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The wiki and sites I have read give a good overview of what happens when you become emperor, but do not really detail out the specifics of how to do certain things. So I was wondering:

1) What are the best ways to increase my imperial authority? I have already broken some nations free, added lands to the HRE, but cannot seem to come up with anything else. Should I just keep attacking HRE members to break nations free from them?

2) Any recommendations on other things I should or should not do (like attack other member nations, get AE to high, etc.)

3) Any other tips to make this as fun and rewarding as possible would be appreciated.
 

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I just read another post about vassaling 3 of the electors to make yourself "emperor for life". Is this recommended (I got mine by getting relations up with the electors)? I thought there would be diplomatic repercussions for doing something like that?
 

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1) You should keep relations high with members and intervene in their wars in order to release the small members which got annexed you also get a new casus belli when a prince gets annexed as well defending against foreigners is obviously the best way but if you are a strong emperor you will scare off many outsiders. You should try not to add you own provinces into the empire until before the second to last reform as that is the only one you really need everyone on board also attacking people and changing their religion is good to do. Demand religious conversion is okay for bigger nations that you cant force religion on but it reduces your opinions greatly if you spam it.

2) You should continue conquering outside the empire and avoid inside the empire. Vassalizing electors is generally a good idea as well 3 usually works though 4 is technically required to be safe. You should attempt to vassalize them as quickly as possible as if you only get a few and you current king dies you will lose the imperial title as you get a -50 for ever elector you have vassalized with non-vassal electors.

3) Have an overarching goal in mind. What is your grand plan?
 

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1) You should keep relations high with members and intervene in their wars in order to release the small members which got annexed you also get a new casus belli when a prince gets annexed as well defending against foreigners is obviously the best way but if you are a strong emperor you will scare off many outsiders. You should try not to add you own provinces into the empire until before the second to last reform as that is the only one you really need everyone on board also attacking people and changing their religion is good to do. Demand religious conversion is okay for bigger nations that you cant force religion on but it reduces your opinions greatly if you spam it.

2) You should continue conquering outside the empire and avoid inside the empire. Vassalizing electors is generally a good idea as well 3 usually works though 4 is technically required to be safe. You should attempt to vassalize them as quickly as possible as if you only get a few and you current king dies you will lose the imperial title as you get a -50 for ever elector you have vassalized with non-vassal electors.

3) Have an overarching goal in mind. What is your grand plan?

Great info, thanks DM!

1) If this how you get authority I assume it takes a long time (hundreds of years) to get all of the reforms done. Guess I will just bide my time, but I will follow the tips you gave.

2) OK, that makes sense. Now that I am emperor is it too late to vassal the electors?

3) I am Brandenburg and am about to form Germany. I plan on attacking and conquering through Muscovy into Asia, and colonizing the Siberia region. I guess now that I am emperor I will try to form the HRE. Is there something I should do to prepare for it, and will most nations join with me when I do so (like Austria for example).
 

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Also, I just remembered that I have something like a "holds imperial territory" CB on countries like Venice. Should I attack them to free up those lands? Will it give me authority? Will I have to annex those lands in order to get the authority?
 
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I just read another post about vassaling 3 of the electors to make yourself "emperor for life". Is this recommended (I got mine by getting relations up with the electors)? I thought there would be diplomatic repercussions for doing something like that?

Its often the easiest way to get it done. But it depends who you are and what things are like at the time. There is no CB to "un-vassal" somebody so thats a positive thing. Anyways if you can grab 3 vassals then you will be emperor for life basically (depending on how many electors in total but generally yes). The issue is that most electors have very pwoerful allies a lot of the time so you've either got to go for 3 or don't try at all. Or if u want to then definitely only take the 1 I think.

Its -50 reputation to other electors per elector u vassalized so 2 for example is a -100 relations hit which puts you out of contention for the other electors. Hence 1 or 3. IMHO.
 

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Its -50 reputation to other electors per elector u vassalized so 2 for example is a -100 relations hit which puts you out of contention for the other electors. Hence 1 or 3. IMHO.

Note: It's NOT a relation penality, but only a modifier to their decision whether or whether not to vote you emperor. Your normal diplomatic relationship doesnot suffer.
 

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The easiest way to farm IA is by using religion and force converting everyone. If the reformation hasn't hit yet or has just started then immediately convert. Then DOW one elector after the next using "revoke electorate cb" and force convert (meaning use war not the diplomatic emperor option) them all to your religion. Once you farmed the electors and their allies, use loans to get a cb on all the other "heretics" in the empire. Do this till you hit Ewiger Landsfriede. Once you pass that one use the diplomatic option to enforce your religion on all the large nations (bohemia, Austria, Switzerland, Bavaria, etc). Which should be enough to push you into Erbkaisertum. At that point any vassal you release that is part of the empire will no longer take up a diplo slot (unless you royal marriage them). So take lands, add them to the empire and then release a nation for it. Example, conquer Teutonic order, core their territory, add it to the empire, release them as a vassal. Alternatively if you want to save admin points, vassalize a nation, dipl-annex it, add provinces to the empire and release again. You can effectively pass 7 out of 8 reforms in about 20 years if you know what you are doing.
 

