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Well I can switch my cores in Mongolia (except for Kyzyl, also known as Tuva) out for cores on Belarus and Armenia. I would have had cores on Belarus either way if the events for the intervention in Belarus actually worked (they never fire). Agreed? I would demand my cores on Belarus anyhow. You will find the events in the "Eastern States" events folder.
Regarding balance, I think you guys are just panicking because things aren't going as you expected. If you wouldn't have intervened in America you would perhaps not have seen Japanese ambitions in America, if you had let both Spain and America be, I would perhaps not participate myself on Germany's side, as these actions were the precise reasons I am siding with Germany. I do not wish to let you overrun Germany and it's allies, or participate in overrunning him, as I know that then your force will outnumber me 3 to 1 after this. You forget that your combined navies are somewhat stronger than ours, that Russia is technologically inferior. You can still do plenty to balance it out by tweaking your own strategy. You may lose the battle for mainland Europe, or it could be a static front, or it could stop somewhere further southwest, but the war is not over just because of the fall of France, just as in vanilla. You must not give up so easily, the war will not be a walkover and you have to accept that fact. It will be a long, undecisive global war.
Regarding balance, I think you guys are just panicking because things aren't going as you expected. If you wouldn't have intervened in America you would perhaps not have seen Japanese ambitions in America, if you had let both Spain and America be, I would perhaps not participate myself on Germany's side, as these actions were the precise reasons I am siding with Germany. I do not wish to let you overrun Germany and it's allies, or participate in overrunning him, as I know that then your force will outnumber me 3 to 1 after this. You forget that your combined navies are somewhat stronger than ours, that Russia is technologically inferior. You can still do plenty to balance it out by tweaking your own strategy. You may lose the battle for mainland Europe, or it could be a static front, or it could stop somewhere further southwest, but the war is not over just because of the fall of France, just as in vanilla. You must not give up so easily, the war will not be a walkover and you have to accept that fact. It will be a long, undecisive global war.
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Eh yeah let's switch your cores on a territory with almost no IC to cores on a territory with a lot of IC.
While they are in the mod (Which is based on a Russia Centric Mod called All The Russia's btw!) should get those massive cores.
In every event there is a "WE want it!" choice and when Russia takes it they got cores out of nowhere over territory which isn't Russian in the slightest (Ukraine, Don Kuban, Alash Orda, Gerorgia etc. etc.).
Sweden also has cores editet out of nowhere.
They are as senseless as Germany or France getting Cores over the other simply by choosing the total occupation option.
Apart from that is the unrealism of the Imperial alliance: Why did Germany loose million of men in the Great War with Mitteleuropa as main aim if they are now simply giving one of their client states after another to Russia? Or their Asian Colonies to Japan?
Wilhelm II. was the person to start a world war over some useless swaths of sand in Africa...
edit: In vanilla the war isn't over because Germany and Soviet Union are enemies
Here we basically have an unholy alliance with a Russia that get's more cores than the vanilla SU and has Blitzkrieg doctrine as opposed to the useless (at least until '43) Human Wave
While they are in the mod (Which is based on a Russia Centric Mod called All The Russia's btw!) should get those massive cores.
In every event there is a "WE want it!" choice and when Russia takes it they got cores out of nowhere over territory which isn't Russian in the slightest (Ukraine, Don Kuban, Alash Orda, Gerorgia etc. etc.).
Sweden also has cores editet out of nowhere.
They are as senseless as Germany or France getting Cores over the other simply by choosing the total occupation option.
Apart from that is the unrealism of the Imperial alliance: Why did Germany loose million of men in the Great War with Mitteleuropa as main aim if they are now simply giving one of their client states after another to Russia? Or their Asian Colonies to Japan?
Wilhelm II. was the person to start a world war over some useless swaths of sand in Africa...
edit: In vanilla the war isn't over because Germany and Soviet Union are enemies
Here we basically have an unholy alliance with a Russia that get's more cores than the vanilla SU and has Blitzkrieg doctrine as opposed to the useless (at least until '43) Human Wave
Reread my post, I made some edits. Mongolia has about 20 IC if you count out Kyzyl. Belarus doesn't really have much IC or manpower, and absolutely no natural resources unlike Mongolia, which has all three things, so you are wrong.
Yeah my own edits are already referring to your edits which I noticed
You didn't react to the rest of my post...
And I don't know where you are getting the stronger navies from? Germany has the most giant navy in the world, second being Japan. France and CSA have as good as nothing, and mine consists largely of outdated ships.
Sami with the 3-1 outnumbering: My spies told me about 300 Russian divisions, we don't even have parity with you alone.
You didn't react to the rest of my post...
