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KHAN OF ALL THE RUSSIAS

An All the Russias mod Mongolian AAR.

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Mongolia! A land which in the past made the world tremble, when the knees of men and the earth itself both shook at the pounding approach of the Mongol hordes. Mongolia! Land of warriors and mysticism, the Heart of Asia. Mongolia! Land of the great Khans, masters of mankind.

But that was the past. In the centuries since, the Mongols have fallen on harder times, and had ultimately been subjugated by the Chinese.

But the Mongol Empire was not the only one to fall. As both the Chinese and Russian Empires collapsed in the second decade of the twentieth century, an opportunity arose for Mongolia to reassert itself. An opportunity seized upon by a most unlikely and dangerous individual.

Baron Roman Friederich Nickolaus von Ungern-Sternberg was born in Austria, raised in Russian Estonia and became an officer in the Tsar's cavalry. He served in the Great War with distinction, though some considered him reckless, even insane due to a head wound received in a drunken duel years earlier. No one realized the true nature of the effect caused by the saber blow however - no one, that is, besides Grigori Rasputin.

During times they were both in St. Petersburg Sternberg and Rasputin became acquainted. The Mad Monk immediately recognized the potential in the young officer and took him on as a private disciple. Together they delved deeper into mysticism and their burgeoning powers of mesmerism.

Rasputin was not a popular man in some circles, and Russia's difficulties in the Great War intensified the hatred of his enemies. Finally in 1916 he was slain by Prince Felix Yusupov and his associates while Sternberg was away at the front. Even if Sternberg had been in the capital during that fateful time it is doubtful the conspirators would have acted against him. He was known to meet with and associate with Rasputin, true, but so had many others. They did not realize what a viper they still had in their midst.

Soon afterwards came the Revolutions and the Civil War. While nominally an officer on the side of the 'Whites', the Bloody Baron seized the opportunity to take Mongolia for himself, along with a section of the Trans-Siberian railroad. The weakened Russia that emerged from the fight with the Bolsheviks was unable to press the issue, as it was unable to do with Transamur, Poland and other breakaway regions.

So it was that Mongolia gained a new Khan. A Khan equally well-versed in ancient mysticism, the mysteries of mesmerism and mentalism, and the principles of modern industrialized warfare. A reincarnation of the great Genghis, updated for the 20th century.

A new age had dawned for Mongolia, and the world. For the next decade and a half he transformed Mongolia into a military and industrial powerhouse. By 1936 he judged the time right. Once more a cry was heard across Asia, a cry that inspired flight and fear in all who heard it.

"The Mongols are coming!"

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Welcome one and all!

This is an AAR using the very entertaining All the Russias mod.

While Russia is nominally at the core of the mod, it also includes an interesting role for one of the period's leading devils, Baron Sternberg, who really did take over Mongolia for a short time before getting caught and executed by the Soviets.

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I set out on this game to see how well Mongolia could do. In vanilla HOI games Mongolia is just a Soviet puppet and rarely plays much of a significant role. But in All the Russias (and presumably in its follow-up mod, Kaiserreich) Mongolia has a much bigger potential.

Starting out, it looked like Mongolia has some advantages and disadvantages.

Pro:
-Pretty good starting IC for a minor power (23 base).
-Good slider positions for aggressive warmongering ('National Socialist').
-Strong, fast army for the time and place. Cav '39 completely outclass the 1918 Infantry most neighbors possess.
-Some weak neighbors, that lead to more weak countries enabling some easy expansion.

Con:
-Some big, powerful and potentially dangerous neighbors - China, Japan, Russia. On the plus side, any one of these could make for a powerful ally to join with.
-Few and pretty weak tech teams. You can't even take advantage of a fifth slot if you ever manage to get to that point.
-Pitiful manpower. Especially early on, you have to husband your manpower very carefully. No big parallel runs of units for Mongolia! Any drawn out conflict will exacerbate this problem as you will quickly run out of manpower for reinforcements.
-Few Generals. Get used to 0/0 leaders if you have to spread your forces thin.

So the basic plan for success is to pick on the weak, attacking anyone I think I can get a quick easy victory over. Anything that looks like it could be a prolonged conflict should be avoided, as the longer it goes on the worse the odds for Mongolia are. An alliance with a major power would be the next step to have a lion to play jackal with and get tasty blueprints from to offset tech weaknesses.

Mongolia's starting economic situation:

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I found that with such short manpower and good IC, you've got the IC to spend on things you might normally put on lower priority like AA guns, forts and the like. You can also build up lots of supplies and can go nuts with offensive supplying units, further increasing their punch. You also can rake in lots of money which can be used to fund extensive diplomatic and espionage diversions if you so desire.
 

