebuild some regiments, but I should be able to concentrate on sieges now.

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    Four months later. The enemies hold a lot of forts. Six level-2 and three level-1 forts. I got that of the province Vijayanagar on 1.Jan.12 already, but just today the fort of Malenadu in the west. All newly recruited enemy troops are moving north along the west coast again. I let them, as I don't have a good superiority in this area. Instead I will move forward south to the next fort in Seringapatam.
    In the east I am busy with two sieges on Penukonda (+42%) and Udayagiri (+35%). 10 cannons for the full bonus and a 3 siege pip general everywhere, that's what I have hired all these people for.
    30 regs stay at home to deal with upcoming rebels. I might call them back to this war as a reinforcement anytime, if needed.

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    I have cracked three more of the forts. Penukonda on 12.Jun.12, Udayagiri on 27.Jul.12 and today, just one day later, Seringapatam in the west. So I can move forward on both sides. Cannanore, Kolathunad's capital, has just a level-1 fort, thus I can reach the last two yellow forts in Dindigul (south) and Gingee (east) now.
    The enemies are not doing anything substantial on my west coast, more moving here and there.

    The war Bahmanis - Bengal is very exhausting for both sides. Currently Bahmanis holds one hostile fort and seems to have the upper hand somewhat. Could be, nothing much will come out of this war, fine for me.

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    Vijy and friends have marched from the west coast back to the northern yellow lands. Two of my armies are just watching them for the moment. In the south, I am sieging Dindigul (0%) and Gingee (+28%), as planned. Cannanore has surrendered. I could even sneak in with my fleet for this day to the Malabar Coast, to overcome the -2 siege malus. My ships will dock now quickly to avoid the naval battle with Vijy, of course.
    Since I want to annex the nasty minor Kolathunad, next I will go for the elimination of his army in Adavani, the 9-stack in the north. As it seems, Vijy's army (24k) lets down his friends once more, running away northern.

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    Nation and armies of Kolathunad are removed from the map, the coring of Cannanore is in progress. The last two forts of Vijy are sieged down, three days ago Gingee, today Dindigul.
    As I want the two provinces from Venad, I have to continue and siege the capital of Vijy's vassal too.
    If Vijy's army would go and sit on one of my forts, I would let it. But as Vijy moves around, apparently headless, it is too tempting and easy to catch him somewhere. Like here again in Bijapur, where at the start of the battle it has been 41 vs 24 regs.

    A few days later: For a change Vijy survives this battle, but has to stop his shattered retreat in the next province to the south, in Savanur. Here another yellow army finds its grave on 27.Jan.13.

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    After more than twelve years: The integration of Kutch is completed. In 1477, my 3PM ally Kutch helped me in wars and against rebels with 10 regs. Now, more than 35 years later the 5PM vassal has passed on just 3 infantry to me. And one of it is a Merc. Sigh.
    I might have expressed my displeasure to play with vassals/subjects one time or the other already before. I won't forget, that Kutch became my vassal for free by diplomacy. But I am glad this chapter of babysitting should be over for this campaign. So many disadvantages.
    In the very south I fight down the last flames of resistance by a freshly recruited 8-stack of Vijy. Occupation of some unfortified provinces and waiting for my siege in Venad (0%) is all, what is left.

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    About three months later the level-1 fort has fallen. In the separate peace deal with Vijayanagar I want all provinces on the west coast. Because there are no claims on the areas Kanara and Malabar in the mission tree, I have to pay a lot of Dip points in some moment anyway. So I do it now. Additionally I grab the inland province Seringapatam with a fort.
    The AE-list contains the same four eligible members for a coalition as before: Baluchistan, Timurids, Chagatai and Guge.

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    A few days later, I agree to a white peace with Jharkhand. Therefore I can (ab)use him in five years again.
    A lot of casualties in this war. My manpower regains by about 800 monthly and I have three "slacken standards" in reserve, for about 19.5k each. So I think, I can recover from this war better than Vijy.

    What is next? Important truces ran out in Jul.15 with Jaunpur and in Sep.16 with Bengal.
    Besides fighting some rebels, like the already erupted Telinganan separatists (15k) in Warangal, I could use the next two years, to pay a visit to my old friend Timurids.
    More about it ... next time.
     
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    Timurids (2nd), Jaunpur (6th) and Bengal (2nd)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 159/255 for THoT

    Last time I attacked the remaining biggest power in India, Vijayanagar. After two years of war I could add thirteen new provinces, all on the west coast. So the Mughal Empire has gotten another tentacle, to the south. An alternative would have been to take two more forts inland and keep OPM Kolathunad alive. Anyway, my reasoning of last time to possibly save some Dip points, isn't very convincing. As it is, I have no fort in the very south and thus I will have more work to do with rebels, as well as in the next war with Vijy.
    Speaking of new wars: My schedule says I have the next dates with Jaunpur in Jul.15 and with Bengal in Sep.16.