And I don't know where you are getting the stronger navies from? Germany has the most giant navy in the world, second being Japan. France and CSA have as good as nothing, and mine consists largely of outdated ships.
Sami with the 3-1 outnumbering: My spies told me about 300 Russian divisions, we don't even have parity with you alone.
Yeah my own edits are already referring to your edits which I noticed
You didn't react to the rest of my post...
And I don't know where you are getting the stronger navies from? Germany has the most giant navy in the world, second being Japan. France and CSA have as good as nothing, and mine consists largely of outdated ships.
Sami with the 3-1 outnumbering: My spies told me about 300 Russian divisions, we don't even have parity with you alone.
I don't even have HALF of that amount of troops actually, some are still 1918. I got lots of divisions in expeditionary forces (that I don't want) which seem to count as Russian in the statistics. In total we have more than 400 in the alliance, maybe a quarter of these are 1918, most are 1936 and a bit more than half are German or Russian. If you claim this is unbalanced, I will not listen.
You have done enough harm in making me tell you all about the composition of our forces.
Regarding the German navy, they don't have many carriers unlike UoB, it is mostly battleships.
The mod is as it is. Don-Kuban Union, Belarus and Eastern Ukraine is definitely Russian enough for most of the populace to accept Russian control without violent resistance, which is the definition of core provinces in HOI. Regarding my alliance with Germany, I am not the Soviet Union, thus I am not an ideological enemy to Germany and have excellent grounds for allying Germany. There is no reason for Germany to keep it's weak, insignificant client states in Eastern Europe indefinitely if refusal to do so will result in a two-front war, and acceptance to so will lead to a powerful ally that will save him from inevitable destruction in no time.
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I have 6 outdated carriers.
You don't just get cores on those but on all of Ukraine and on other territories as well. They are also not "Russian enough".
Ukrainians have strive for independence for centuries. Same with the turkish people of Central Asia or the Caucasus regions of Georgia, Azerbaijan etc. If Russia can get cores on these they and Germany could get cores on Poland as well
Why do you think they have independent countries today?
You don't just get cores on those but on all of Ukraine and on other territories as well. They are also not "Russian enough".
Ukrainians have strive for independence for centuries. Same with the turkish people of Central Asia or the Caucasus regions of Georgia, Azerbaijan etc. If Russia can get cores on these they and Germany could get cores on Poland as well
Why do you think they have independent countries today?
I have 6 outdated carriers.
You don't just get cores on those but on all of Ukraine and on other territories as well. They are also not "Russian enough".
Ukrainians have strive for independence for centuries. Same with the turkish people of Central Asia or the Caucasus regions of Georgia, Azerbaijan etc. If Russia can get cores on these they and Germany could get cores on Poland as well
Why do you think they have independent countries today?
If they can be cores of the Soviet Union in every single mod in HOI modding history they can be cores of Czarist Russia... The Soviet Union was every bit as Russian as Czarist Russia was, so you cannot argue that they were cores because the USSR was an international entity, as this was only on paper.
Regarding Central Asia, I never asked for cores on it, but Mark was nice and gave it to me anyways, which I have no reason to reject.
What is most important about carriers in HOI is not the ships themselves, but the CAG. Germany has only 3 IIRC, which are also outdated. You convinced me that the naval war might not be in your favour after all, but it won't be hopeless for you if you play wisely, you can deal quite a blow to us.
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As you've said yourself you are not the Soviet Union.
As I've pointed out already the mod comes originally from a Russia Centric Mod in else the normal WW2 setting where Russia like the SU needs those cores to fight Germany.
There have been no changes made in Kaiserreich to the Russian chains with regard to balance.
Btw these territories have more IC than in vanilla to make the nations playable.
The cores simply make no sense, whether from a realism or gameplay point of view.
And why did Germany fight (and win) a two front war with millions of death for several years to get these?
Also they aren't insignificant.
In Gameplay terms with two alliances fighting each other to the death, yes.
In reality Russia could never be more than a temporary ally, so it would not be wise to strengthen them in any way, and those client states would be extremely important for the German economy which simply doesn't exist in the game.
I also don't know where you get the inevitable destruction from? Germany with it's clients and WW1 allies is already stronger than the Internationale on their own. And than it get's Russia and Japan thrown in...
Stalin was a Georgian btw, so much for the Russian SU
As I've pointed out already the mod comes originally from a Russia Centric Mod in else the normal WW2 setting where Russia like the SU needs those cores to fight Germany.
There have been no changes made in Kaiserreich to the Russian chains with regard to balance.
Btw these territories have more IC than in vanilla to make the nations playable.
The cores simply make no sense, whether from a realism or gameplay point of view.
And why did Germany fight (and win) a two front war with millions of death for several years to get these?