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Copycat ;)

As for generals, just give yourself every general from Tuva and Menchinking. And beware of China. They are quite a beast :D
 

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General Hannibal said:
As for generals, just give yourself every general from Tuva and Menchinking
Few generals should be enough - Mongolia doesn't have enough manpower to raise an army capable of conquering the world, so why should he cheat at the very beginning of this AAR?
 

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Jan Skrzetuski said:
Few generals should be enough - Mongolia doesn't have enough manpower to raise an army capable of conquering the world, so why should he cheat at the very beginning of this AAR?

First of all, its not cheating. Mongolia controls Tannu Tuva at the beginning of the AAR, and Tannu Tuva is a national province. It makes sense that generals from there should stay. As for Menchucko, you can just have them move to Mongolia to further the interests of all Mongols.
 

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managed to take all of asia except eastern china & japan, as well as entire europe except britan, spain and scandinavia as mongolia in kaiserreich.
might add that this was done with some custom events, such as a "union" with russia after they were annexed by the germans, so i got their generals, cores on their territory, but lost roughly 95% of my resources and got a huge dissent hit.
very funny game though :)
 

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OK, I get it. Assuming this is alternative history, everything is possible, right? ;) But I don't agree about Mengkukuo - there are some imported Japanese generals on the list and they just don't fit here. But if sonoftaurus decides to ally his khanate with the Japs - then I don't see any obstacles.
 

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I should note that as I played the game/thought of the AAR, I had visions of a very pulp-style story, with lots of action and derring-do, strong-jawed heroes battling sinister spies and fiendish cults and whatnot in exotic locales and in the hearts of major cities. Sternberg as the sinister Fu Manchu mastermind directing mesmerism-trained disciples and legions of dastardly minions against his noble (and sometimes less than noble) foes.

Alas, my writing skills are not really up to the task. So just imagine that sort of thing going on in the background as you read. ;)

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Soon after 1936 began, Russia was tossed into turmoil. Kerensky had been assassinated! Acting quickly - or had they known in advance? - General Wrangel and forces loyal to him seized power, crushing resistance to his assumption of the reins of state. Sternberg's old commander was now in charge of Russia, but could he hold on? And what would this mean for Sternberg and Mongolia?

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While Wrangel could be a potential threat, he would not be one immediately. He would need time to consolidate his position and would want his borders and the critical Trans-Siberian railway link peaceful. With Russia looking inward, Mongolia prepared to move against its neighbors to the south.

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Two weeks after his coup, Wrangel installed Prince Yusupov as Prime Minister. Sternberg's former commander and now the killer of his former mentor, Rasputin, were leading Russia. By now the links between Rasputin and Sternberg were better known, and some were doubtless counseling a similar solution to the problem of the upstart self-styled Khan. When Russia was strong enough, an issue to be dealt with to be sure. But it was not deemed of immediate import. After all, what could Mongolia really do to mighty Russia?

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In March, while Asia crept closer to war, Europe leapt over the precipice. Germany moved into the verboten Rhineland region and sparked war with Poland and France. Could Hitler stave off his enemies when Germany was hardly prepared for such a conflict?

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Also in the news, overshadowed by the events in central Europe, Admiral Kolchak of Transamur made another demand for Russia to cede the Far East to him. It was something of a ritual, as he had made many such demands in the past, and would make many more in the years to come. Rumors in diplomatic circles that the Transamurian foreign ministry had stacks of post-dated demands ready to go for years to come were lent credence when one such ultimatum was delivered to Moscow with a date three years in advance. While the official explanation was an unfortunate transcription error, jokes about Kolchak's amazing foresight made the rounds in the embassies.

At the end of March, the crisis in China between the Nationalists and Communists seemed to subside.

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Meanwhile in Germany all was quiet on the Western Front, but Poland had taken the isolated East Prussia and prepared to drive into Germany proper.

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As the Rhineland War raged, Wrangel and Yusupov continued to consolidate their position in Russia, centralizing power as much as possible, enabling a few men at the center access to the levers of influence and control that could move all of Russia.

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In this environment few paid much attention to the Mongol invasion of Sinkiang. Better he occupy himself with that instead of causing real trouble, no? Let him get sucked into China and see if he can ever find his way out.

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Poland continued to push into Germany. Back in Sinkiang, Sternberg consolidated control in Sinkiang, though it would remain somewhat restless. By a combination of continued troop presence, destroying rebellious tribes and marrying the daughters of tribal leaders who cooperated he brought Mongolia's new provinces into line. In July, Europe was again assailed as Spain flared into civil war.

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A very confident Hitler sends aid to the Nationalists in Spain. Many question the decision to send troops and arms to Spain when they are desperately needed in Germany, but others see this as an admission that Germany is lost and an attempt to maintain a core of dedicated soldiers outside the reach of Poland and France. A force in exile that might someday return.

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Not long afterwards, the Treaty of Potsdam ended the Rhineland War - and Hitler's dominance of Germany.