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    Timurids again for a change. Not a mandatory war, but a helpful one to make use of the next two years. Twice in recent years coalitions flamed up, when I started wars against bigger nations. So going for a huge victory against Timmy will give me a long truce afterwards. Which should vastly reduce the chance of future coalitions. I have no territorial ambitions in this war, instead I want to give as much land as possible to my friends Uzbek and Qara.

    And then there is the "Ferghana access problem". Ferghana is the blue OPM in the northeast of Timmy and he is allied to Jaunpur. The experience from the horrible war Jharkhand vs Jaunpur plus Ferghana in 1508 revealed, the OPM does nothing to get mil access to come over to his ally. When I have to fight him in a few years, Timmy and Chagatai both hate me endlessly and will never give access to me.
    I could solve this problem with a blackflag trick, like asking Mushasha for fleet access only. Then let my troops walk to Khorasan island, my old four provinces at the Caspian Sea, to activate them again. Next ask Transox, Uzbek and Oirat for land access and finally reach Ferghana. A long way, complicated and time consuming. This war vs Timmy will help me to overcome the Ferghana access problem.

    Numbers check: Mughals 96 (56/0/40) out of 102, Qara 35/61 and Uzbek 25/52 regiments. Enemies: Timurids 57/62, Medina 14/14, Yas 10/10, Bashkiria 9/10 and Guge 7/11. Both my allies should arm themselves a little more. Firstly I will take care of my neighbor Guge (darkblue, in the Himalaya), while Uzbek should overrun his tributary Bashkiria, the green OPM in his west. Timmy will for sure move west, flooding Khorasan island once more and giving pressure to Qara. The Arabs Medina and Yas (both in a somewhat lightred/pink) will go after Qara too, I think.

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    So far everything according to plan. My 20-reg army in Guge has removed the hostile army in the first month of the war and my cannons are sieging the level-1 fort in Ngari (+14%). I have moved 50k to Timmy's lands, the siege of his capital level-3 fort in Herat (0%) is already in progress, while 10 cannons are close to start a second siege on Kish in the north. Timmy won't attack me, I am pretty sure, some of his troops can already been seen in the west.
    My remaining 26 regs stay at home, they have killed the Telinganan separatists (15k) recently and several more rebels are about to come. Uzbek is doing his job on Bashkiria, while I am not sure what the idea of Qara is. Hopefully he isn't doing too stupid things.

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    Guge is out. Following the fall of Ngari on 9.Nov.13 I peaced him out for alot of little stuff to have him on a truce for the next 15 years. Most noteably he lost all his alliances, with Timmy and Tibet. The army, I used for Guge, stays at home now as well. Several rebel factions are on 80-90% progress. The most annoying will be the Delhian separatits, announcing they will break out with 35k. I have a total of 45 regs delegated for them.

    My sieges on Timurids take some time, exceptionally. Herat (+71%) is unwilling to surrender, while I got at least one disease outbreak in Kish (+7%). Uzbek sits on Chelyaba (Bashkiria) with +7% progress as well. He has vital interest in the two northern provinces of Timmy, but as he shows reluctance to go for their occupation, I try to direct him over.

    Qara is indeed under pressure. Medina in the west and Timmy in the northeast have come to his territories. My friend has moved his two armies to safety into the south.

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    17.Jan.14, Herat. I moved a stack of infantry to protect my siege in Kish (+35%). The rest is on Bam (+7%) or next to it. Since 11.Mar.14 Bashkiria is peaced out. Waiting for his willingness to accept his annexation would have taken years, so he can go for some small concessions. A few days later he becomes a tributary of Nogai, I am so sorry, Uzbek.

    Qara is battling Yas. Timmy has removed his troops from sieging Qara's fort and is rushing over to help in this battle. Currently hidden in the fog of war. Some other stacks of Timmy are on the way to Uzbek through Transox, it seems. My men will stay where they are and do their jobs with the sieges.
    The Delhian separatists (35k) have appeared in Upper Doab, my two home guard armies are coordinating to take them on.

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    Bam on 10.Apr.14, Kish on 27.Apr.14.
    In May.14 I killed the rebels, costing me 5.1k. In addition I got a bad event, where I lost 13.7k manpower. One "slacken standards" to refill this, so my loss over the last months has been 5% army professionalism.

    The land battle in Hormuz with the Yasi troops is an easy stackwipe on the other hand. They have been demoralized and wounded after their defeat against Qara. But first I had to use my navy (7/0/0/11) to remove some Timurid transports, to enable the passage of my land forces across the strait. Now my army can freely move on to the Arabian peninsula.

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    In the south I occupied Yas and 20 regs are on the way to Medina, currently passing through Dawasir. In the north I have liberated Khorasan island and the main army (21 regs) is going west for the last fort of Timmy, Kashan.
    At home more rebels have erupted, this time Garhi separatists. After defeating an 8-stack in Mandla, the 22-stack in Mahakoshal will be next. I have six more rebel factions to break out soon. But after that the situation should get somewhat better, as coring of the recent conquests from Vijy is almost completed.