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Hey, in my Brandenburg->Prussia->Germany game i want OUT of the HRE, I am currently the emperor but I want to get the Ruina Imerii achievement... is this a really bad idea? are there any nasty surprises to watch out for?
 

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You can't dismantle the HRE while being the Emperor. I got the ruins imperii achievement for uniting the HRE (this also dismantles it) in one of the previous versions of the game. Not sure if this is still possible but if it is then all you need to do is unite the HRE.
 

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1) What are the best ways to increase my imperial authority? I have already broken some nations free, added lands to the HRE, but cannot seem to come up with anything else. Should I just keep attacking HRE members to break nations free from them?

These are the best ways, especially releasing HRE states (which you can exploit a bit by annexing some yourself in order to re-release them). The more HRE states there are, the better the bonuses you get, and small states are easily cowed into passing reforms. You can also defend HRE states against outsiders (although few powers will even try once you are strong). Adding territory is good, but it can be a limited resource, so you may want to save some of your lands for the later decisions.

If you take over as Emperor during the Reformation, you can also get a boost by imposing your religion on the HRE member states. You can be fairly indiscriminate with it as a Catholic, but both the rewards and risks are greater for a non-Catholic emperor.

Annexing electors in order to appoint new ones can also be fun, but there are limited opportunities to do it.

The first potentially awkward reform for you (if you are also an HRE member) is Ewiger Landfriede, as it prevents you from waging war to break up the HRE states into smaller pieces and hurts your army tradition, although as a slight plus, it ensures you will routinely get the 'peace within the empire' modifier, which generates a steady income of IA. The real power play as Emperor starts with Erbkaisertum. At this point you can forget about elections and eligibility, so if you have vassalised electors, you're free to annex them if you like. The real boon though is that HRE vassals don't consume a diplo slot, so you can immediately start diplo-vassalising indiscriminately. You can finish the job later with Revoke the Privilegia, but it's best not to rush this one as ideally you want it to be unanimously approved. Finally there's Renovatio Imperii, which is a double-edged sword: on the plus side you annex everyone left in the HRE and form a Germanic cultural union (if your primary culture is Germanic), but on the minus side you become just another country and lose all your special bonuses and powers (including the ability to have hordes of vassals without using up diplo slots), as well as killing off your country's special historical events. I'd say Renovatio is usually not worth it if you have major expansionist ambitions, but it works out well enough if you are Germanic and just want to unify you culture group ASAP.
 

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You can't dismantle the HRE while being the Emperor. I got the ruins imperii achievement for uniting the HRE (this also dismantles it) in one of the previous versions of the game. Not sure if this is still possible but if it is then all you need to do is unite the HRE.

Enacting the final reform does not give you the Ruina Imperii achievement in the current version. If you are the emperor and want to dismantle the HRE, you should start annexing any vassal electors you have, and make the other electors hate you. That way you probably won't be re-elected when your monarch dies. After someone else becomes emperor it's simply a matter of occupying the lands of all the electors and the emperor simultaneously. You can dismantle the empire before even peacing out of those wars.
 
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If you take over as Emperor during the Reformation, you can also get a boost by imposing your religion on the HRE member states. You can be fairly indiscriminate with it as a Catholic, but both the rewards and risks are greater for a non-Catholic emperor.

Could you explain this part further? IN terms of being a catholic emperor you can be more indiscriminate? Seems to me that during the reformation one might as well go with the tide as opposed to constantly resisting it because often states break religious unity, you DOW, force them back, they spawn rebels and convert again its an ANNOYING cycle.
 

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Could you explain this part further? IN terms of being a catholic emperor you can be more indiscriminate? Seems to me that during the reformation one might as well go with the tide as opposed to constantly resisting it because often states break religious unity, you DOW, force them back, they spawn rebels and convert again its an ANNOYING cycle.

If they convert back it's free IA. It's even better to be the first one to convert and then free IA from everyone joining you. Orthodox nations pretty much have the easiest time farming IA once they are emperor.
 

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Could you explain this part further? IN terms of being a catholic emperor you can be more indiscriminate?

Catholics are generally the dominant side and you can keep them that way. There's not much IA in it for you (although it can be a modest boost towards the next reform if you time it right), but it's good to keep the Empire clean. If you enforce religious unity diplomatically on a heretic HRE member, you get an opinion penalty with other HRE members of that heresy. This is not a problem as long as you never have that many heretics. There's also the military route to force-conversion, but this will give you AE all over the place, which may be worse than the religious unity penalties.

As a non-Catholic, generally most of the Empire will stay Catholic unless you push your religion, which will mean a long period of bad relations, but a lot of IA. With Protestant/Reformed, it's a good idea to start by converting minors that are scattered all over the empire, so the religion has a chance to spread. However you do it though, you'll have big opinion penalties for a while with the remaining Catholics.