• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Davisx3m

-{Kaiserreich Team]-
94 Badges
Dec 16, 2006
6.976
4.452
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • King Arthur II
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Lead and Gold
  • Legio
  • The Kings Crusade
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Penumbra - Black Plague
  • Pirates of Black Cove
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sword of the Stars
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • War of the Roses
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Deus Vult
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • East India Company Collection
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
:rofl:
 

Charle_88

Stupid and without purpose
Mar 6, 2006
708
0
Obviously in this timeline he didn't keep his promise then.

Though perhaps putting Finland in the German alliance is a good idea.
 

Lord Finnish

A man of science and culture.
73 Badges
Sep 4, 2006
12.332
1.960
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Victoria 2
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
South America is far from Spain, but still it was spanish colony.

And yeah, Macao is far from portugal, still count as a colony, eh?
 

Rekjavik

Sergeant
77 Badges
Jul 30, 2007
94
0
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Iron Cross
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Cities in Motion
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Deus Vult
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Prison Architect
  • 500k Club
  • War of the Roses
I can't seem to find the Kaiserreich wiki. Could someone send me a link to it.
 

Eams

Detective Lt., Police Squad
8 Badges
May 17, 2006
1.322
4
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Semper Fi
  • 500k Club

KanaX

ಠ_ರೃ
4 Badges
Jul 15, 2006
2.066
6
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
Lord Finnish said:
When Finland gained independence in 1917, Germans immediatly sent help wishing for northern ally in Europe. As they sent their Prince here, rumours tell that Germans promised Belgian Congo to Finland in case they won the war.

And atleast according to Wikipedia, Finland should be part of 'Mittereuropa' Alliance.

I know, but Congo because to Mittelafrika. There's no need for that. And Finland is going to be a part of Mitteleurope, I made that motion myself.

FallenMorgan: Excuse my rudeness, but I'm out of juice answering to questions people can find answers themselves.
 

unmerged(60289)

Th Wanderer
Aug 26, 2006
217
0
Lord Finnish said:
When Finland gained independence in 1917, Germans immediatly sent help wishing for northern ally in Europe. As they sent their Prince here, rumours tell that Germans promised Belgian Congo to Finland in case they won the war.

No offense, Lord Finnish, but do you have a source for this? It does sound rather unlikely...



1- what is supposed to happen in china? The legation cities took some of my territory via event but that's it.

We do have several events in China, but not all of them fire in every game. Also, we work on expanding the event chains in East Asia.

2-I declared war on syndicalist france after they killed my diplomat on the train to bucharest, annexed them, then annexed britain and republic of the 2 sicilies. When i declared war Canada joined in declaring war on them, but they didn't do anything else. the map was reshuffled (I balkanized the UK isles, kept france because I could only liberate syndicalist france, then gave the south of italy to the north via event), what now? doesn't canada want the isles back?

Revolters will be reworked for the next version. Als o more post-war events will hopefully eventually be added. But of course, after a certain point, there simply are not any more events.

3-ukraine turned sindicalist but they aren't doing anything.
Syndicalist Ukraine has an option to remain neutral, or might ally with France. There are several options.

5-i went with 'prepare for further actions' in byelorussia when the heir killed all his family and assumed control, but nothing else came up.
I think this eventchain is not finished yet.
 

Red Boxer

the Quiet One
28 Badges
Apr 18, 2004
634
0
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • 500k Club
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
No offense, Lord Finnish, but do you have a source for this? It does sound rather unlikely...

I don't think it sounds unlikely. Nations say funny things to try to make friends.
 

unmerged(26510)

Colonel
Mar 5, 2004
892
0
www.fz.se
wilegfass said:
screensave1ib3.png

Yup, no war. It might just be 1.0.1 or whatever it is though.
Where'd you get the Union of America Propaganda flag, its pretty funny.

Surely Huey Long was not right wing. He was a leftist I think.
 

Comrade Kalle

Major
39 Badges
Jan 8, 2006
726
142
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
I played yesterday, and when American Union State revolted, I loaded the game as them. Eventually, USA also got Huey Long as leader, and they declared war on me, so there were two countries led by the very same Huey Long, fighting each other :rofl:
a win-win situation for him, and pretty funny imho
 

Lord Finnish

A man of science and culture.
73 Badges
Sep 4, 2006
12.332
1.960
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Victoria 2
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Andromedos said:
No offense, Lord Finnish, but do you have a source for this? It does sound rather unlikely...

