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Venice 1519-1524

It is the twenty-ninth of December 1523. Finally, I have a few moments to simply relax before going to bed for a long, long rest. The last five years have been so hard. I am alone in my chambers as I gaze into the mirror hanging beside my bed. I do not recognize the man staring blankly back at me. He has a haggard and weary countenance. The skin on his face looks slack and pallid. There are bags under his eyes and his head is adorned with a crown of disheveled uncombed hair. A rash of black stubble covers the lower half of his face. Surely this is not the proud and arrogant Field Marshal Francisco de Treviso? But it is. This is the most recent chapter of his story:

Venice 1519-1524...OR...It's hard to remember that the primary goal is to drain the swamp when you're up to your arse in alligators.

I'm not too sure what happened in other parts of the world...since...Venice was in flames for most of my five years.

My initial goal was to vassalize Austria after wrapping up several issues in the Balkans. Our spies had provided information that led me to suspect Austria was soon to annex Hungary and possibly even Bohemia. We would have to strike and defeat Austria before this occured....ha, ha, ha!...random events sure do stink sometimes.

Venice starts with 2 provinces controlled by rebel scum. 4 separate rebel scum armies harass the countryside. We are at war with Ottomans and the sheep people…errrr…Ak Koyunlu. The Ottoman Empire has taken Morea from Byzantium and is greedily eyeing Byzantium’s sole remaining province of Thrace. We must to annex Thrace before they do.

Venice sends Trabzon to the OE for peace.
Venice declares war on Byzantium using a Casus Beli.
We kill rebels in Macedonia and set out to siege Thrace.
Venice annexes Thrace (pat myself on the back for getting the 12K Byz soldiers in Wallachia added to my army for free through annexation), build armies, kill rebels.

All rebels are dead, stab at +3, mass 75K troops on the Austrian border. 18K troops are left in Thrace to put down rebellions during the coming war. The Austrians have 1 named leader and 40K troops. I think it will be close. Our morale is Very Strong. However, we lack information on what is happening in Ostmarch.

Venice declares war on Austria. We drop to 0 stab for no CB and same faith. Genoa, Papal States, Albania, Munster, Naples join Austria. Bavaria, Savoy, Helvetia join Venice.

Our armies march on Austria...and...just before they reach Austria, bam!, some random event, -2 stab (no other choices to pay ducats, etc), now stab is -2. I swear...several times. This does not prevent the Austrians from cutting us to ribbons. I also get to see Austrian named leader #2 and 20K more troops in Ostmarch. I swear some more. The Austrians chase our boys into Stieremark. I lose again...but then...for some strange reason...they make a right turn for Bavaria's sole province....hooray!

Genoa sends 45K into Lombardia, Papal states marches 30K towards Mantua. My warships scout out 25K men moving up the boot from Naples. 13K Albanians head for Macedonia.

We attack in Macedonia from Thrace, defeat Albania, chase them back to Hellas, cover Hellas, chase Albanians to Albania, kill all in Albania, besiege Albania, build troops in Ragusa to reinforce and start siege of Hellas...finally something goes right in this war.

Revolts all over but nothing can be done about them.

In the North, our troops fall back to Veneto. The armies regroup and we pump out more soldiers.

Austria is still busy destroying Bavaria. The defeated Bavarians retreat into the rebels in Tirol...oops...but...they kill enough rebels to halt the siege there...small miracle. More Bavarians in Venetian provinces start to assemble into a single army and head back to Bavaria. There are quite a lot of them.

48K troops w/28K cavalry are sent to beat on the Pope. He is defeated in Romanga. Our armies cover Romanga and advance to Marche to finish the Papal States. Naples moves 25K men into Marche as I arrive. They're mostly cavalry. The Naples troops combine with the Papal forces...oh boy...defeat again....fall everything back to Emilia, send new troops to Emilia...Lombardia is close to falling to Genoa.

Helvetia and Savoy stand around doing a lot of nothing. Storey has told me that the Irish call this "thumb twiddling". I hear rumors that it may even become an Olympic sport. My prediction is Ireland vs. Helvetia for the gold.

Our Navy wins 6 or 7 naval battles against Genoa and the Papal States...steal
rutters twice...but learn nothing of interest.

I order an attack Genoa in Lombardia. The forces of Genoa are defeated. Our army chases them back to Genoa, defeats them there, and besiege Genoa. Genoa accepts a white peace.

We have 2 ducats in the treasury when a random event occurs, chose -1 stab or pay 100 ducats. (I don't want to leave the AI with a loan and low stab...so choose -1 stab, down to -2 overall again.)

Bavaria magically pushes Austria back. Austria offers a white peace...we accept gratefully.

Venice signs a separate peace with Albania. We receive Hellas and 100 ducats. As a parting gift I leave 12,000 unhappy rebels rioting in Albania proper.

I think that maybe we can grab some land from Naples and the Pope....then again…maybe not. It looks close and I'm running out of time in this turn. Talk about pressure.

I convince the Doge to make peace with Naples.

We battle the Pope’s troops back and forth finally pushing his forces out of the Papal States territory. His armies fall back into Siena (which is at peace with everyone). The Pope's armies are hiding under a dark red flag with a white cross. I cannot reach them.

Another annoyance...there are 4K sheepherder…errrr….sorry…Ak Koyunlu troops causing trouble. AK is also at war with Papal States but their forces are not big enough to start a siege. Although, if I try to siege a province they are in...the sheepherders control the siege...what the hell?...we play musical provinces. I siege, they control it, I leave, they leave, I come back...and eventually Venice is leading the sieges in all provinces...hooray!.

