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EDIT: Well, in general, I'm not the hugest fan of BALKANIZE EVERYTHING but that's nostalgia speaking and could change. I'm still waiting for the China rework to actually dig into that version.
Building on that concern, I think that Darkest Hour is in general less conductive to having many small tags than HoI IV is, which should influence mod design decisions. Part of this is simply due to the much more coarse province layout, which gives less room for maneuver and makes small-scale warfare a relatively uninteresting chore. Another reason is that cuntries with a very small amount of IC ( <10, roughly?) have limited opportunities to build up or build troops, making them uneventful in player hands and very ineffective in AI hands if they don't get a good starting force by event.

What I worry is that if stuff like the China/Italy rework, the italianization of La Plata into its constituent parts, or god forbid the Mittelafrika Explosion[1] were ported to DH with their KR4 map layout, a lot of the new tags would be boring to play while dragging down performance.

[1]as bad as the existing Syndie coup or Kaiserbund events are, I don't think Darkest Hour can support a finer-grained breakup while still being fun. There's a reason the vanilla postcolonial African tags are largely unused.
 

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Building on that concern, I think that Darkest Hour is in general less conductive to having many small tags than HoI IV is, which should influence mod design decisions. Part of this is simply due to the much more coarse province layout, which gives less room for maneuver and makes small-scale warfare a relatively uninteresting chore. Another reason is that cuntries with a very small amount of IC ( <10, roughly?) have limited opportunities to build up or build troops, making them uneventful in player hands and very ineffective in AI hands if they don't get a good starting force by event.

What I worry is that if stuff like the China/Italy rework, the italianization of La Plata into its constituent parts, or god forbid the Mittelafrika Explosion[1] were ported to DH with their KR4 map layout, a lot of the new tags would be boring to play while dragging down performance.

[1]as bad as the existing Syndie coup or Kaiserbund events are, I don't think Darkest Hour can support a finer-grained breakup while still being fun. There's a reason the vanilla postcolonial African tags are largely unused.

I very much understand the concern and it is something we are going to have to balance and puzzle out as we go, as well as not bringing back EVERYTHING from KR4. There is the possibility of moving to the E3 map if that is what people want but that is an absolutely massive undertaking on top of adding new content and fixing things.

Speaking of fixing things two things have arrived:

1. I took today to patch ALL errors, fix up the cause of events coming too quickly, and added Maxian's AI file changes (fixes mostly). We were recently given a special mediafire link that automatically updates along with our GitHub where everything is put together. If it was not changed on the first page then you can download the mod in full with all fixes at the Git HERE

2. I just released a Dev Diary on the official KR subreddit talking about the direction we are heading, answering a couple questions (and asking for more recruits because it would really help!)

Thank you all for the feedback so far and I hope we can continue making this mod awesome for you!
 

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I downloaded version 1.9.2, launched and got this:
Code:
ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_U10_13_10 detected! (4006 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_U10_13_11 detected! (4007 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_U10_13_12 detected! (4008 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_U10_13_13 detected! (4009 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_U10_13_14 detected! (4010 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag MODEL_USA_28_4 detected! (5773 - config\models.csv)
    ERROR : Replacement of text for tag BRIG_MODEL_RUS_26_8 detected! (7247 - config\models.csv)
 

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Ah... I see when I had to redo the commit that I forgot config.csv. I will throw the file here as well as patch it on the git when I get home.
 

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Fixed it on the git. Here is the file for those who want to manually fix it.
 

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Qing and Manchuria have a small mistake. Due to a mistake in declaring Japan a war on the event, Manchuria leaves the vassality and union, but still remains on the side of Japan in the war against Qing. In the file "Qing Foreign Policy.txt"
Code:
event = {
id = 148103
country = MAN
style = 2
picture = "Chinese_Fighting"

name = "The Final Decision"
desc = "The Qing Empire attacked its enemies to reclaim final parts of China just now. What shall we do now?"

action_a = {
ai_chance = 10
name = "We must continue our support for our masters"
command = { type = dissent value = 7 }
}

action_b = {
ai_chance = 100
trigger = {
flag = MAN_yes
}
name = "Rally round the Great Qing! To war!"
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = end_puppet }
command = { type = end_trades which = JAP where = MAN }
command = { type = end_access which = JAP where = MAN }
command = { type = end_access which = MAN where = JAP }
command = { type = relation which = JAP value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = CSX value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 100 }
command = { type = trigger which = 627066 } #In Fengtien Republic.txt
}
}

command = { type = trigger which = 627066 } #In Fengtien Republic.txt

There is no event 627066 in file "Fengtien Republic.txt". Despite the fact that there at the very beginning he writes:
####################
### Fengtien Republic events by thegreatplant
### IDs 627060 - 627070 (alright they aren't all in this file)
####################
IDs are there from 144000 to 144032. Most likely, event 144003 is suitable in this event for the annexation of Manzhchuria, since he agreed to support against Japan.
Code:
event = {
id = 144003
country = CSX
style = 2
picture = "China_Army"

name = "Manchuria Declares for the Qing!"
desc = "Zhang Zueling has decided to switch his allegiance to us instead of his Japanese Masters!"

