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Well that would require a lot of things though.

'Armenia becoming freed from Ottoman puppetry at the start.'
'Armenia not being annexed by either Georgia or Russia.'
'Greece winning the Fourth Balkan War, and for that matter the Belgrade Congress even happening, which it sometimes doesn't.'
'Greece deciding to attack the Ottomans.'
'The Ottomans being weak enough to lose, which is unlikely considering their relative strength at the start.'

All this relies on A.I decisions, as making this option only for the player seems gamey as fuck. Greece barely if ever actually does anything in KR, and a federation of that sorts seems both unrealistic, and more importantly, OP in terms of game play. I wouldn't be averse to the devs making a little event that changes the flag and name to the Byzzies though if enough people actually wanted it, but balance is key there. Your chain of events would rely on a lot of very unlikely events to occur though, unlikely even for a player of one of those nations.

1)armenia isnt required, she should just be able to join if she wants
2)i have never seen the Belgrade congress not defeating the bulgarians, but i think something should be made to make them annex bulgaria cause many times i have seen bulgaria be left with just the provice of sofia blocking the rest events of the congress
3)the ai ussualy attacks the ottomans, in the event i think there is only a 5% chance not to attack and some more chance that instead of war let the locals decide their fate, but even if u attack after the union with serbia ,another war with the ottomans will come up so u can take the whole minor asia, so the first one will only give u a foothold in ottoman teritory

as i have answered i dont think it is neither unrealistic nore unachievable for the ai
the requirments can be these

1)annex bulgaria in 4th balkan war
2)2 countries agree
-then u can attack ottomas, with romania as allie and if u are lucky enough u would do so the same time the arabians attack, capture the whole minor asia
-have some events of rebuilding the empire and move capital to constantinople, have some events for the orthodox church(like the russians)
-in ww2 u will have 2 options 1)join at the side of germany in exchange for crete(if they havent solded to u or the ottomas at the start of the game) and claim south italy
2)if the austrians join the war at the side of the germans declare war at them and get the provices of yugoslavia and give romania its west provices
-after ww2, u can have an event for attacking the arabs, so u can claim the coast of east mediterenean


i dont say this idea because(at least only because) i am greek but i think that it would be interesting to build an empire from ashes at the exact period in the exact area and many people already asked for this

 

[NoMoreSanity]

1)armenia isnt required, she should just be able to join if she wants
2)i have never seen the Belgrade congress not defeating the bulgarians, but i think something should be made to make them annex bulgaria cause many times i have seen bulgaria be left with just the provice of sofia blocking the rest events of the congress
3)the ai ussualy attacks the ottomans, in the event i think there is only a 5% chance not to attack and some more chance that instead of war let the locals decide their fate, but even if u attack after the union with serbia ,another war with the ottomans will come up so u can take the whole minor asia, so the first one will only give u a foothold in ottoman teritory

as i have answered i dont think it is neither unrealistic nore unachievable for the ai
the requirments can be these

1)annex bulgaria in 4th balkan war
2)2 countries agree
-then u can attack ottomas, with romania as allie and if u are lucky enough u would do so the same time the arabians attack, capture the whole minor asia
-have some events of rebuilding the empire and move capital to constantinople, have some events for the orthodox church(like the russians)
-in ww2 u will have 2 options 1)join at the side of germany in exchange for crete(if they havent solded to u or the ottomas at the start of the game) and claim south italy
2)if the austrians join the war at the side of the germans declare war at them and get the provices of yugoslavia and give romania its west provices
-after ww2, u can have an event for attacking the arabs, so u can claim the coast of east mediterenean


i dont say this idea because(at least only because) i am greek but i think that it would be interesting to build an empire from ashes at the exact period in the exact area

There are actually events to annex Bulgaria, but that's up to Serbia entirely. And events to attack the Ottomans. It's just what you're saying is beyond even that, and beyond the possibility of the A.I. It just feels like this would be an event-chain only the player would ever see, as while I've seen the Belgrade pact win, I've seen an equal number of times where they lose. It's just a lot of what-ifs in game terms that stretch the realm of plausibility. And as I said, just name-switching to the Byzantine Empire isn't the problem. It's that Hitler-esque ambition of conquering ALL of the Eastern Mediterranean for reasons none other than 'gib back Byzzie clay kebab.' Same with Austria, in nearly 99% of AI scenarios Austria will still over-power Greece and Romania and Serbia even if they lose their Empire. Only a skilled player could win, and it's a HOI game I know, but does there have to be an event for every ridiculous land grab? Your whole argument rests on a bunch of what-ifs really.

Now I can agree with spicing up Greek events and decisions for the Megali idea IF they win the war, seeing as it's kind of lacking right now, but I wouldn't go nearly as far as you're saying here.