It looks like we’re going to pull off this minor victory. Roma falls and the sieges in Marche and Romanga are going well (both siege bars are dark yellow). Only 12 months left this turn.

Continuous revolts in Croatia, Ragusa, etc. have been occurring all this time.

I have a moment to look around it is then that the small voice in the back of my head speaks up, "Uh oh, where did those 12K Papal troops hiding behind the dark red flag in Siena go?" Oh damn! They went to Tuscany (owned by Denmark who is at war with the Pope). The Popal States now controls Tuscany.

Like Siena though, we can't enter the province without being at war with Denmark. I will never achieve a high enough victory percentage to get Marche and Romanga.

Well, desperate times lead to desperate measures. We declare war on Denmark with a CB, bam -1 stab for same faith, more revolts.

Venice attacks the Popal States troops in Tuscany and defeats them. Marche and Romanga fall. 3 months left. We assualt the Papal forces holed up in Florence. This is risky since the wall is not yet breached...but we have cannons and outnumber their forces 3 to 1.


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A drawing of our bombardieres (artillerymen) on the outskirts of Florence

Tuscany falls.

Decmeber 1524. We reach a peace agreement with the Papal States. Romanga and Marche to Venice. Peace is also signed with Denmark. We are at war with no one...other than some limited rebel forces. All active revolters have been put down and provinces controlled by rebel scum are under siege...or our troops are enroute. I hope the Doge lets them stay on course.

SIDENOTE: Please check out www.doge.it for some decent information on Venice. The above picture is from that site.
 
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It looks like were are all starting to push the time limit in getting what we want. I wonder who will be the first to fail to end a war they are fighting when their time runs out and they have to pass the game on to the next player? Usually the 16th century is a very important century.;)

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Venice

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France & Spain France and Spain also have large colonial empires...but...alas...I cannot see them on my limited map...I only hear of their conquests against strange sounding tribes such as Navaho and Maya...

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Sweden Sweden also controls Bujak on the Caspian Sea
 
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france 1524-1529

France started out with a HUGE army...raging warexhaustion & -1 stability....so I quickly ended the war with Benin...and began looking for things to do with my army....

army as of 1524: (ca.)
Inf 250,000
Cav 50,000
Art 280 guns

for a grand total upkeep at 100% of 89d per month...
.......................

January 1, 1524 : Our stability dropped."

March 5, 1524 : We successfully established a Trading Post in St. Martin"

March 10, 1524 : We discovered Bermuda Triangle"
May 9, 1524 : We discovered Cheasapeake Bay"
May 9, 1524 : We discovered Delaware"
May 9, 1524 : We discovered Lenape."
May 9, 1524 : We discovered Susquehanna"
May 9, 1524 : We discovered Manhattan"
(...ahh how nice new places to see, to conquer, and to destroy! :D )

September 1, 1524 : France declared war upon Navarra."
September 1, 1524 : Bohemia joined the war on the same side as Navarra, Siena, Eire and Sweden in their war against France.
(those people of Navarra really are some sneaky bastards...this is my second war against them and I have yet to actually fight them in any battle! ...cowards they bloody cowards!)

September 8, 1524 : We discovered Bay of Fundy"
September 8, 1524 : We discovered Nova Scotia"
(...more nice places, perhaps I shold buy a summer house there...no wait why not two!)

November 26, 1524 : Sweden declared war upon Denmark."
November 26, 1524 : Bohemia joined the war on the same side as Sweden, Siena, Eire and Navarra in their war " against Denmark."

December 1, 1524 : Our stability increased.
(yahooo! ...)

January 1, 1525 : Our land technology increased to Renaissance (14). We will be much more efficient in combat"

January 15, 1525 : Poland went with Make it a personal royal fiefdom in The Polish Inheritance of Masovia. "

February 24, 1525 : We discovered Cape Hatteras"
February 24, 1525 : We discovered Santee"
February 24, 1525 : We discovered Roanoke"

April 8, 1525 : Sweden now has a trade agreement with Teutonic Order."

April 16, 1525 : Nobles Ally with Foreign Power happened to us."
April 16, 1525 : Our stability dropped."
April 16, 1525 : Our stability dropped."
(nooooo! :( - ...this turn around stability or the lack of it has really been my weakness!)

June 5, 1525 : Eire accepted our generous peace offer.
(exit ireland...welcome to the empire of france!)

September 1, 1525 : Bohemia accepted our generous peace offer.
(...wurtemburg, sudeten, ? & silesia to France)

September 1, 1525 : France declared war upon Genoa.
(they are soo rude in Genoa....the final straw was when a prominant genovese trader called the queen of france ugly...well we know but u still shouldnt say that out laud!...anyway we had a handy CB from a diplomatic insult!)

September 1, 1525 : Naples joined the war on the same side as Genoa, Albania, Papal States, Austria and Münster in their war against France."

September 9, 1525 : We successfully established a Trading Post in Isle Royale"
(yes...more trade!)

October 30, 1525 : France accepted peace with Navarra on the following terms : Return to Status Quo.
(who called France a mad warmongering bastard...see we can be very peaceful :) )

November 1, 1525 : Our stability increased.
(wuhuu! :D )


November 4, 1525 : France accepted peace with Naples on the following terms : Return to Status Quo.
(peace love & harmony)


November 29, 1525 : France accepted peace with Albania on the following terms : Return to Status Quo.
(peace love and carrot juice!)
February 11, 1526 : France accepted peace with Papal States on the following terms : Return to Status Quo.
(love and lots of devotion to god!)