    On 14.Jul.14, after more than four years, the war Bahmanis vs Bengal ended. Bengal lost his two isolated provinces in the Garjat area. I would have preferred a white peace, but a small victory of Shia Bahmanis is way better, than Sunni Bengal winning.

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    Since 12.Oct.14 Yas is out and he has no friends no more. I try to isolate all the secondary war participants, hoping someone will eat them up. The fewer nations on the map, the fewer potential members for a coalition.

    In Medina I have both forts under siege, Madinah with a level-1 fort on +35% and Yanbu' al-Bahr with a coastal level-2 fort on -28%. Kashan in Persia is on +28% for me, the main Uzbek army arrived in the region and Timmy is trying to liberate some less important provinces. Medina's troops sit on Mosul in the west of Qara (-14%), making progress over time, but little.
    In Mughals India meanwhile 50k are in the home defense and constantly busy with rebels. I have to pay my acquisation costs in form of manpower for annexing the many provinces in earlier years.

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    On 23.Jan.15 Timmy's last ally Medina left the war, after the fall of his capital four days before. No opportunity for the real hajj to Mecca, held by Mamluks, but at least the Muslim Mughals visted (and conquered) Madinah once in their life.
    I may not forget my date with Jaunpur and Ferghana in July this year. So after sieging down Kashan on 21.Feb.15 my troops in Persia are moving east. Except 3 regs in the very west, trying to occupy some unfortified provinces for Qara.

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    Jaunpur is on 125% province score, so I can't fully annex him in one go, but it is time to become "Emperors of Hindustan" and unify the Hindustani culture. Means taking the five isolated provinces in the west will give me the rewards for an important mission, another age objective and the culture group bonus of -10% coring cost, because of the Mughal Diwan.
    The main Jaunpuri 11-stack must be hidden in the east. My 21-reg army in Rohtasgarh will going to meet it, before I take care of the smaller stacks and the level-3 fort in the capital Jaunpur. Because I am still in the war with Timmy, I can simply march over to Ferghana with my 22-stack, currently four provinces away, in a south-westerly direction.

    Interesting news from South India: On 05.May.15 Andhra declared war on Orissa. As no one has friends to help this should be an about balanced war.

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    My army has arrived in Uzkend, the province of Ferghana. Thus I can dictate my conditions for the peace with Timurids. I give as much as I can to my friends. Three provinces for Qara and two for Uzbek. Highly unfortunately they don't want more, modest AIs. Sigh. I give back Bam with the fort in the south to Baluchistan and Kish with another fort plus Kulob to Transoxiana. Despite several confrontations in the past, Transox is on highly friendly terms with me, so I might use him for mil access in the future.
    I had way more warscore to distribute more provinces of Timmy to other nations, but Qara and Uzbek signaled their displeasure towards such ideas. So I fill up with money for everyone and get a truce until Sep.1530.

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    A very easy war vs Jaunpur. After eliminating Ferghana's army and winning the siege of Uzkend, the OPM accepted peace on 16.Sep.15. No more allies for Ferghana either. In Jaunpur everything is done, except sieging the level-3 fort in the capital. I have shortly interrupted the siege to finish the next phase with the full cannon bonus of +5.
    Rebels everywhere. Maratha separatists are on 100%, that is on the west coast. My 40-regs home guard, possibly supported by 11 transports will be the fire brigade.

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    Jaunpur's fort has fallen already on 12.Dec.15, but I intentionally waited to get a year's tick on the AE-reduction on all nations, before this is temporarily decreased by my upcoming overextension.
    Besides the five Hindustani provinces I take the four provinces in the east, which I need to fulfill the next mission "Bengal Campaign". I return Danim to Jharkhand once more. After Bengal lost the two provinces to Bahmanis, he wasn't neighboring Jharkhand anymore, so his guarantee on the minor expired. I take care he has a chance to renew this guarantee.
    Coalition list: Andhra, Baluchistan and Chagatai. Just three, no more Timurids or Guge.

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    Some months later, the day to start the next war has come.
    Bengal is on 207% province score, his army is 30/37, no match for the Mughals with 95 (55/0/40) out of 110 regs. But his fleet is 37 (12/24/0/1), better than mine with 21 (9/0/0/12) ships. He has three forts and some problems with pretender rebels. All in all a fairly easy war. The question will be, how much can I take from him AE-wise. As a minimum I want six provinces in the areas Gaur and North Bengal, the second half of the mission "Bengal Campaign". That is why I set the capital Gauda as the wargoal.

    As hoped on 5.May.16 Bengal indeed guaranteed Jharkhand, thus I will not destroy this border by taking Lakhnor. But there is a new problem in the region. Jaunpur upgraded his guarantee on Keonhjar to an alliance. But then ... the yellow OPM rivaled Jaunpur! Because I reduced Jaunpur too much. So atm I have no angle to finish off the 2PM Jaunpur quickly. However let's think about this later.

