I feel like after what happened with Magna Mundi and East v. West they probably won't be bringing in any 3rd parties any time soon.
Kaiserreich in HOI4.
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Why are there so many people here that want to pay for something that can be modded and downloaded for free? Is it certain that all of the KR developers are disinterested in starting anew?
They were disinterested in starting anew for HoI3 so this would hardly be a surprise.
I think you don't understand what motivates creative people, if you expect modders to cheer at the idea of re-implementing something they once created. They'll only do it if HoI4 really offers exciting new facets to the KR experience, so that it would not be a mind-numbing re-implementation effort but a creation of something new.
I wouldn't count on it... KR was really very fleshed out and thrived on the "railroaded" way events were written during pre-Clausewitz times. It was a different time, and those games were made a different spirit. The whole idea where you replace event chains by abstract, symbolic stuff like "influencing" people into the corner of a triangle (like in HoI3) or "sphering" them (like in Vic2) is really alien to the old mindset. Those systems are so abstract, they throttle the creativity and make people loath to try and reinvent them for a new mod setting. Like I said I would cheer if they port it over, but I wouldn't count on it.
Well, seeing as how the dev team didn't like HoI3, and HoI4 is shaping up to be more like HoI3 than HoI2, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't have high hopes.
Kaiserreich WAS ported to HOI3 (by people who has permission from KR team) but NOT finished due to the lack of support from the mod'ing community. A few brave people are trying to continue it now but I believe is still a fair way off. If it wasn't completed on HOI3 due to lack of support I can't see it getting to HOI4. A big effort was made to convert the small number of HOI2 provinces to the far for numerous HOI3 provinces which still has a few mapping issues. Then there's events, ministers etc. all converted but need work.
If you want a chance of Kaiserreich getting to HOI4 (due to the mapping issues) you probably need to offer to help the existing HOI3 conversion effort. Refer to the HOI3 Mods forum.
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Because a well made DLC with proper testing, bug fixes & the need to fully finish things before release can be much better than a mod that keeps getting worked when the devs get time & feel like it with a release that is only a work in progress. Sure a DLC can be expanded on after release. Another thing depending on the type of mod/DLC it can set a standard (like a tank tech expansion) that other can use with mods they make. Also people like to reward people for their hard work.
I'm unsure of how helping HOI3 conversion would help HOI4. We don't know of the modding differences yet (or do we ? I could have missed that), but integrating it in HOI3 might not help that much porting it to HOI4. You'll start at scratch anyway.
Well I guess I'm saying if there wasn't the support from the community to get it working on hoi3 after the main conversion effort was done then you don't have the body of people to put it on hoi4 (either converted or brand new). Finishing off the hoi3 conversion is doable though and would be much easier than starting from scratch. It might also generate enough interest in the mod to get a team to work on it in hoi4.
Well, how many alt-hist mods are there currently for HoI3? I think the number is zero. I don't think there actually is any interest. HoI3 is just not geared towards that kind of story-driven gameplay. I can't see many of the KR fans being convinced to step over to HoI3, tbh.
The Armageddon Expansion. I felt like it was intended for a balanced MP experience. It was pretty neat, cool flags.
hoi3 was hell to code events for, it was a huuge step backwards in that field. Since KR was basically an event based mod I can understand why they wouldnt want to port it.
I'd pay $55 for Turtledove's World in Balance scenario.
That'd be worth it just to play as the aliens...in fact, that deserves its own game!
Personally, I'd be more interested in converting it to hoi4 than 3, both because I don't really like 3 (though I don't know how 4 will turn out yet), and because the events weren't really nice. These factors don't really depend on the number of people converting to hoi3, and I would consider that as 2 different projects.
Kaiserreich wasn't done in HoI3 because the game itself wasn't very mod-friendly. I imagine that we may see KR for HoI4 if the modding is similar to CK2 and EU4
Why do people like this mod so much? I'm just curious because I've never played it or HOI2.
Can't speak for anybody else, but for me, I like the worldbuilding that the developers have put in the scenario, and especially the different options and variables that add a lot of replay value. As Russia, for example, you can go National Populist (Fascist) with Wrangel and then you can either declare him Vozhd (something like a Russian Fuhrer that is both Head of State and Head of Government) or invite a figurehead Czar, but that is only one option, since you can also choose to becomea progressive democratic republic, an aristocratic republic, a constitutional monarchy, etc. and can be a new Russian Civil War between the Reds and the Whites, or there can be a peaceful revolution that creates the USSR without bloodshed. That's just Russia.
The U.S. for example faces civil war between the federal government, syndicalists, fascists, and the secession of the west coast as the Pacific States and sometimes of New England too. Each of these factions (both in Russia and America) have different events to join the different alliances.
It was intended solely for balanced MP, with balanced forces and the allocation of IC and allies.
oh you should play it alright, its super fun
i bought the DH just for Kaiserreich
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