March 24, 1526 : We discovered Gulf of Mexico
(...tequila! :D )

May 3, 1526 : France declared war upon Lenape.
(well,...they arent even christians....so that doesnt count as aggression does it?)

August 29, 1526 : Austria had The Habsburg Inheritance of Hungary .
August 29, 1526 : Austria annexed Hungary.
August 29, 1526 : Bohemia went with Accept the Habsburgs as Elected Kings in The Death of King Lajos of Bohemia.
August 29, 1526 : Austria entered a Royal Marriage with Bohemia.
August 29, 1526 : Austria had The Habsburg Inheritance of Bohemia .
August 29, 1526 : Bohemia became Vassals of Austria.
(...and suddenly Austria which I was at war with...was slightly bigger!)

September 23, 1526 : Lenape accepted our generous peace offer
(...saved them from the hellfire...well, annexed them anyway!)

December 4, 1526 : We captured the province of Austria from Austria"

December 26, 1526 : Non-enforcement of Ordinances happened to us.
(rats!...)

January 1, 1527 : We discovered Strait of Labrador"
January 4, 1527 : Verazzano has died.
(...and so died my explorer! :( )


April 2, 1527 : Spain accepted peace with Aztec Empire on the following terms : Tampico to Spain & Saltillo to Spain.

January 22, 1528 : Spain went with Give Malta to the Knights of St: John in The Knights of St: John of Jerusalem.
January 22, 1528 : The Knights became Vassals of Spain.
January 22, 1528 : The Knights went with Accept Malta and become a Spanish vassal in Spain gives Malta to the Order.

September 12, 1528 : Honorable Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Venice!
(...here u go!)

September 23, 1528 : Diplomatic Insult happened to us.
(navarre I think...phyhhhf I already have a permanent CB vs them!)

November 20, 1528 : Honorable Lord, our State Gift has drastically improved our relations with Venice.
(...here u go again!)

December 13, 1528 : Austria accepted our generous peace offer."
(...Salzburg, Ostmark, Moravia & carpatia to France)
 

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Re: france 1524-1529

Originally posted by boehm




April 2, 1527 : Spain accepted peace with Aztec Empire on the following terms : Tampico to Spain & Saltillo to Spain.

January 22, 1528 : Spain went with Give Malta to the Knights of St: John in The Knights of St: John of Jerusalem.
January 22, 1528 : The Knights became Vassals of Spain.
January 22, 1528 : The Knights went with Accept Malta and become a Spanish vassal in Spain gives Malta to the Order.


Way to go Spain! I left a large army in Central America and I'm happy to see that the Spanish AI was smart enough to use them. I always liked the knights!:D

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January 3 1534 at the court of King Carlos I.

Pedro walked down the long corridor toward the meeting room of Carlos I with his personal secretary trailing behind. He nodded to the nobles who lined the corridor who bowed as he passed. His power at court was undisputed and he knew it. Juan, his personal secretary carried the latest edition of the last five-year period in the history of Spain, her friends and her rivals. Pedro entered the king’s meeting room and the doors closed behind him. King Carlos sat at the table looking relaxed and secure. Without waiting Pedro started the now familiar ritual between him and the king. Bowing to the king he opened the tome and started to read.


1534 found France at war with Genoa and Spain at war alone against the Aztec Empire, The Mayan and the Navaho. Spain was in an alliance with England, Scotland, Poland and the Knights. Our international reputation was extremely bad

The first new war of the year came about when Sweden declared war against Russia. Lithuania joined Sweden but the Teutonic Order dishonored the alliance. Russia stood alone.

Early in the year England decide to go protestant and left the alliance. Losing England as an ally is troublesome.

Before the year was done a Status Quo peace had been reached between Spain and the Navaho and soon after also with the Mayans. Now the Aztec Empire stood alone against Spain.

In the continuing shifting of alliances the Teutonic Order joined in the Venice, Bavaria, Savoy and France alliance.

1534 opened as it closed with revolts throughout France. The peasants in Silesia, Brabant, Leone, Piemonte, Moravia, Carpathia, Flandern, Ostmarch, Sudeten and Holstein all revolted against France that year. Brabant and Leone twice!

Not much changed for France during 1535. Jylland, Anhalt, Holstein, Geldre, Koln, Mainz, Munster, Kent, Oldenburg revolted. Jylland twice! France however did receive 93 ducats from Genoa for peace.

The only activity in Venice was when Cyprus revolted.

In December the last Aztec province fell and they were absorbed into the Spanish Empire.

1536 was very quiet for France as only Ostmarch revolted. Oh and Dahomey declared its independence from France.

Spain spent the year exploring North and South America. Trade posts and a few colonies were started.

1537 did not start out well for Sweden as Austria declared war. Albania, Papal States, Genoa and Naples joined Austria. Lithuania joined Sweden. This was further confused when the Teutonic Order declared war against Lithuania. Sweden joined Lithuania while Venice, Bavaria and Savoy joined the Teutonic Order. France dishonored the alliance. However less that two months later France rejoined the alliance and declared war against Lithuania and Sweden.

France also saw Erz defect to the crown of Bohemia. In Africa Dahomey entered a military alliance with Songhai and of course there were the usual revolts. This time Lyonnais and Ulster.

Spain stayed out of trouble and continued exploring.