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    I have found one Bengali army in Rangpur. Eliminating the pretender rebels in Gauda will be very useful, as I can take over their siege progress. My remaining 17-stack is moving east to look out for the other Bengali army. As usual, 25 regs are set aside for home defense somewhere in the wide lands of Mughals India.

    Just three days later both battles end with stackwipes and Gouda's fort surrenders to me, thanks to the preliminary work of the rebels.

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    All reachable unfortified provinces are under my control, the sieges in Chakla (east, +35%) and Satgaon (west, +42%) are on good progress. I could march a long way around the fort in Chakla to kill the remaining Bengali troops, but I don't need to, as they are pretty harmless.
    For Satgaon I would like to get the coastal siege bonus from my navy. But after letting his weaker fleet losing, Bengal decides to come out of port with his main fleet (11/11/0/0). I could win such navy encounters against the AI, but only at the cost of serious losses. Which makes no sense in this situation, so I will send my 9 heavies to dock again.

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    Nothing special about the final part of this war. On 11.Jan.17 Satgaon and on 16.Feb.17 Chakla came under my occupation.
    Besides the six provinces in the west, I want to take three provinces in the east, giving me another fort, an east-west connection to the Tripura area and a port in the Bengal Delta. 99 new development, almost the maximum.

    The AE-list looks scary, as some nations appear for the first time. Yet the situation is better than it looks on first sight. Eligible members are: Andhra, Baluchistan, Chagatai, Hormuz, Keonhjar, Sulu and Tunis. Nations like Ajuuraan or Malinda don't know about the Mughals, so they can't flip to "outraged", one of the mandatory conditions to join a coalition. My diplomats worked very hard, to prevent nations like Mamluks, Morocco or Pasai to join. Soon they will have persuaded Sulu and Tunis to abandon their negative opinion of me as well. Which leaves just five minor nations.

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    The deal is signed. Coring will take 9 to 13 months. The mission "Bengal Campaign" is completed, thus I get claims on the rest of Bengal.

    News from other nations: Timmy attacked Ferghana, already in Dec.15. Uzbek transferred the two provinces, he got from Timmy, to his tributary subject Transoxiana. Chagatai declared on Guge and just a few days ago Oirat declared on Chagatai, who will be helped in his defense by my friend Uzbek. So my policy of isolating former war enemies set things in motion. My big friend Ottoman is close to a complete victory against Mamluks. Andhra is leading vs Orissa, but he has to take the fort in the hills of Balasore, if he wants to make gains. So two from the coaltion list are busy with wars, I should be fine.

    I have no truces with Andhra and Keonhjar and in Jul.18 I could also attack Jharkhand again.
    For sure I will somehow make use of these options ... next time.
     
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    Andhra, Bahmanis (3rd) and Vijayanagar (2nd)

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 177/255 for THoT

    Eighteen more provinces on behalf of Jaunpur and Bengal in the recent years. The pace of conquests is rising and I don't see much, that could stop the Mughals at this point.
    The province score of the remaining three biggest nations: Vijayanagar 288%, Bahmanis 201% and Bengal 97% (plus 1 prov in Burma for 16%). Meanwhile I fulfill four age objectives (convert provinces, convert another nation, trading bonus in silk and unified home culture), thus I produce 9 splendors a month. In Jul.18 I will be able to pick the age ability "Religious Wars", giving -25% province score vs other religions. So the size of some nations will shrink, helping me a lot in my warfare.

    The diplomatic situation: Andhra is allied to Keonhjar and guaranteed by Bahmanis and Vijy. Keonhjar is guaranteed by Orissa furthermore. Jharkhand is allied to Vijy and guaranteed by Bengal plus Bahmanis and we have a truce until Jul.18. Orissa is guaranteed by Bahmanis, here the truce expires in Aug.23. Jaunpur is protected by no one, but our truce until Mar.31. Tricky constellations.

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    Unrest and battles with rebels in the last four years.

    This keeps me busy just as wars for some time now.
    Former strategies don't work anymore. I have lost the beloved "Feudal de Jure"-edict some years ago and rebel suppression by my armies is at best mildly helpful. I simply have so many provinces with significant unrest, that I can delay the progress of rebel factions a bit, but I can't stop it anymore.
    So the strategy for some years now has been to let the rebels break out and kill them. My many forts come in helpful for this. Even if the rebels succeed in occupying an unfortified province, almost all of them are in a ZOC of a fort. So that province doesn't get the additional +5 unrest of separatism. If I catch the rebels, before they conquer one of my forts, I have pacified these provinces for 10 years. After that, separatism has decayed and said provinces shouldn't rebel a second time. Thus in the long run the problem with rebels will be solved.
    Short-term this means delegating one or two of my armies for this job and moving them across my empire to the next rebellion. My home guard or home defense, which I can afford well meanwhile. The armies of my enemies shrink, as I steal their lands, while my FL goes up. Yes, I need some money and manpower for reinforcements, but that is what I call acquisition costs for conquered provinces. An investment for the future.

