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I was wondering if there are any essential mods out there. Obviously I'm not going for total conversions straight off, but those which improve on the original. Anything which makes it more historically accurate/even bigger without increasing the difficulty too much would be welcome. Also, any tips which I won't find in the tutorial?
 

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My recommendations:

1. Download the latest vanilla patch: 1.09

2. Give the tutorial a try. It couldn't hurt, and you might even learn something. But don't be surprised if it bugs out, it wasn't designed for the more recent patches.

3. Ignore the instruction booklet, it's horribly outdated now. Instead, use the EUII Wiki:

http://dhost.info/arsud/mediawiki-1.4rc1/index.php/Main_Page

4. Play your first real game as 1492 France. They're almost invincible if you can avoid major mistakes. Russia is a little slower, and an inexperience player might run into a little problem if they get a little overzealous and end up at war with major Western powers too early.

5. Once you feel that you have the hang of the game, download and install the latest AGCEEP. This is certainly not necessary, as all it does is add a ton of new events, and you might not be used to the old ones, so don't rush it. Whenever you feel ready to sink deeper into history (or if you want to play a real Byzantium game), give it a go. Many, many of us swear by it, and we should. We made it.

Enjoy. :)
 

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And welcome to the best game you will ever play. :)

As mentioned there are plenty of good countries to play as to ease you into the game (France in 1492) or my favourite would be Portugal in the 1419 Grand Campaign. You can then learn how to explore, colonize and engage in diplomacy fairly early as well as trade in your Centre of Trade and engage in warfare should you wish with the North Africans to get the hang of it relatively safely.

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Up to you going to AGCEEP. I never tried it!

I recommend Portugal or Austria for starters, they are not that difficult but some challenge. France, England or Spain are too easy.

And... welcome!
 

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RichardTheFirst said:
Up to you going to AGCEEP. I never tried it!

Never?

You should try everything once.

Don't be a wuss.

Everyone's doing it.

You wanna be cool, don't you?

A little bit won't hurt you.

You're not a baby anymore.

Your hero/role model does it. Don't you want to be just like them?

It'll open your mind, man.

You want us to like you, right?

:p
 

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While I don't think any mod is "essential," in my opinion the best "deterministic" mod is AGCEEP and the best "fantasy" mod is Kaigon's IES. Very different types of gameplay. I personally like the open-ended setup, but both are enjoyable :^)

-Matt
 

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Thanks for the replies and welcome :) What about this 'MyMap' I've been hearing about?

Edit- Also would you reccomend getting Hearts of Iron 2, or waiting for the standalone expansion in April (seeing as it comes with original)? Is it as good as Universalis Europa 2?
 

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Tommyknocker said:
Thanks for the replies and welcome :) What about this 'MyMap' I've been hearing about?

Edit- Also would you reccomend getting Hearts of Iron 2, or waiting for the standalone expansion in April (seeing as it comes with original)? Is it as good as Universalis Europa 2?

MyMap is kind of mod that gives you different world map - basically with more provinces that are in the vanilla one. Its really cool..gives you more opportunities.
Only that i´m not sure about compatibility with AGCEEP... :confused:

HoI2 is great game but of slightly different kind that EU2. Well,the engine is the same,so they look quite similar and if you manage controls of one,you are confortable with the other.. but HoI is WW2..much smaller timescale,focused on warfare...
Ahem..its great game anyway :D
 

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Some tips mentioned on here on other threads that bear repeating for all new players:

1) This IS the best game ever made. It will consume your life. It's kind of like heroin without the whole "illegal" thing hanging over it.

2) This is a HISTORICAL simulation, not a war game. War is a PART of history, but like in history, too much war is bad. This game will smack you hard if you warmonger too much. World conquests (taking over everything) are POSSIBLE, but tedious to say the least.

3) This is a historical SIMULATION. Historical events add flavor to the game, and are designed to be plausible outcomes off history. After all, if the game repeated history exactly, it wouldn't be that much fun. You'd have nothing to do.

4) Play the Grand Campaign from 1419 a few times before downloading any MODS. I would recommend starting with the easy majors (England, France, Castile, or Austria) for the first 2-3 games, then trying a harder major (Muscovy, Ottomans, Poland, maybe Sweeden or Denmark) for the next 2-3 games, then try a minor or two before moving on to the downloadable mods.