1538 saw Sweden declare itself the defender of the Protestant faith. Spain was surprised that they had the money to do this! The war with Russia ended with Sweden getting 50 ducats. Plus Arkhangelsk and Vologda went to Sweden. Sweden suffered a wave of revolts in Novgorod and the Highlands.
Spain continued to stay out of trouble even thought its reputation was dishonorable scum.

France had a busy year with revolts in Salzburg, Anhalt, Mecklemburg, Wessex, Hannover, Ostmarch and Silesia. Holstein declared its independence and declared war against France. Venice joined France in the war. Bavaria, Savoy and the Teutonic Order dishonored the alliance.

Venice had a revolt in Steiermark.

In 1539 the Standings showed France with a clear lead.

France 2811
Spain 1351
Venice 1176
China 808
Sweden 647
Mugal Empire 596
Vijayanagar 544
 

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December 14, 1539:

"Francisco, send a Declaration of War to Tuscany as planned by my predecessor. However, with regard to Naples and Genoa, I think we shall try peaceful diplomacy instead of conquest. Our national stability is very low. We can ill afford two simultaneous and controversial conflicts. Isn't Albania the leader of their alliance?"

"Yes my Doge. That is correct.", I quickly stammered in a poor attempt to hide my surprise at this abrupt change in our approach to foriegn policy. Doge Pietro Lando had just been elected by the Ten two days ago. However, it was already evident that Venice now had a leader who thought for himself. Personally, I was pleasantly surprised by his orders. It would be nice to fight a limited war for a change. It had seemed to me that the last fifteen years had been filled with non-stop conflict against foreign powers and internal rebel uprsinings.

I summoned the head of our diplomatic corps and relayed the Doge's instructions to him. I then set about preparing for the coming conflict in Tuscany and Siena...

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A young court messenger delivers a package while I am discussing plans with the Savio alla scrittura (the main administrative official for the Army of the Republic of Venice). He is wearing a long winter garment lined with fur. I am outiftted in armor and a red cloak, hanging from the shoulder, closed by three large golden buttons. Although more uncomfortable and cumbersome than my field armor, this is the proper attire for the political authority of the Army of the Republic.

SIDENOTE: Please check out www.doge.it for some decent information on Venice. The above picture and description are from that site.

Initial Conditions:

1539 found Cyprus controlled by rebel forces, our stability is at -2, and we are at war with Holstein along with our French ally. France.


January 1539:

Naval squadrons ordered to nearest ports to replenish supplies.
Armies ordered to regroup in Macedonia, Veneto, Emilia, and Marche.
Holstein accepted our generous peace offer.
We lost a battle against Rebel Scum in Silesia.
10,000 troops are stranded in Poland since we don't have military access with our neighbors.
The peasants in Schwyz are revolting against us!

February 1539:

Holstein accepted peace with France, Full Annexation of Holstein by France

March 1539:

Spain declared war upon Maya.
Lithuania accepted peace with Genoa and pays 43$ in indemnities.

April 1539:

The peasants in Sudeten are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Thrace are revolting against us!
We won a battle against Rebel Scum in Schwyz.

May 1539:

France now grants us military access (our boys in Poland come home).
England entered a Military Alliance with Portugal, Scotland, Poland, The Knights, and Spain.

July 1539:

The peasants in Silesia are revolting against the Monarch of France!
Austria accepted peace with Sweden, Sweden pays 275$ in indemnities.
We won a battle against Rebel Scum in Thrace.

August 1539:

Our stability increased.

September 1539:

The peasants in Hellas are revolting against us!

October 1539:

A White Peace was signed between France and Dahomey.
France declared war upon Iroqouis.
We won a battle against Rebel Scum in Hellas.

November 1539:

We lost a battle against Rebel Scum in Cyprus.

December 1539:

France acquired a monopoly in Ile de France.
Pietro Lando will now rule our glorious nation (excellent stats)!
Leonardo Foscolo awaits your command in Emilia (yes!).

January 1540:

Diplomatic insult sent to Tuscany (our relations are too high and a DoW will cost us an extra -1 stab).

February 1540:

Venice declared war upon Tuscany, Siena, Navarra, Bohemia, Bavaria. -3 stab.
France joins Venice.

March 1540:

The peasants in Ostmarch are revolting against the Monarch of France!
We have initiated a siege in Firenze.
We won a battle against Siena in Siena.
We have initiated a siege in Siena.
France acquired a monopoly in Ivoria.

May 1540:

The people of Cyprus declared independence from Venice.
Cyprus declared war upon us!
France dishonored your Military Alliance.
Sweden accepted peace with Genoa and pays 15$ in indemnities.
Reformation of the Navy happened to us.
We entered a Royal Marriage with Lithuania.
We won a battle against Siena in Siena.

June 1540:

Bavaria accepted peace with France, Full Annexation of Bavaria by France
We won a battle against Cyprus in Cyprus.
We have initiated a siege in Cyprus.

August 1540:

The peasants in Pfalz are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Holstein are revolting against the Monarch of France!

September 1540:

We captured the province of Firenze from Tuscany. We annex Tuscany in a separate peace.

(BIG MISTAKE HERE NOT THINKING) Venice accepted peace with Navarra (Doh!, the red siege bar in Siena is now gone and our guys are standing around). I hate it that the pop up boxes don't identify the alliance you are negotiating with...GRRRR.

Sweden went with Hansa-friendly Reforms in The Centralization Reforms of Gustav Vasa.

October 1540:

The peasants in Arkhangelsk are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

November 1540:

The peasants in Mecklemburg are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Småland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Pskov are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Vologda are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
Honorable Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Albania.