 

[Kannon]

The concept of a Balkan federation emerged at the late 19th century from among left political forces in the region. The central aim was to establish a new political unity: a common federal republic unifying the Balkan Peninsula on the basis of internationalism, socialism, social solidarity, and economic equality.

You're timing is scary since I just recently brought up a discussion to fix Yugoslavia since its in dire need of an overhaul... with Greece, Serbia/Yugoslavia and Romania allies, a Balkan Federation is very possible in my mind.

Is there even a route for Greece/Yugoslavia to go syndie?
The idea was supported by leftists, after all.

 

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There are actually events to annex Bulgaria, but that's up to Serbia entirely. And events to attack the Ottomans. It's just what you're saying is beyond even that, and beyond the possibility of the A.I. It just feels like this would be an event-chain only the player would ever see, as while I've seen the Belgrade pact win, I've seen an equal number of times where they lose. It's just a lot of what-ifs in game terms that stretch the realm of plausibility. And as I said, just name-switching to the Byzantine Empire isn't the problem. It's that Hitler-esque ambition of conquering ALL of the Eastern Mediterranean for reasons none other than 'gib back Byzzie clay kebab.' Same with Austria, in nearly 99% of AI scenarios Austria will still over-power Greece and Romania and Serbia even if they lose their Empire. Only a skilled player could win, and it's a HOI game I know, but does there have to be an event for every ridiculous land grab? Your whole argument rests on a bunch of what-ifs really.

Now I can agree with spicing up Greek events and decisions for the Megali idea IF they win the war, seeing as it's kind of lacking right now, but I wouldn't go nearly as far as you're saying here.

what u say is realy strange, as i have just mentioned how easy for the ai would be, just win the 4rd balkan and then both nations have to agree, then an event to attack the ottomans.the ai will have no problem. the war against the ottomas can be very easy or very hard, if u strike when the arabs do and all the rebbelions start u are lucky, if u attack before hold the line until the arabians attack or try some amphious asaults, if u attack after the arabians then turkey will be an easy victim. honestly i have never seen the belgrade congress losing and if u think the war facts its hard for bulgaria to survive a 3 way attack. u said that that austria can beat byzantium and romania, at least the ai, but we talk about ww2,for austria to join with germany means that mittleuropa is loosing, austrians will have to help the germans, protect themselfs and all of this at the other side of the country from where u will attack and by the time they attack the balkanians will surely have a formitalble army. at my last game after achieving megali idea i had around 25-30 div, romania never had the chance to get her west provices and serbia was also small, turkey had joined the internationalists and lost the war with france being occupied but the turk soldiers fought no battle and lost no man ,austria formed austria-hungary without the civil war. i declared war at turkey and her allie union of britain and immidieatly austria-hungary attacks me, i am no skilled player, i have being palying the game for almost half a year but i won thanks to my allies, romania is really strong especialy after 1940

 

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Originally Posted by Kannon
Is there even a route for Greece/Yugoslavia to go syndie?
The idea was supported by leftists, after all.

no byzanine empire is an idea of the right wing and is based on rebuilding byzantium which will unite the balkan and minor asia orthodoxs, the lefts talk about a balkan federation with socialism and stuff like this

 

[NoMoreSanity]

what u say is realy strange, as i have just mentioned how easy for the ai would be, just win the 4rd balkan and then both nations have to agree, then an event to attack the ottomans.the ai will have no problem. the war against the ottomas can be very easy or very hard, if u strike when the arabs do and all the rebbelions start u are lucky, if u attack before hold the line until the arabians attack or try some amphious asaults, if u attack after the arabians then turkey will be an easy victim. honestly i have never seen the belgrade congress losing and if u think the war facts its hard for bulgaria to survive a 3 way attack. u said that that austria can beat byzantium and romania, at least the ai, but we talk about ww2,for austria to join with germany means that mittleuropa is loosing, austrians will have to help the germans, protect themselfs and all of this at the other side of the country from where u will attack and by the time they attack the balkanians will surely have a formitalble army. at my last game after achieving megali idea i had around 25-30 div, romania never had the chance to get her west provices and serbia was also small, turkey had joined the internationalists and lost the war with france being occupied but the turk soldiers fought no battle and lost no man ,austria formed austria-hungary without the civil war. i declared war at turkey and her allie union of britain and immidieatly austria-hungary attacks me, i am no skilled player, i have being palying the game for almost half a year but i won thanks to my allies, romania is really strong especialy after 1940