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Well, so much for the Nazis. I had hoped that they might do well, though with war in 1936 I had serious doubts. With a strong Germany, they would eventually likely clash with Russia and would make good allies for Mongolia. Alas, the two charismatic madmen would not be able to join forces this time.

So, my thoughts turn to Japan. If they do well in China, I could ally with them and pick up some gains for myself. With Japan covering Mongolia's flank and holding down the bulk of the Chinese forces, Mongolia could quickly overrun Xibei San Ma and drive into the Chinese rear. We'll see how that goes.

Sinkiang was a pushover to take, but is a restive possession. With limited manpower it's tough to properly garrison, but most of it is worthless anyways except as a way to get to other places. :p
 

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Maybe now you'll get an expansionist Poland?
 

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Boy that's a strong Poland! :eek:

Well there is still Wrangel to fight, don't worry. :)
 

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Continuing the bloody year 1936 had been, war breaks out again in China, this time in the south.

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Shanxi soon joins the Nationalists in the war on Guangxi. A month later, Guangxi surrendered.

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Poland's tendrils reach deeper into Europe, though some resist:

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The newly formed 'Warsaw Pact' consists of Poland, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.

On October 20, the Nationalists (with the aid of Italy and displaced Germans) finish off their Republican rivals and declare victory in the Spanish Civil War.

The following month Mongol forces pour over into Afghanistan. While many bravely resist and the mountain fighting is treacherous, the outcome is never in doubt.

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While Mongol armies subjugate the Afghans, Poland expands the Warsaw Pact up the Baltic coast:

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In early December, Armenia lay claim to large areas based on archaeological claims. Her neighbors of course ignored the claims, but the pretext was laid.

Back in Urga, the Great Khan thought it was a marvelous idea and quietly laid claim to all 'historically Mongol lands...ie Asia'.

December also saw the completion of the Afghan conquest. Leaders of the various tribes and clans were assembled outside Kabul to receive their new master. The great silver plane passed overhead, and the Khan of Mongolia, Central Asia and Afghanistan parachuted out, drifting down on them like a primitive god descending from the heavens. The rain of gold coins that preceded him were a welcome bounty to those in attendance. Casualties were light, and the families of those killed in the shower of wealth were well compensated. The survivors pledged their fealty to Sternberg-Khan, and as was becoming the custom, betrothed their daughters to him as well, cementing the personal ties of loyalty. Anticipating more conquests, the architects back in the capitol began expanding the palaces.

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Having been outflanked in the south, Turkestan was next to fall. As He had done centuries before, Allah had sent the Mongols to punish men for their wickedness.

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Poland continued to flex its new-found muscle, incorporating huge swathes of the Ukraine into Poland proper. Poland now straddles all of Eastern Europe, from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

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Back in Russia, Wrangel continues to centralize power, tying the army tightly to a unified high command. With growing powers to West and East, it is seen as the best solution to military issues...and also the best way to keep the army easily controllable.

In June Japan comes to blows with China, which quickly forges a unified front against the invaders.

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The following month, the Mongols conquer Persia. By now the fury of the Mongols in war and relative magnanimity in peace has become known and the resistance is light.

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The war in China continues as 1938 rolls in.

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This is so interesting! I had NO idea things could go this way in this mod. So do you actually have cores on all of Asia? Does Poland have cores on all of its territory? Whats up with the German Provinces occupied by France? What cores did Balkan countries get when they reasserted their old claims?
 

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Watch out for China :)
 

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This is so interesting! I had NO idea things could go this way in this mod. So do you actually have cores on all of Asia? Does Poland have cores on all of its territory? Whats up with the German Provinces occupied by France? What cores did Balkan countries get when they reasserted their old claims?

There's a lot of very different ways things can go. What are normally the 'prewar' years in HOI are very busy in ATR. The path things can go down with Germany/Poland/Russia has a LOT of curves and twists in it. In the few games I've done now I've seen Germany get crushed and I've seen them rally and take over Italy and get to the Brest-Litovsk treaty line in 1938. I haven't done an ATR game yet AS Germany, but I bet it would be interesting.

Mongolia does not have cores on all of Asia, just a megalomaniacal comment I tossed in. :p Mongolia starts with some cores in what normally becomes Menguko and in the desert to the south. A later event gives them cores in the bulk of Siberia.

Lots of cores are generated/expanded by events. For example, the Armenian event gives them cores over all of Azerbaijan, Georgia, southern Don-Kuban, eastern Turkey, and Tabriz. Russia gets lots of events that add cores.

The French -guess it's just their way of sticking it to the boche. I don't think the Balkan countries got any extra cores, just mainly decided not to accept Poland's 'new order'.
 
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Is that huge spot in Europe Poland? :eek:
Great AAR!
 

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  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
It seems like I have underestimated Mongolia's potential. All hail the great Khan! ;)

And it's so delightful to look at Poland in this AAR :D