December 1540:

Spain now has a trade agreement with Teutonic Order.

January 1541:

Our stability increased.
The peasants in Narvik are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Vologda are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Arkhangelsk are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

February 1541:

Huron accepted peace with France on the following terms and pays 75$ in indemnities.
Honorable Lord, our State Gift has moderately improved our relations with Albania.

May 1541:

The peasants in Holstein are revolting against the Monarch of France!
Honorable Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Albania.
Siena accepted peace with France and is Annexed (see what happens when you mess up on peace treaties!)
France acquired a monopoly in Ile de France.

June 1541:

The peasants in Jämtland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Schwyz are revolting against us!

July 1541:

The peasants in Ulster are revolting against the Monarch of France!

August 1541:

The peasants in Münster are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Skåne are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
We entered a Royal Marriage with Albania.
Iroqouis accepted peace with France and pay 24$ in indemnities along with giving up military access.
Enthusiasm for the Army happened to us.

September 1541:

We won a battle against Rebel Scum in Schwyz.

October 1541:

The peasants in Sudeten are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Østlandet are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Champagne are revolting against the Monarch of France!

November 1541:

The peasants in Mecklemburg are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Brabant are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Ingermanland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
Venice entered a Military Alliance with Albania, Papal States, Austria, Genoa, Naples and Savoy.
Venice joined the war on the same side as Austria, Albania, Papal States and Naples in their war against Lithuania.
Austria accepted peace with Lithuaniaand receives 124$ in indemnities.

December 1541:

Jean Calvin happened to us.

January 1542:

The peasants in Sudeten are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Jämtland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Arkhangelsk are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

February 1542:

The peasants in Flandern are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Gotland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

March 1542:

The peasants in Kexholm are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Jämtland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Småland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Silesia are revolting against the Monarch of France!

NOTE: Revolting against the Monarch of Sweden seems to be all the rage lately...our peasants in Bulgaria are even asking if they can revolt against the Monarch of Sweden.

April 1542:

We captured the province of Cyprus from Cyprus and annex Cyprus.

May 1542:

The peasants in Brabant are revolting against the Monarch of France!
Honorable Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Naples.

June 1542:

The peasants in Hannover are revolting against the Monarch of France!

July 1542:

Brandenburg cancelled the Vassalization she had with France.
Brandenburg converts to Protestant.
The peasants in Bern are revolting against us!
Poland cancelled the Vassalization she had with Portugal.
Papal States went with Spanish model inquisition in Reorganization of the Holy Inquisition.

August 1542:

The peasants in Würzburg are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Geldre are revolting against the Monarch of France!
The peasants in Østlandet are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

September 1542:

Our stability increased.
Teutonic Order broke the Royal Marriage she had with Venice.
Teutonic Order converts to Protestant.
Conversion of Heretics happened to us, Cyprus converts to state religion.

October 1542:

We have competed for trade in Andalusia and Spain lost a merchant.
We won a battle against Rebel Scum in Bern.
Sweden went with Crush the rebellion in The Dacke Feud.
The peasants in Småland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Småland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Finland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Kexholm are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

NOTE: This revolting against Sweden is even more popular than a Tickle me Elmo doll was a few years ago before Christmas.

November 1542:

Our stability dropped (more narrowminded).

December 1542:

The peasants in Østlandet are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

January 1543:

Honorable Lord, our State Gift has drastically improved our relations with Austria.
France acquired a monopoly in Mecklemburg.

February 1543:

Saxony cancelled the Vassalization she had with France.
Saxony converts to Protestant.
The peasants in Savolaks are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Vologda are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

March 1543:

The peasants in Gästrikland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Bergenshus are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

April 1543:

The peasants in Skåne are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Strathclyde are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Ingermanland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Bergenshus are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Västergötland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

NOTE: Maybe the same guy is ruling both Sweden and The Golden Horde in this game.

May 1543:

We entered a Royal Marriage with Naples.

June 1543:

The peasants in Finland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
Unhappiness among the Merchants happened to us.

July 1543:

The peasants in Savolaks are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Pskov are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

August 1543:

Our stability increased. +3 again.
The peasants in Tavastland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Lappland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Ingermanland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Bujak are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

NOTE: I didn't know there were that many people in all of Sweden.

September 1543:

Naples is now our vassal.

October 1543:

The peasants in Kexholm are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Ingermanland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Pskov are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
A White Peace was signed between Maya and Navaho and Spain.
We start building a manufactury.

November 1543:

The peasants in Vologda are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Narvik are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in Finland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!
The peasants in The Highlands are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

NOTE: I am getting really tired of cutting and pasting this revolt text...someone tell those Swedes to settle down already!

December 1543:

The peasants in Gotland are revolting against the Monarch of Sweden!

January 1, 1544:

The peasants in Anhalt are revolting against the Monarch of France!
Honorable Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Genoa. They should be regarded as the closest of our friends!.


France 3015
Spain 1368
Venice 1231
Sweden 647
 
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Originally posted by Lionheart
Very amusing and I liked your feeble attempts to cut France down to size. ;)

Hey, anyone fancy doing another one of these games playing with some of the smaller nations. I have in mind Tibet, Dakota, one African nation and, maybe, Ryazan.