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    Besides fighting rebels, I have used the past six months to improve relations with several nations. Sulu and Tunis aren't outraged anymore and thus out of coalition range.
    So I decide to start the war on Andhra and friends now. Once this war is over, I plan to declare on Jharkhand and his friends. Both, Andhra and Jharkhand, bring in Bahmanis and Vijayanagar. Therefore it makes no sense to go for a white peace with these two bigger powers now in the first war. Instead I will go for some kind of grab on these secondary participants. Presently I don't know, how much I can take. This will be dependant on OE, AE and province score. With the latter changing during this war in Jul.18. Currently I have the AE-problems with the Sunni nations, so serious grabs from Shia Bahmanis and Hindu Vijy should be possible.
    Keonhjar has just collapsed to rebels, but will join despite no army. I set him as co-belligerent, as his protector Orissa won't defend him anyway, because Orissa is still at war with Andhra.

    Numbers: Mughals 95 (55/0/40) out of 115, Vijy 25/47, Bahmanis 22/36, Andhra 15/16 and Keonhjar 0/9 regiments.
    First I go for the occupations of Andhra and Bahmanis, ignoring Vijy in the beginning. One army in the west (28k) is for Bahmanis' capital Bidar, the main army in the south (20k) is for Andhra's heartlands, while two armies in the east (13k and 20k) are to eliminate the Andhran army, sieging in Orissa. I have already access by Orissa, but the second 13-stack needs another day and I wait until the two armies are united, before going into the attack.
    As I need every troop for this inital stage of the war, I have no home defense, so the 29 regs of Oudh separatists have to wait. But they have broken out next to a fort and I have no reason to rush over.

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    Andhra's army is done swiftly in Cuttack, Orissa's capital. A bit surprising the main Bahmani army was in his eastern provinces. While it tried to run away from my small stacks, it is now next to my 20-stack in Khamammet. It will get one monthly tick of morale before my combined armies (7k and 20k) will arrive for the battle, but as it has been drilling, it will be in a lousy condition.
    I started the sieges on Mayurbanhj (-14%), the level-1 fort of Keonhjar, and on the level-3 fort in Bidar (0%).

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    The Bahmani army in Andhra was able to move one province further to the southwest, but didn't survive for long in the battle of Konaseema.
    Vijy has gone southwest with everything he has. Furthest away from me, typical AI. Some Bahmani small stacks try to do something on my west coast too. I got a disease outbreak in Mayurbanhj. War business as usual.

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    1518 is the year for a new level of technology. So I take Mil Tech 10, which gives better units for cavalry and artillery. All enemies are on Mil Tech 8, their armies are somewhat outdated, I would say.
    If the rebels erupt close by, like here in Chanda, I can deal with them in passing. My sieges: Mayurbanhj +14% with full cannon bonus now, Bidar +7%, Kondavidu (level-2 fort in the hills of Andhra) 0% and Konaseema (level-1 fort on Andhra's coast) -14%.
    In this war I definitely suffer from the lack of my spy-networks for siege ability. All diplomats are busy making other nations happy, no time to spy. Everywhere I have to face +25% to +60% fort defense modifiers. I am helped a bit by my +6.2% siege ability from the difference in mil tactics, but all in all the siege phases take their time.
    In the west I try to make use of my navy (10/0/0/14), however it is tough against Vijy's fleet(9/8/0/19). In the east I get some help from Orissa, whose little fleet seems to sink Andhra's. Well, just fair, as I have helped him too.

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    Keonhjar is done, as Mayurbhanj fell on 20.Jan.18. Orissa has sent his ships back to port, so no bonus for a blockade on the coastal fort of Andhra. Sigh. Nevertheless I am on +21% in Konaseema and on +49% including a wall breach in Kondavidu. Vijy's 15-stack is isolated and he is bluffing. I have started to send over 15k to Velanadu, so I am sure Vijy's army will stop and shy away from fighting 20k of mine.
    In the west the enemies have retreated, as I started to move some troops over. In particular I am waiting for the surrender of Bidar (+28%).
    In the southwest my fort in Seringapatam is under the siege of Vijy (-14%), may the enemies be busy with my provinces here.

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    After 221 days, on 20.May.18, Bidar finally gave up its resistance. I have ordered 40k back for home defense to deal with the Oudh rebels, sieging my fort in Khairabad, way north from the war.
    30 regs are supposed to hold the line in Bahmanis. After the fall of Kondavidu on 13.Jun.18, that army (14k) has moved forward to Vijy's fort in Udayagiri (+7%). 5 cannons are still busy with Konaseema (+71%). Orissa's fleet is out of port, but again not supporting my siege. Well.

    Finally arrived this day: "Religious Wars", the age ability for -25% province score vs other religions. Let's see the new numbers: Vijayanagar 198%, Bahmanis 137% and Bengal 66% (plus 1 prov in Burma for 11%). I either forgot or never knew, that this reduction works on the level of provinces not on nations. As all provinces are Hindu and AIs don't convert, I get the full reduction also on Sunni Bengal. Fine.