I suppose your experiences is an example of KR's dynamicness, I never seen the Belgrade Pact win honestly. And usually the Arab rebellions happen around the same time as that war, so it could go either way. If you manage to win before that, and Serbia accepts peace from Bulgaria, you'd have to declare war on Bulgaria to get the two provinces they have before attacking the Turks. And even after that, the Turks still have plenty of divisions usually. It's 50/50 for me if the Ottomans win that war or not, but what you're saying would mean Greece would have to have a lot of luck just to take European Turkey before encountering serious resistance. And is there even a peace event for the Ottomans to give Greeks the clay or not (Serious question here, I don't know if there's a peace treaty or they have to go all out to take those cores). Though if you're at war with Germany, the Internationale and the whole Austrian Empire I'm amazed you survived honestly. It still doesn't really justify TAKING THE WHOLE EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN COAST thing though, not at all. And that's even if the Egyptians don't take it from the Ottomans. Once again, your idea about this super right-wing Greece relies on a lot of what-ifs, what-ifs the A.I probably will never achieve.

You said you achieved all of this as a player, but run a few observer games and see how far Greece gets. Sometimes they don't do anything at all, especially if Serbia doesn't call the Belgrade Congress either because they didn't choose too or they were puppeted by Austria (Also making another option for the Belgrade Pact nations if Serbia doesn't start it would be a good idea though, as having it rely solely on dodgy A.I is a nuisance.) And even if it does happens, then you'd have to ask the KR devs yourselves if they could even put it in if you weren't willing to mod it yourself, so if you're that insistent go to their forums and see.

no byzanine empire is an idea of the right wing and is based on rebuilding byzantium which will unite the balkan and minor asia orthodoxs, the lefts talk about a balkan federation with socialism and stuff like this

Or just go the Vicky 2 route and just have a Syndie!Greece>Byzantium be called the Union of Red Themes.

 

[Zhetone]

Most of the time I see the Belgrade members white peace with Bulgaria because they never advance. The only time they ever won was in my Serbia game, which I quit playing after I formed Yugoslavia because it got kinda boring after that. Are there flavor events for Yugoslavia?

 

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I suppose your experiences is an example of KR's dynamicness, I never seen the Belgrade Pact win honestly. And usually the Arab rebellions happen around the same time as that war, so it could go either way. If you manage to win before that, and Serbia accepts peace from Bulgaria, you'd have to declare war on Bulgaria to get the two provinces they have before attacking the Turks. And even after that, the Turks still have plenty of divisions usually. It's 50/50 for me if the Ottomans win that war or not, but what you're saying would mean Greece would have to have a lot of luck just to take European Turkey before encountering serious resistance. And is there even a peace event for the Ottomans to give Greeks the clay or not (Serious question here, I don't know if there's a peace treaty or they have to go all out to take those cores). Though if you're at war with Germany, the Internationale and the whole Austrian Empire I'm amazed you survived honestly. It still doesn't really justify TAKING THE WHOLE EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN COAST thing though, not at all. And that's even if the Egyptians don't take it from the Ottomans. Once again, your idea about this super right-wing Greece relies on a lot of what-ifs, what-ifs the A.I probably will never achieve.

You said you achieved all of this as a player, but run a few observer games and see how far Greece gets. Sometimes they don't do anything at all, especially if Serbia doesn't call the Belgrade Congress either because they didn't choose too or they were puppeted by Austria (Also making another option for the Belgrade Pact nations if Serbia doesn't start it would be a good idea though, as having it rely solely on dodgy A.I is a nuisance.) And even if it does happens, then you'd have to ask the KR devs yourselves if they could even put it in if you weren't willing to mod it yourself, so if you're that insistent go to their forums and see.


Or just go the Vicky 2 route and just have a Syndie!Greece>Byzantium be called the Union of Red Themes.

fistly i dont talk about ultra right wing, paternal autocrat maybe would be fine, in my game which i mentioned i didnt had war with mittleurope as austria never joined it, i had war with austria-hungary ,union of britain ,turkey and the rest internationalists(brazil i think and half india). as an observer i see that the megali idea has some issues firing, even when i play i have to reload it for it to appear as an option.there is a chance of belgrade congress never occuring, but thats what kaisereich exists, alternative scenarions. i have never seen a white peace in 4rth balkan but i saw a peace which gives greece and serbia their after 2nd balkan borders, i think the chance for accepting this peace sould be lowered, because think that u were leading these people, would u stop?why not take the whole bulgaria?the rest of the world is woried with other matters, why not?
isnt that the forum for saying ideas? as i said i am new and not yet into modding, but i go through event files all the time and i think that i can find how they work but especialy for the kasereich where the decision of one country affects so many others i think it will be hard. i suppose u are pro with the forums, can u please give me a link to help me with event making?