We will be playing another PBEM with smaller nations and some slightly different rules when this one is over (a few more weeks). Check our PBEM thread for discussions on what we want to do/change. We are looking to add a 5th player also.:) Not sure if we have anyone in mind yet. I'm going to copy this post and put it in the PBEM thread on the MP forum for the other guys to see. Look for responses there...:)

Also, there are several other MP PBEM games running as well...which may be willing to add you on...they each have threads in the MP section. If that doesn't work, just post a new thread asking for interested players in the MP forum. The game threads I've seen go up have gotten responses back pretty quickly.

Thanks for showing interest in our game.:):D;):cool:
 

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Re: Venice 1539-1544

Originally posted by Backpack

Spain declared war upon Maya.
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Spain is certainly fixated on Central America. I'm sure that doesn't come as a surprise.
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NOTE: Revolting against the Monarch of Sweden seems to be all the rage lately...our peasants in Bulgaria are even asking if they can revolt against the Monarch of Sweden.
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Francw was raked with rebellions during my turn and now Sweden. I hope what ever they have isn't contagious.
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A White Peace was signed between Maya and Navaho and Spain.
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That's it! All Spain can get is a white peace? Sigh.

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France 3015
Spain 1368
Venice 1231
Sweden 647

France continues to expand its lead.:eek:

It looks like your in a strong alliance Backpack. Stay friendly with Austria.;)

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Originally posted by Lionheart
Very amusing and I liked your feeble attempts to cut France down to size. ;)

Hey, anyone fancy doing another one of these games playing with some of the smaller nations. I have in mind Tibet, Dakota, one African nation and, maybe, Ryazan.

Yes I think we'll be doing another one with small countries. I think they are going to be in close proximity to each other. It makes if more interesting it you have contact with the other players countries. It promotes deal making and backstabbing. :D TIBET? You want to play TIBET? I've tried several times and haven't been able to do anything with them. You have to be masochistic to want to play them. :D Post on our thread in the MP forum about joining the next game. I don't know if we have added anyone yet.

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France 1544-1549

First a bit of statistics:

Techlevels compared!! (Land/Navel/Trade-efficiency):

France (16/5/79%)
Sweede (12/6/65%)
Spain (12/6/57%)
Venice (12/6/72%)

...England (13/11/73%) - I know England is not a player nation but I must say that their techs impressed me a bit.

The French state could have been a bit more stable..."0"
but atleast my armed services was in great shape!

190K inf, 43K cav & 240guns
77 warships, 0 galleys & 48 transports

February 1, 1544 : Our stability increased."

February 7, 1544 : France accepted peace with Navarra on the following terms : Navarra pays 19$ in indemnities. "

May 27, 1544 : Venice has cancelled the treaty of military access they had in our country.
(...ohuhh Venice is preparing to attack me me think...:D )

July 20, 1544 : Saxony entered a Military Alliance with Brandenburg."
(..why those dirte germans...first they claim to have seen the light and have officially changed thair religion to protestant and also thereby ended their vassalization to France...and now the dare to ally against me! me!!!)

September 1, 1544 : Bohemia left the Military Alliance she had with Navarra."
September 1, 1544 : Bohemia cancelled the Vassalization she had with Austria."
September 1, 1544 : Bohemia converts to Protestant."
(...well, atleast Im not the only one...)

September 25, 1544 : Meteor Sighted happened to us.
(...I just love those lovely spots of fire travelling across the sky! :) )

January 7, 1545 : England had The Merchant Adventures . "
January 24, 1545 : England had The Muscowy Trade Company . "

February 17, 1545 : Papal States had The Counter-Reformation and the Reformation of the Catholic Faith . "
September 23, 1545 : Diplomatic Move happened to us."
(...with none other than Navarre, perhaps they have seen that it doesnt pay to stand against the might of France...although they have survived 3 wars now...not many minors can claim such a statistic!)

October 1, 1545 : Our stability increased."
(jihaaa)

January 3, 1546 : Venice entered a Royal Marriage with Genoa.
January 4, 1546 : Genoa became Vassals of Venice."
(hremph!)

March 23, 1546 : France declared war upon Huron."
March 23, 1546 : Iroqouis joined the war on the same side as Huron in their war against France."
(its just because they keep stealing my trade in Manhatten!)
August 24, 1546 : Huron accepted our generous peace offer.
(annexed and +1 stability to me! ...I just cant afford NOT to annex!)

October 1, 1546 : Our stability increased."

December 16, 1546 : Iroqouis accepted our generous peace offer.
(...and another +1 stability! :D )

February 15, 1547 : France declared war upon Shawnee."
February 15, 1547 : Cherokee joined the war on the same side as Shawnee in their war against France."
February 15, 1547 : Creek joined the war on the same side as Shawnee and Cherokee in their war against France."

September 11, 1547 : Shawnee accepted our generous peace offer."
September 11, 1547 : Cherokee accepted our generous peace offer."
( :D +2 stability!)

September 11, 1547 : Honorable Lord, our Letter of Introduction has slightly improved our relations with China. "
hello! :)

October 17, 1547 : We went with Deny Petition in Petition for Redress."
(eek...-4 stability I think NOT!)
October 17, 1547 : Our stability dropped."

January 6, 1548 : Austria went with Middle-ground in The Imperial Parliament at Augsburg. "

January 29, 1548 : Creek accepted our generous peace offer."
(ahhh finally at +3 stability!)

January 29, 1548 : Our stability dropped."
( hmm it seems the people gets upset just because we infringe a bit on their traditional rights...+1 serf)

September 5, 1548 : Ottoman Empire had The Great Legal Reform . "

December 19, 1548 : Spain declared war upon Maya."