    So with these new information, I can lay out my overall strategy.
    For Bengal it is one war. I will be able to reset the momentary longtime truce with him by the next war on Jharkhand. Because Bahmanis is below 150%, I can finish him off with three "full half-grabs". As secondary participant I can take up to 50% province score (= half-grab) in one war from him. He is guaranteeing Jharkhand and Orissa, so two more chances in the near future to get full half-grabs.
    Vijy is below 200%, so I can try two full half-grabs and one direct war. One half-grab now and the next, when he will help his ally Jharkhand. For the last war on Vijy and on 2PM Jaunpur I have no solution for the moment. Either waiting years or truce breaking, as it looks like.

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    Vijy conquered my fort in the southwest, he was sieging for almost a year. Peanuts.
    On 29.Jul.18 I got the last fort in Andhra. The siege on Udayagiri has progressed to +35% and my armies in Bahmanis have started the siege on Mudgal (+14%). I defeated the Oudh separatists and my two returning armies, each with 20 regs, are marching over to take care of the many small stacks, the enemies are presenting in Northern Bahmanis.

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    Mudgal was done quickly after just 73 days on 24.Oct.18. As I want to be really greedy against Bahmanis, I have to occupy his entire lands. My two additional armies are stiring up the hostile forces like chickens. They are all running south as fast as possible. Too late for the Bahmani 9-stack in Sholhapur, it will die.
    Jharkhand's Condottieri are weak, but they could cause a little annoyance e.g. by sieging in Keonhjar.

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    As Bahmanis is finally on low war enthusiasm, he is willing to give me 99%. So I can take eight provinces, which I need all for the next missions from the tree.
    Once more the AE-list looks worse than it is. Theoretically these nations could form a coalition: Jharkhand, Baluchistan, Chagatai, Hormuz and Maldives. East Africa still doesn't know about the Mughals, so I don't need to be afraid of Kilwa and others. Chagatai has vassalized Guge, but is still defending against Oirat. Maldives is new, I can't keep the OPM out anymore with just improving relations. Thus four minors is all for the moment, so this is harmless.

    Jaunpur has found a new ally, Timurids. Sigh. Helps me nothing as I have also a long truce with Timmy until Sep.30. The two nations were long time allies, until I forced the break of their treaty in 1507. But I wasn't sure, that Timmy would re-ally Jaunpur, because Jaunpur is reduced to a 2PM and really far away from Timurids. If I just didn't attack Timmy some years ago. Well, it is what it is.

    Before the peace deal with Bahmanis, I have invested 524 Adm points in Adm Tech 10. A short check revealed, I get more monthly money from +20% prod eff and -0.05 yearly corruption, than if I invest eight times in reducing inflation by 2% for the prize of 67 Adm points each. Interesting.
    Moreover I can chose a new idea group. As the campaign won't last for many more years, I should think about short-term effects.. I pick "Efficent Spies", so Espionage Ideas. Somehow many nations like to defend against me and my spies by designating a diplomat to "counter-espionage". Atm Jaunpur, Bahmanis and Vijy. Recently I complained about the lack of siege ability against the latter two, so the +50% spy network construction from the idea supports me a lot.
    In general I think, Espionage is treated too badly by many players. Meanwhile I have some liking for the group.

    Directly after sending the peace deal, I use the prestige gain of +15.5, I will get the next day, to disinherit Shah Sujah (2/3/4). One of the very few things, that could ruin this campaign is a regency council. So getting a new baby heir, than King and Queen dying, is possible. Otoh an heir in the same age as the ruler contains some danger too. Padishah Rafi' (2/4/5) is aged 34, his wife Meenakshi (4/6/5) aged 32. Let's see what the future brings.

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    Back to the war. Full concentration on Vijayanagar now. I got Udayagiri on 26.Dec.18 and my army moved forward to the next siege in Penukonda (7%). My double army on the west coast overrolled the remaining small Andhran stack. In the next province to the southeast Vijy is sieging my hilly fort in Malenadu (-42%) with 16k, while the other 15k are moving away. Ok, I think that's an invitation.

    14 days later one more hostile army is lost.

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    Forward, step by step. As I am going for another full half-grab, I have to occupy almost everything from Vijy. Just like with Bahmanis before, secondary participants are a bit more reluctant to give up. But I have some time anyway, as I need some months to core away the 62 OE from the Bahmani provinces.
    The event in the background is "Justify my War!", for -20% unjustified demands and -5% AE. Not so bad, I suppose.

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    So Vijy's capital has fallen. Gingee in the southeast is on +21%. Beside my sieges I try to block the escape routes for my enemies, especially along both coasts. I want to push the hostile forces back to the very last corner.