action_a = {
name = "How Great is China!"
command = { type = addcore which = 1202 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1204 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1212 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1205 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1199 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1203 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1200 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1206 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1213 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1237 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1207 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1220 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1218 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1201 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1208 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1209 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1210 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1211 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1214 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1215 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1217 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1197 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1198 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1240 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1236 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1235 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1216 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1219 }
command = { type = waketeam which = 8828 } #South Manchuria Railway Co.
command = { type = waketeam which = 8802 } #Manzhou hángkong
#command = { type = waketeam which = 8825 } #Zhang Zuolin
command = { type = waketeam which = 8852 } #Ma Zhanshan
command = { type = waketeam which = 8843 } #Fèngtian Haijun Xuéyuàn
command = { type = waketeam which = 8848 } #Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = waketeam which = 8814 } #Fèngtian Binggongchang
command = { type = waketeam which = 8827 } #Anshan Iron & Steel Works
command = { type = waketeam which = 8808 } #Huludao Shipyard
command = { type = steal_tech which = MAN }
command = { type = steal_tech which = MAN }
command = { type = steal_tech which = MAN }
command = { type = steal_tech which = MAN }
command = { type = inherit which = MAN value = 1 }
}
}
Is it so?
 

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After the announcement that Kaiserreich was moving to HOI4 (DH Kaiserreich would thus probably die) I've never visited the forums again. For some reason I decided to check if someone is still playing it and - wow - there's even new updates and fixes for it. I stopped at 1.8, so can't wait to download the new content.

I know that such a complex mod exists on the motivation of the team involved. That said, I want to express my gratitude to everyone involved for getting this awesome mod out and actually keeping it updated. I know it's not a trivial task, especially as the project grows, so a big thanks for that. Really appreciate it. You've been responsible for A LOT of great gaming hours :)

(don't worry, my next post will be one nagging about this and that not working :-D )
 

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Good evening everyone. I am playing, as a lot of people do, as Russia and I am re-consolidating the empire. I went against:
- Alash Orda and Turkestan via event
- then I moved via event towards Caucasus, planning to attack Don - Kuban union if the event chain went wrong
- in that moment, Qing empire declared war against Stenberg's Mongolia. Thus, I had to manually declare war on Mongolia to avoid Chinese expansion at my south
- I then took care of Caucasus by events: Russian rebellion in the Union, then war against Totalist Georgia and its Azerbaijani puppet, and then annexed Armenia. All done by events.
- I then switched to Far East, going for Vladivostok and being ready to face Japan.
The event chain made me annex Vladivostok without any war.

Now no event went out. Can I still make moves against Japan or even Qing empire? (they are expanding, thus if I moved in Manchuria I expect to face them)
Is there any further event for Far East?
I even don't have any chance to turn towards Eastern Europe
 

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Good evening everyone. I am playing, as a lot of people do, as Russia and I am re-consolidating the empire. I went against:
- Alash Orda and Turkestan via event
- then I moved via event towards Caucasus, planning to attack Don - Kuban union if the event chain went wrong
- in that moment, Qing empire declared war against Stenberg's Mongolia. Thus, I had to manually declare war on Mongolia to avoid Chinese expansion at my south
- I then took care of Caucasus by events: Russian rebellion in the Union, then war against Totalist Georgia and its Azerbaijani puppet, and then annexed Armenia. All done by events.
- I then switched to Far East, going for Vladivostok and being ready to face Japan.
The event chain made me annex Vladivostok without any war.

Now no event went out. Can I still make moves against Japan or even Qing empire? (they are expanding, thus if I moved in Manchuria I expect to face them)
Is there any further event for Far East?
I even don't have any chance to turn towards Eastern Europe
If you fight and beat Japan (I.e. take all of their mainland possessions and accepting the second treaty of port Arthur, whilst not being in any other wars) you get the chance to move towards your next objective.
 

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Fresh install. Unknown string wanted for names of decisions. Got unknown string wanted for end date of scenario. Got unknown string wanted when I tried to upgrade infantry divisions to motorized.
Would you be able to tell me what savedebug says?
 

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So I've been getting a rather odd outcome when downloading the link in the OP - it seems to download some sort of generic HOI2 version. I'm talking options to play the Armageddon scenario, battle scenarios, 1939, etc.

Not sure what I'm missing here? Thanks in advance. :)
 

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If you fight and beat Japan (I.e. take all of their mainland possessions and accepting the second treaty of port Arthur, whilst not being in any other wars) you get the chance to move towards your next objective.

Do you mean like manually DoW Japan? Because I wanted to move more in the far East, also against the Qing empire who is taking a resurgent path
 

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Do you mean like manually DoW Japan? Because I wanted to move more in the far East, also against the Qing empire who is taking a resurgent path
If the event chain breaks for me around the annexation of Transamur, I usually declare war on Japan and beat them to trigger the second treaty of Port Arthur. The next expansion event (when you choose the East Asia direction) is locked behind that event.
 

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So I've been getting a rather odd outcome when downloading the link in the OP - it seems to download some sort of generic HOI2 version. I'm talking options to play the Armageddon scenario, battle scenarios, 1939, etc.

Not sure what I'm missing here? Thanks in advance. :)
That is a known thing. When the mod gets zipped up the zip makes a folder to put the mod folder into. Go into the Mod folder in Darkest Hour, open the kaiserreich folder, and then move the actual folder with the mod in it to the Mod folder.