.......besides this France build a number of tradeposts/colonies in North America & I also ordered lots of conversions of those weird new Reformed heretics in France...and also tried to introduce the indians of North America to the catholic faith....quite amazing I actually managed to pretty much continually use all my missionaries this round...
 

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For anyone who might be interested in what our current slider settings are…

1555

Spain

aristocracy = 10
centralization = 4
innovative = 1
mercantilism = 10
offensive = 7
land = 10
quality = 6
serfdom = 7

badboy = 35


France

aristocracy = 6
centralization = 4
innovative = 2
mercantilism = 7
offensive = 7
land = 10
quality = 9
serfdom = 8

badboy = 255

Sweden

aristocracy = 5
centralization = 3
innovative = 4
mercantilism = 6
offensive = 5
land = 6
quality = 8
serfdom = 5

badboy = 57

Venice

aristocracy = 7
centralization = 2
innovative = 1
mercantilism = 7
offensive = 0
land = 2
quality = 10
serfdom = 5

badboy = 93


My settings aren’t perfect since I have been unable to have constant control of Venice. However, it is interesting (at least to me) to note the differences we have selected (i.e. Venice goes against the trend and has moved towards 0 on offensive for siege/defense bonuses)
 

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Re: For anyone who might be interested in what our current slider settings are…

Originally posted by Backpack
[B it is interesting (at least to me) to note the differences we have selected (i.e. Venice goes against the trend and has moved towards 0 on offensive for siege/defense bonuses) [/B]

well at least in my case its not so much what I have selected as what the AI has selected for me....personally I think that the defensive vs. offensive slider only has 3 good settings....10, 1 and 0....anything else than this is inefficient...but as its not just "one click away" I have passed on going to 10....since eventually there will be some histrical events giving me -2 or something like that....so I have surrendered to the will of the AI and accepted whatever setting it wants....:)
 

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My pet peeve for this game is the serfdom/free subjects slider. I either like to play at max free subjects (peaceful expansion) or at max serfdom (warmonger). The added recovery time for stability hits is really painful in this game. I think that is the slider I will fiddle with next.

This is actually the first time I have opened up a save game file (or any game file) in Word and looked around. Your e-mail about Venice's colonization AI settings actually started my gamefile and AI file exploration. I need to do a little reading up on the AI file components before we build our own for next game. For instance, I'm not sure what the fortress, etc parameters/modifiers are for the crusader ai.


I will change the player names after my next turn so it doesn't say COMPUTER on the victory points screen. That always bothered me and I didn't know how to change it.
 

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Re: For anyone who might be interested in what our current slider settings are…

Originally posted by Backpack
1555

(i.e. Venice goes against the trend and has moved towards 0 on offensive for siege/defense bonuses)

When ever I play Venice I go for full defense! That bonus to siege is doubly powerful with Venice. In fact in most my games I end up with full defensive once I have land and quality where I want them. And France you have been a very bad boy but then we already knew that.

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Re: Re: For anyone who might be interested in what our current slider settings are…

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When ever I play Venice I go for full defense! That bonus to siege is doubly powerful with Venice. In fact in most my games I end up with full defensive once I have land and quality where I want them. And France you have been a very bad boy but then we already knew that.

Joe

I thought the siege bonus was more important than some of my other sliders since we have the 5 year turn limits in our PBEM game.
 

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Pedro Antonio de Sancta Clara noticed that king Carlos I was looking tired and restive for this important meeting. He decided that the king needed a little cheering up and so he started with the report on the last five years with a little up beat presentation.

"Your majesty I am happy to report that the latest five year plan was successful beyond of best projections. All goals were achieved and even exceeded in some cases."

Pedro then nodded to Juan, his secretary, who started to read the latest status report on the Spanish Empire.

In 1554 Spain spent a large amount of money on improving its relations with its allies, England, Poland, the Knights and Portugal. The Teutonic Order declared war against Lithuania. Bohemia and Scotland joined the Teutonic Order. Sweden joined Lithuania. Both Carlos and Pedro were in agreement that Sweden really should find a different ally if they were ever going to get out of the constant wars that Lithuania was involved in. Some things never seem to change as Hessen, Savannah, Mecklemburg, Ulster, Friesen and Apulia revolted against France. Pedro wondered if the French would take the hint and free some of its conquered subjects?

1555 opened with the shipping off from Spain to Central America of tens of thousands of soldiers for the anticipated war against the Mayan Empire. For too long they had been a thorn in Spain’s side and Pedro was determined to destroy them. But first the build up of war resources was necessary. The only other note of interest was that Brabant, Silesia, Eire and Holstein revolted against France.

In 1556 Austria joined the Teutonic Order alliance and joined the war against Lithuania and Sweden. Sweden settled for peace with Scotland by paying 25 ducats and giving the Grampians to Scotland. Sweden was probably better off without the Grampians. Meanwhile Genoa canceled its vassalage to Venice while Apulia revolted against Venice. Now what else happened? Oh yes, Piemonte, Mainz, Jylland, Munster, Sudeten, Brabant, Salzburg, Kent and Brabant revolted against, guess who.

In October King Carlos I died and Spain was now ruled by King Felipe II. Not quite as strong a ruler as Carlos I.

The year closed with Russia declaring war against Lithuania. Sweden joined Lithuania. Russia stood alone.