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    After the liberation of Seringapatan on 31.Jul.19, I am sitting now on the two last forts. Gingee (east +57%) and Dindigul (west +21% incl a wall breach). I increased my forces by 5 infantry to the nice symmetric 100 (60/0/40). As always, if some troops are missing in the war region, they are busy with home defense. In May in the west vs Baglani separatits, now they have to care of 37 regs Bengali rebels in Gauda, in the very east.

    What is this? Vijy trying something with his army by naval transfer?
    Well, without the support of his remaining 4 heavies, this is not the best idea, I think.

    A few days later Vijy's fleet escapes the battle, on the very first chance. Thereby at least avoiding losses of ships and troops.

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    On 15.Oct.19 Gingee was sieged down, now Dindigul. But Vijy still can't see the light, so I have to occupy the rest of his provinces as well. As he isn't testing my naval superiorty, I can walk over to Sri Lanka/Ceylon. No need to battle with his two armies in the west.

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    The coring of the Bahmani province is done, I can take 69 new OE. Nine provinces, in particular I do some sneaking to get all four level-2 forts, which will ease my life for the next wars.
    Possible coalition: Jharkhand, Baluchistan, Chagatai, Maldives and Hormuz. Exactly the same situation as one year before. The biggest nation of these, Chagatai, is still fighting with Oirat. Looks harmless to me.

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    And so the peace with Vijayanagar is concluded. Andhra is 53 OE, therefore the final deal of this war has to wait. Probably until May.21, when the new cores are created.

    After the latest conquests on Bahmanis and Vijy, some questions arise. What is the new size of the remaining Indian nations? Does it make sense to attack Jharkhand next or is it better to wait?
    The answers ... next time.
     
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    Jharkhand (2nd) and Orissa
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    Jharkhand (2nd) and Orissa

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    Indian provinces: Mughals 194/255 for THoT

    The last episode saw the notable addition of seventeen provinces for the Mughals and notable losses for Bahmanis plus Vijayanagar. Andhra is fully occupied, so his full annexation is just a question of time.
    The final rest of Indian nations by province score: Vijayanagar 158%, Bahmanis 93% and Bengal 66% (plus 1 prov in Burma for 11%). Although I just made a full half-grab on Vijy, I didn't press him below 150%. That is because the province score contains a reductive modifier, representing the size of the nation. If a nation shrinks, this modifier goes down, so the score of each province goes up a bit. But over all provinces the effect for Vijy is now after the lost war an increase from 149% to 158%.
    So I need two direct wars against him. Bahmanis has given up his guarantee on Orissa, for some unknown reason. Thus my plan of finishing him off by two full half-grabs is crossed as well.

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    New situation, new plan: Truce reset all three friends of Jharkhand. So sometime in 1525 I can attack each of them as primary participant for full grabs.
    What do my eyes see in the west? A drilling Bahmani army next to my 27-stack. What bad luck, Bahmanis, I am so sorry. In the east I have placed two armies (25k and 15k) at the borders of Bengal. They have been close by anyway, as they have killed the Bengali separatists in Gauda in Dec.19.
    By just going for white peaces against the big nations, this war should be a quick affair.

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    The Bahmani army survived 3 days, the Bengali not much longer. Jharkhand gets a bit of fool freedom, but certainly not for long.

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    And this is already the last of the white peaces. Bahmanis on 25.May.20 and Bengal on 11.Jun.20 accepted it before. A little bit of eliminating armies, occupying unfortified provinces and sitting on the remaining forts. Nothing more to do than that.

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    I removed Jharkhand's army on 4.Sep.20 in the capital Sonpur and after 100 days the siege of the level-1 fort has just succeeded.
    As I don't need Jharkhand anymore, I demand his full annexation. 11 development doesn't cause much AE and OE. So I can core these provinces alongside the ones, I took over from Vijy in March.

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    Half a year later, most cores of Vijy's former provinces are done. So I have some space in the coring pipe and can take new OE. Full annexation of Andhra and Keonhjar in one go it is.
    The traditional check of the AE-list: Baluchistan, Chagatai, Maldives, Hormuz and Tibet. Jharkhand has disappeared because of his annihilation, Tibet makes a comeback. My "Influence Nation" on Tibet has expired, but I see no reason to renew it.

    During the war I lost 2 heavies, but I also wrecked Vijy's fleet down to 4 heavies, so the next time I should have the naval superiorty right from the start with my fleet of (9/0/0/15).

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    Ok, Jaunpur guarantees Keonhjar. Fine.
    Wait a second. The last screenshots documented the annexation of Keonhjar. So why is the yellow OPM alive and why has Jaunpur grown from two to six provinces?
    The problem of how to finish off Jaunpur has been nagging me for a while. When I last left him in Jan.16, he was stripped off any allies, but hold a guarantee on Keonhjar. However, soon after Keonhjar rivaled Jaunpur and I correctly concluded this being my fault, having reduced Jaunpur too much.