 

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Most of the time I see the Belgrade members white peace with Bulgaria because they never advance. The only time they ever won was in my Serbia game, which I quit playing after I formed Yugoslavia because it got kinda boring after that. Are there flavor events for Yugoslavia?

white peace? no the event one in which bulgaria goes back to after 2nd balkan borders?

 

[NoMoreSanity]

isnt that the forum for saying ideas? as i said i am new and not yet into modding, but i go through event files all the time and i think that i can find how they work but especialy for the kasereich where the decision of one country affects so many others i think it will be hard. i suppose u are pro with the forums, can u please give me a link to help me with event making?

Well if you want, it's in the OP, or you can take this link.

 

[Chojnicki]

reinstall your darkest hour game, you are probably using an old beta patch (had the same problem)

Worked for me as well. Thank you!

 

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for some reason when the cyprios revolt from turk opression the new state has turk ministers

 

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will u get a core on the westenr roman empire if byzantium is added? u should, cause Iustinian wanted to take it back and ppl accepted him so Greece should have a core on the western empire... and Illirya/gallia as well if u do good on retaking west maybe ppl in illyria or gallia can pettition for annexation... just idea

 

[korodikrisz]

@dl_bg: In case of sarcasm :beer:
Otherwise :facepalm:

 

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will u get a core on the westenr roman empire if byzantium is added? u should, cause Iustinian wanted to take it back and ppl accepted him so Greece should have a core on the western empire... and Illirya/gallia as well if u do good on retaking west maybe ppl in illyria or gallia can pettition for annexation... just idea

western roman empire?? sorry but this sounds crazier than my idea, the only part western than balkans byzantium can get is south italy and sicily. the illyrians are an ancient nation they exsit no more, i suppose u mean albania and modergo, those will be annexed and made cores though the christain pop living there

 

[Czaristan]

I don't know, considering how ultra-nationalistic the Balkans are in this timeline what with Iron Guard Romania and Metaxas Greece, such a multi-cultural federation seems unlikely. Even Yugoslavia was just Greater Serbia in a different name for most of its existence. And considering how often the Balkan countries are screwed over in the Ausgleich (which could honestly use some tweaking itself) the chances of them being successful in general is usually up to player control, which makes an event like that seem it'll be just for players who manage to curb stomp everything.

The idea that got closest to a reality was a post-ww2 soviet-backed Yugoslavia/Bulgaria union which would make sense if Soviet Russia conquers the region. It MIGHT even be a possibility if a slavophile Russia conquers everything and combines those countries just to make a greater south-slavic state.

 

[Czaristan]

Um, left turn for a second. Found a bug while playing my Russia stomptheworld game. Apparently event 901989 is not currently working because this section :

OR = {
AND = {
flag = RUS_DKU
owned = { province = 694 data = -3 }
control = { province = 694 data = -3 }
}
AND = {
flag = RUS_DKC
owned = { province = 709 data = -3 }
control = { province = 709 data = -3 }
owned = { province = 713 data = -3 }
control = { province = 713 data = -3 }
owned = { province = 694 data = -3 }
control = { province = 694 data = -3 }
}
AND = {
flag = RUS_ETC
owned = { province = 709 data = -3 }
control = { province = 709 data = -3 }
owned = { province = 713 data = -3 }
control = { province = 713 data = -3 }
owned = { province = 694 data = -3 }
control = { province = 694 data = -3 }
owned = { province = 711 data = -3 }
control = { province = 711 data = -3 }
}
}
}

requires Russia to own parts of Australia. Must be a bug?


Upon further inspection I have noticed that the entire file seems incomplete. The first two decisions (Caucausus and Central Asia) work fine, but the final 3 (far east, middle east, eastern europe) never fire and lack event chains even if they did fire. Far east events usually happen on their own via the mongolian and transamur events though.

 

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you didn't download 1.3 full version...that was a bug in one of the 1.3 betas...

 

[Reman]

Whats the event chain to centralize or federalize the empire as Austria.

 

[LiamRiordan]

Whats the event chain to centralize or federalize the empire as Austria.

That would be the 1937 Augsleich in February I think, there is a chance you can centralize and 'annex' the empire, but it will not be without a fight most of the time. There is a chance you can get each nation to accept peacefully, but most of the time, you'll plunge the entire region into a civil war which can annihilate Austria most of the time, since Italy, Germany and Hungary have options to invade Austria. DO NOT CENTRALIZE WITHOUT LARGE ARMY. Also, protip, keep a good garrison in Montenegro, this will stop them rebelling, and if they do, you can quell it, since if you lose it, you cannot reclaim it without invading or allying Croatia. During a civil war that is a low chance.

Only centralize if you focus on military buildup.