1557 and just to get it out of the way. Ostmarch, Brabant, Hessen, Magdeburg, Talahassee, Wessex, Anhalt, Connaught, Piemonte, Leinster and Silesia revolted against France. Crimea declared war against Lithuania. Sweden once again joined Lithuania while Ak Koyunlu, Algiers. Morocco and Nogai joined Crimea. Sweden declared itself the defender of the Protestant faith once again and a revolt broke out in Ostlandet against Sweden.

In November 1557 every thing was in place and Spain declared war against the Mayans. Spain didn’t ask any of its allies to join. The Navaho joined the Mayans. One month later the Navaho signed a Status Quo peace with Spain.

1558 was like any other year in that Kent, Wessex, Savannah, Ansbach, Hannover, Holstein, Flandern, Salzburg, Holland and Alabama revolted against France. Sweden was still at war as the year ended. Venice had been quiet for the past five years. Spain in November captured the last Mayan province and annexed the Mayan Empire.
 

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I'm amazed that France has managed to hold on to everything that it has conquered considering the constant revolts. Either Bohem and/or the AI have done a great job in putting down the revolts. How about it Bohem? Is the AI doing as good a job as it seems?

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Venice 1559-1564

Five men sat in wondrously carved mahogany chairs around a heavy wrought iron table. Warm beams of sunshine streamed in through thick glass panes of two large arched windows overlooking the harbor. Merrily flickering light from an ornate gem studded chandelier filled with hundreds of tiny candles chased away any remaining shadows. Finely woven tapestries hung from the walls and the boot heels of the assembled parties rested upon a plush burgundy colored rug. Each of us had a drink of his choice before him on the table. The room was very comfortable. I was very comfortable. The room’s other inhabitants were not.

Doge Girolamo Priuli had called us together for our monthly meeting to discuss future military plans and objectives. Fleet Admiral Veniero along with Admirals Quirini and Barbargio were representing the Navy. I was present to speak on issues pertaining to the Army. The topic of discussion was Venice’s lack of colonization and exploration. While the Admirals nervously fidgeted trying to answer the Doge’s increasingly disapproving sounding questions, I sat back and sipped my Scotch with an inward smile. I was quite happy to observe the military’s law of thermodynamics in action….oh, dear reader, you say that you are unfamiliar with this law…okay…well…allow me to explain it to you. It is quite a simple principle really. Let me see if I can find the exact wording here in my Army Officer’s Guide. Here it is. “Military Law of Thermodynamics – When the heat is on someone else, it isn’t on you.”

Where was I now...ah yes…the next statement from the Doge, “Gentleman we are falling behind Spain, France, and Portugal. The economic windfall harvested from their colonies is killing us. Those three nations have already claimed the majority of the Americas and Western Africa. The only unexploited areas remaining are in Asia. We must reach them before the other European powers. I ask you, my Admirals, when are we going to establish a sea route around Africa to the Orient?” The Admirals looked at the ceiling, at their drinks, at their feet, anywhere but at Doge Priuli. Yes sir things were running along just fine until that weasel, Admiral Barbargio (I never did like him), turned to the Doge and said, “My Liege, you are correct. We must find a way to the Orient. However, sending an explorer around Africa is not possible. Reports from our agents and foreign diplomats reveal that the coastline is controlled by our enemies. We will not be able to resupply for the entire voyage. Sire, the attrition will destroy any fleet we send before they even reach the Horn of Africa. I would like to propose an alternative route.” It was at this point that I came out of my blissful reverie and started paying a little more attention to what was happening. Admiral Barbargio stood up and used a wooden pointer to illustrate his plan on the map spread out on top of the table. “I propose that we reach the Orient by acquiring a port province on the Red Sea. This would cut the distance of our voyage down by at least sixty-five percent. Of course we would need a land bridge from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea as well. I’m sure that should be an easy feat for our powerful Army and accomplished Field Marshal.” Everyone’s eyes turned to me as Admiral Barbargio ran his pointer along a tract of land controlled by the Mameluks that extended from Alexandria to Nubia. I swear that I saw Fleet Admiral Veniero grin as the Doge said, “I like it. What is your plan Francisco?” That damn law of thermodynamics had just flopped around and I was feeling a little warm under the collar. I looked at the map, ran several thoughts through my head, and…my adventures from 1559-1564 were off to a fast start....


Here's the quick and dirty summary of what happened after that meeting.

DoW Mameluks. Cyrenica, Quatara, Cataract, Nile, Lebanon, and Aleppo to Venice. (100% victory)

DoW Nubia: Nubia and Batn Al Haiar to Venice.
(100% victory)

DoW Ottoman Empire & Co.: Morea, Kaffa, Trabzon, Kastamon, Antalya, Taurus, Adana, and Konya to Venice.
(100% victory)

Bad +3 revolt risk event during war with OE...damn!

Trade maps with other nations.

The first Venetian colonists embark on voyages to new lands. Our first wave of 6 traders heads out....none take...man this colonization thing is tough. Sent more colonists...and...building ships like mad in Nubia and Nile...we'll see if the AI can do anything.

p5ima6.jpg

A picture of our first frigate being constructed in Nubia. The Red Sea Squadron is about to become a reality...


Other nation events:

France:

Lots of French revolts...a 2 province Flanders forms...looking at the nation map mode shows 6 French provinces controlled by rebel scum.

Spain:

Still off conquering the new world....acquires several provinces...all quiet on the home front.

Sweden:
Still at war with Austria and the TO...can't really tell who is winning and who is losing that one from what is visible. I can see Lithuania (Swedish ally) and they are doing okay.

Victory Points

France 3496
Venice 1610
Spain 1576
Sweden 767
 
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