5) Set goals for yourself that are reasonable but still challenging, like unifying Germany as Austria or eliminating France as England or converting all christians to Islam as the Ottomans. I usually have 4-5 overlapping goals every time I play, and I try to stick to them. The "Take over the whole world" goal, again while possible, is sometimes tedious.

6) The best two mods (already mentioned) are AGCEEP (Advanced Grand Campaign/Event Exchange Project, a merger of 2 mods) and the IES (Independent Europe Scenario) which is a FAR better fantasy mod than the Fantasia scenario in the game. The Fantasia scenario in the game is fairly worthless (imagine 400 years without any wars or major event. Yawn)

7) Have fun. And if you start to dream that little "tink-tink-tink, KABOOM, KABOOM" sound that happens during any battle, you'll know you've become one of us.
 

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I got this game less than a week ago and man this is GREAT!I havent played any other game for that time.I cant wait until vacations begin.I am not familiar yet to it that you cant warmonger anyway you like.I get used to it in HoI2.My first game were rather..uhm..disastrous.But im learning.
 

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I've just started playing and I agree the game is pretty addictive. I'm going to play the game straight up several times before I alter it. There is enough to learn/experience as it is! I'm playing Austria now, and will probably try Russia or England in game II. I picked up Crusader Kings because of the import game option, however when I went to play Crusader Kings I saw the complexity level was even higher than EU II. I'm reading the FAQs on it, but I think it will be a while before I attempt it.
 

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Tommyknocker said:
I was wondering if there are any essential mods out there. Obviously I'm not going for total conversions straight off, but those which improve on the original. Anything which makes it more historically accurate/even bigger without increasing the difficulty too much would be welcome. Also, any tips which I won't find in the tutorial?

I'd advise you to just install patch 1.09 first and give the game a try in the normal version first. Use mods later on. AGCEEP is a nice mod to try once you get the hang of the game, as is Aberration (unhistorical mod!).
 

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The only "essential" mod in my opinion is Daywalker's AI improvement mod. The game is still challenging in single player on some level after 4 years of playing due to this mod.

Welcome to the forums. You'll find a large and helpfulm community here. When single player gets too easy, please spend some time in the miltiplayer forums. Live real-time multiplayer sessions are easy to find for virtually every day of the week at any time of day or night.
 

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Stonewall said:
The only "essential" mod in my opinion is Daywalker's AI improvement mod. The game is still challenging in single player on some level after 4 years of playing due to this mod.

Welcome to the forums. You'll find a large and helpfulm community here. When single player gets too easy, please spend some time in the miltiplayer forums. Live real-time multiplayer sessions are easy to find for virtually every day of the week at any time of day or night.
His mod is incorporated into AGC-EEP now, IIRC.
 

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Thistletooth said:
Never?

You should try everything once.

Don't be a wuss.

Everyone's doing it.

You wanna be cool, don't you?

A little bit won't hurt you.

You're not a baby anymore.

Your hero/role model does it. Don't you want to be just like them?

It'll open your mind, man.

You want us to like you, right?

:p

Thistletooth, my man!

I remember you very well, you helped with my Economy Maps!

Funny also this language of your's, proposital childish type of humour.

Tell you why I'm not in AGCEEP:

- I went there to make contact with the mod, wanting to learn, but at the same time making a small quality test in order to quickly have an idea of the mod. The small test was just give several important suggestions on modifiying portuguese leaders names.
- seemed everybody was agreeing with the suggestions. Those would be really a good improvement to the names they had there. A complete joke in my oppinion (like in Vanilla too).
- in the middle of things somebody pointed me to some suggestions another portuguese guy had made more than a year before.
- two surprises:
1 - most of my suggestions have been already suggested by that guy one year before.
2 - nothing was made.
- my reaction was simply this: how can I take a mod seriously if good suggestions are not carried on...
- asked in the forum if they were joking (it was a figure of speech)
- they told me to buzzz off, that they don't need me. Told me goodbye in short.
- never wanted to even talk about AGCEEP after that. If they can't accept a figure of speech I cannot take seriously a mod with completely stupid names like "Correos" in it.
THE END

Anyway you play your AGCEEP and be happy. I'm very happy with my Vanilla. Nice to see you.