Also they aren't insignificant.
In Gameplay terms with two alliances fighting each other to the death, yes.
In reality Russia could never be more than a temporary ally, so it would not be wise to strengthen them in any way, and those client states would be extremely important for the German economy which simply doesn't exist in the game.
I also don't know where you get the inevitable destruction from? Germany with it's clients and WW1 allies is already stronger than the Internationale on their own. And than it get's Russia and Japan thrown in...
Stalin was a Georgian btw, so much for the Russian SU
Fine to Australasia being syndicalist. United RS? What about the Pope?
You want a united Italy? Conquer it because I'm not killing the Pope. No Japs in America? The problem is that Japan's Human invaded it, adn we can't just kick him out for balance.
Yep. You can always resist from the New World.
And why did Germany fight (and win) a two front war with millions of death for several years to get these?
Also they aren't insignificant.
In Gameplay terms with two alliances fighting each other to the death, yes.
In reality Russia could never be more than a temporary ally, so it would not be wise to strengthen them in any way, and those client states would be extremely important for the German economy which simply doesn't exist in the game.
I also don't know where you get the inevitable destruction from? Germany with it's clients and WW1 allies is already stronger than the Internationale on their own. And than it get's Russia and Japan thrown in...
Stalin was a Georgian btw, so much for the Russian SU
Temporary ally. Wonderful. I have no idea if that scary Russian bear will turn on me once the enemy all die.
It makes it fun to play, for the Russian player. I think that is good enough reason. The Kaiserreich team decided to leave them in, so they are in.
Then go and tell that to the Kaiserreich team.
Not discussing this.
We may very well turn against each other for fun when (if) you are ultimately crushed. His decisions have nothing to do with what Germany would do in RL.
Fancykiller is not a very experienced player, you might beat him if he is on his own, and he would definitely fall within a few months if I was thrown against him as well. Where would I be supposed to fight if I can't fight either you or Germany? Japan and China?
Stalin was a Georgian btw, so much for the Russian SU
He was a quite Russified Georgian, he did indeed favourize Russians actively, and the administration was pretty dominated by Russians.
Tell me, what is your combined army strength, plus all your potential allies and puppets? You still have time to build more. And we might as well compensate this balance issue you keep talking about by building some less important units for a while. With a bit more than 150 divisions I am already running out of manpower (1250 that I have now wont last for long when at war).
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I'll leave specific proposals for balance to azzi and am fine with anything (not like my Island is conquerable once I have 5 divs at every shore anyway ), I was just pointing out balance and realism issues.
Bt at the very least remove the swedish cores which are not part of the mod.
Oh and one thing: Someone else should host next session since the game will crash as soon as you annex France, if azzi is host.
), I was just pointing out balance and realism issues.Bt at the very least remove the swedish cores which are not part of the mod.
Oh and one thing: Someone else should host next session since the game will crash as soon as you annex France, if azzi is host.
I'll leave specific proposals for balance to azzi and am fine with anything (not like my Island is conquerable once I have 5 divs at every shore anyway
Bt at the very least remove the swedish cores which are not part of the mod.
Oh and one thing: Someone else should host next session since the game will crash as soon as you annex France, if azzi is host.
Yeah, remove the cores on Sweden.
I'll leave specific proposals for balance to azzi and am fine with anything (not like my Island is conquerable once I have 5 divs at every shore anyway
Bt at the very least remove the swedish cores which are not part of the mod.
Oh and one thing: Someone else should host next session since the game will crash as soon as you annex France, if azzi is host.
I will host then. But I don't think the war will start next session, and even if it does I don't think we will reach West Africa by that session.
The war will start in 2 seesions, i'm guessing. That or they decide to unity Italy.
The pope doesen't need to die, he can go in exile for example in Austria or Hungary. If you agree to this that edit peace with Australsia, edit cores for CoF in North Africa (so I can go in exile IF I would fall) and let Republic of Sicilies take Italian Federation then its fine by me. Doesn't this sounds ok?
Edit: I can't be annexed that easy because I got victory points in North Africa, Narmon. In this way it could be like the real world war 2 (the free France).
Edit: I can't be annexed that easy because I got victory points in North Africa, Narmon. In this way it could be like the real world war 2 (the free France).
OK by me, except for the Italy part, which we have the right to do exactly what we want about.
Well the event will fire in 1939 for Italy "its a part of the mod...". PS we have the same right for all the countries you conquer.
Edit: I won't argue/complain anymore since this is so childish.
As we said before, we don't mind starting the war right away, but apparently you do. You may attack Italy, but then we might attack you, it is up to you if you want gamble or not. You must always have in mind the price for your actions which is not always written in stone.