Just got the HRE as Skandinavia. Keep Vassal electors?

[Varvs]

So in my Denmark ironman game i finaly got the hre. Took long enough. Had enough electorvassals for quite some time but i had 2 queens in a row and of course one got to +72. Now that i got it and finaly added my capital to the empire i want to start on reforms. To do that i think i have to make the electors free aggain. Whats the best way to do so? breake vassalisation in the diplo screen? or loose a war and peace release them? I know if i release them in the diplomatic window i loose 25 prestige and get -200 opinnion with em. What will happen if i loose them in a peace treaty? Cuz i kinda think to trigger the coalition i have right now and just release my elector vassals that way. But cuz i play ironman i kinda wana know what happens to my relations to my former vassals.
Or is there a nother way to sett vassals free?

 

[Talar]

If you release them in a peace you also get the abandoned by overlord penalty, I don't remember the exact value but could have been -200 for that as well.

 

[Varvs]

damm also in a peace treaty? that suxs... hmmmath
200 ticking down 5 per year thats 40 years
diplo anexing give ticks down by 1? and is 25 penalty to all?
not sure on the numbers but i feel like anexing all at the same time and then force some members to be released from other princes and grant them elector status is the way to go.
but then i have -100 to all other princes and cant pass refroms cuz they hate me. Yay.

 

[Sorenzo]

Yeah, annexing a HRE member gives you a negative penalty with the entire empire. I think releasing them peacefully right after your next young king gets elected is the best option. Make sure you have enough provinces to add to get 100% imperial authority, since this makes electors more likely to vote for you.

I suggest starting by getting a couple of non-aligned electors on your side. Might be a good way to reduce the risk of someone stealing your empire.

You might also want to just go through the process slowly... Releasing one elector at a time until they're ready to vote for you again. This could take a hundred years for all I know.

 

[myrsl0ken]

Why do you want to release them? Having a HRE vassal only affects others tendancy to vote for you as emperor, not their tendancy to accept reforms.

 

[Varvs]

Well every subject elector equals 0.1 imperial authorety loss per month. so my 4 right now drain one IA each 2,5 months. Thats why i want to release them in the first place.