It's just a rumour. However, if they already gave us a prince to be a king, why couldn't they had gave Finland a colony somewhere?
 

KanaX

ಠ_ರೃ
4 Badges
Jul 15, 2006
2.066
6
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
Lord Finnish said:
It's just a rumour. However, if they already gave us a prince to be a king, why couldn't they had gave Finland a colony somewhere?
I seriously doubt that this colony thing will ever come into the game. Congo is a central part of Mittelafrika, and there's no need to change that.
 

Charle_88

Stupid and without purpose
Mar 6, 2006
708
0
KanaX said:
I seriously doubt that this colony thing will ever come into the game. Congo is a central part of Mittelafrika, and there's no need to change that.

Not to mention that it was a colony with lots of natural resources, would be a very nice little gem in the crown of a German empire with colonial ambitions.

As nice a thought as it is, I seriously doubt that the Germans would ever have given away Congo if they managed to take it, and certainly not to Finland (no offense). It's also doubtful a newly-formed Finland (which historically had a civil war during this period) would be able to administer a colony in Africa.
 

Samilou

General
128 Badges
Aug 5, 2005
2.460
22
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Iron Cross
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Sword of the Stars
  • For The Glory
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • War of the Roses
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Commander: Conquest of the Americas
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Deus Vult
  • Diplomacy
  • East India Company
  • East India Company Collection
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
Charle_88 said:
Not to mention that it was a colony with lots of natural resources, would be a very nice little gem in the crown of a German empire with colonial ambitions.

As nice a thought as it is, I seriously doubt that the Germans would ever have given away Congo if they managed to take it, and certainly not to Finland (no offense). It's also doubtful a newly-formed Finland (which historically had a civil war during this period) would be able to administer a colony in Africa.


The civil war had ended before WW1 had ended to begin with. I don't think it would be a major (perhaps some difficulties early on) problem for Finland (less than 3 million people after the war I think) to administrate it. Considering both Portugal and Britain (well actually nearly all colonial powers had) also had such a huge size and population difference to it's own colonial empire, and they did manage to keep it for quite a long time, sometimes without trouble. And I imagine if Germany would be willing to give Congo to Finland, aiding Finland in the beginning with administration of Congo would also be possible. It's also propable that most belgians would be staying in Congo, former Belgian administrators and officials would be possible for Finland to hire and then gradually they could colonize it themselves. It's not like Finland was disorganized or in turmoil after WW1, it was relatively stable and well-run compared to the rest of Europe, it had been autonomous with an own government (and even a small army) for decades by the time it declared full independence 1917.


I suggest you could just create an event for Germany to chose to hand Congo over to Finland because they deemed Finland as capable from the game start and on to control it's own colony. You could give Germany a VP boost and possibly a dissent drop to reflect prestige gained by Germany (for keeping it's word) if they decide to hand it over, and a loss of them if refusing. Giving it away could also give Mittelafrika an option to revolt (or merely protest) against Germany or something. Could as well give Germany a small manpower boost and alliance with Finland if handing it over, if not the Finnish AI could be made strictly neutral, in Switzerland or Sweden's style and hurt relations with it a bit.

This would at least give Finnish players, perhaps other players as well quite a bit of extra entertainment. Since the game is after all supposed to be entertainment, thus if there are even a small chance of something happening it should be reflected in the game.
 

KanaX

ಠ_ರೃ
4 Badges
Jul 15, 2006
2.066
6
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
I still oppose the idea. There are events for Finland already, with a lot of territorial gains as well. Giving Congo to them would be useless, and I believe that Congo is an integral part of Mittelafrika. Göring would never give it up. And Finland is going to be a part of Mitteleuropa.
 

Samilou

General
128 Badges
Aug 5, 2005
2.460
22
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Iron Cross
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Sword of the Stars
  • For The Glory
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • War of the Roses
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Commander: Conquest of the Americas
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Deus Vult
  • Diplomacy
  • East India Company
  • East India Company Collection
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
KanaX said:
I still oppose the idea. There are events for Finland already, with a lot of territorial gains as well. Giving Congo to them would be useless, and I believe that Congo is an integral part of Mittelafrika. Göring would never give it up. And Finland is going to be a part of Mitteleuropa.

Why deny the players that? You can simply add an option where Finland simply refuses to accept Congo.