    Thereupon I did a little testing in a non-ironman game with console commands in 1444. How big must a neighbor of 4-dev Keonhjar be, so the OPM isn't allowed to rival him? Surprisingly the answer is: at least 60 dev. Yes right, a 4-dev OPM can rival nations up to 15 times bigger than himself.
    Using this information, I can try something in this campaign. Via the province interface I returned four provinces to Jaunpur (Varansi, Ghazipur, Pataliputra and Hajipur), upgrading him form 23 to 64 dev. Then I returned Mayurbhanj the same way to its former owner; Keonhjar. This way I have reset all relations of the resurrected Keonhjar. Neiter does he hate me, nor is he rivalry towards Jaunpur. Part one worked, Jaunpur is guaranteeing Keonhjar. I think this was likely, as he did that before. Nevertheless I can't exclude a new rivalry between the two nations.

    The entire procedure cost me 5 * 10 prestige and resulted in a truce with Keonhjar until Sep.26. Vijy and Keonhjar signed an alliance in the meantime. Therefore my plan is now: Once the truce is up, attack Vijy and co-belli Keonhjar, which brings in Jaunpur as secondary participant. So I can finish Jaunpur off, if he is below 50% province score. With all I have given him, he is now on 47%. That's why I didn't want to give him even more.
    Meanwhile I have sent warnings to Bahmanis, Bengal, Orissa and Jaunpur. So please, nobody attacks no one. Within five years some things may happen. Maybe it works, maybe not.

    As I have nothing to do besides rebels until the truce with Orissa is up in Aug.23, I lowered the maintenance for my army. Mostly for fun I just have rented out a 20-stack (10/0/10) as Condottieri for Chagatai. To help him and my friend Uzbek a bit against Oirat and his vassal Mongolia.

    Northeast of India Tsang has made a reappearance on the map. Because Tibet lost bitterly against Mong Yang and was forced to release Tsang. Quickly Orissa and Tsang agreed to an alliance. Well.

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    Rebels, less than in the years before, but still ... quite a few.

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    7.5k hours in the game and finally I come up with a simple idea. Rebels receive all values and modifiers from their nation of origin, except morale. If I choose a unit type for my troops, rebels get the same. So now I have picked for cavalry the weakest type available, "Indian Cavalry" from Tech 1. As I haven't used any cavalry in this campaign, my armies aren't effected at all, but the rebels suffer a bit in quality.
    Later I got to know, that this is an old trick, discovered many versions before. However somehow forgotten, it seems. Not necessarily a giant leap forward, but helpful for masses of rebels, I think.

    My Condottieri contract already ended. I liberated the wargoal, an unfortified province in Western Chagatai and then Oirat gave up with some concessions on 5.Mar.22. Well, the war started five years ago, so this was supposed to happen.

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    Crisis at the court!
    On 12.Sep.22 the ruling family got a new baby. Humâyûn (3/3/4) with an average claim became the new heir, which is ok. But now the Padishah Begum (Queen) Meenakshi (4/6/5) has died at the age of 37. Thus if the Padishah dies, a regency council would take over. Meaning I can't declare wars, the worst case scenario.
    So let's send out all diplomats quickly to arrange royal marriages, until the Mughals get a new queen!

    On 13.Mar.23 friend Uzbek lends a helping hand and 20-year old Rafiqa Shaybanid (5/2/6) arrives to become the new Padishah Begum. So that the mini-crisis is mastered within a few days.

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    Tsang has no allies, so I can set him as co-belli for free.
    The truce with Orissa already ended on 1.Jul.23, one month before the time displayed by the UI. Sigh. I intentionally hadn't placed my armies directly at the borders, but one province distant. Two level-2 forts, Balasare in Orissa and Shigatse in Tsang, were mothballed. Yet with the end of the truce, Orissa has activated his fort. Although I started moving my troops thereupon, I can't reach that fort anymore within this month. Well, not a drama in the current situation, but on other occasions not so amusing.

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    Orissa's army is removed, the sieges have started. The level-1 fort in Cuttack is on +14%, the other fort in Balasare on +21%. At least this late in the game I can use my fleet for the naval blockade bonus on coastal forts.
    In Tsang, I could get to the fort in Shigatse late in July. Here I will go for the siege of the level-1 fort in his capital Lhasa next. Tsang's army may move around a bit.

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    I allowed Tsang to get out of the war in Dec.22 for some money already.
    As the last fort in Balasore has resigned a few days ago, I can fully annex Hindu Orissa this day.
    The possible coalition: Baluchistan, Chagatai, Maldives, Hormuz, Tibet, Bali and Kutai. The last two nations, Hindu OPMs from Indonesia, are new. My diplomats already know what to do.

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    With the province Srikakulam from Orissa I can complete the mission "Riches of Golconda", giving me several nice rewards like 1000 ducats and perma claims for five areas, still held by Vijayanagar.

    The truces with Bengal, Bahmanis and Vijy all expire in 1525/26. The campaign is coming to an end in a hurry, it seems like. Well, there is always a chance, a new problem arising from somewhere. Let's see ... next time.
     
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