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Sounds great.
I'm available from (before) 10am - 4pm and/or 7pm - 10pm if I've converted that correctly - I think we're 10 hours ahead of Denmark (CEST) at the moment. I don't mind losing a little sleep to get to play another mp game.
I'm available from (before) 10am - 4pm and/or 7pm - 10pm if I've converted that correctly - I think we're 10 hours ahead of Denmark (CEST) at the moment. I don't mind losing a little sleep to get to play another mp game.
Just some more suggestions for rules:
*No bombing a capital's infra to below 40%, as it unfairly screws up the ESE for every single land unit that country has.
*Turning on full IC from 1st September 1939, as the Axis is in quite a tough position from the start (maybe turn it on earlier for Japan's benefit in China, don't forget it'll also benefit the UK and France with their colonies).
*No encircling undefended capitals.
*No bombing a capital's infra to below 40%, as it unfairly screws up the ESE for every single land unit that country has.
*Turning on full IC from 1st September 1939, as the Axis is in quite a tough position from the start (maybe turn it on earlier for Japan's benefit in China, don't forget it'll also benefit the UK and France with their colonies).
*No encircling undefended capitals.
I didn't realize the infra thing was so bad - that being the case, it seems a reasonable restriction -- something like 'no bombing when the infra is below 40' - that way when you can't bomb is clear; since you can't hit a precise infra reduction with your bombers.
I also agree with the encircled capital one, though I'd consider that level of play to fall under the general 'no exploits' rule.
I'm not as sure about full-IC takeover. Axis is at a disadvantage, true. They need some skill, luck and courage to win against the Allies superior economy. But I like it that way, that's the fun of playing team Axis
But I've honestly, never turned full-IC takeover on, how big of a help is it?
And actually, in my experience playing Germany, I feel like I run out of manpower before anything else is a problem, by late game I feel like I have ample IC as Germany without it, the limiting factors being the manpower & possibly rares. And perhaps less importantly, I've always felt the IC penalty was fair for conquered territories, I shouldn't be able to get the maximum out of non-core provinces (maybe this is just fixture in my thinking from being a relic of the original EU).
So I think I'd vote no on that one myself, how do others feel? But of course, if you guys want it, it's not the end of the world or anything.
I also agree with the encircled capital one, though I'd consider that level of play to fall under the general 'no exploits' rule.
I'm not as sure about full-IC takeover. Axis is at a disadvantage, true. They need some skill, luck and courage to win against the Allies superior economy. But I like it that way, that's the fun of playing team Axis
But I've honestly, never turned full-IC takeover on, how big of a help is it?
And actually, in my experience playing Germany, I feel like I run out of manpower before anything else is a problem, by late game I feel like I have ample IC as Germany without it, the limiting factors being the manpower & possibly rares. And perhaps less importantly, I've always felt the IC penalty was fair for conquered territories, I shouldn't be able to get the maximum out of non-core provinces (maybe this is just fixture in my thinking from being a relic of the original EU).
So I think I'd vote no on that one myself, how do others feel? But of course, if you guys want it, it's not the end of the world or anything.
Yes I agree on the re-wording of it too.
True, but this assumes all players agree on what is and isn't an exploit from the start, I hope it's a correction assumption.
Using the 1941 scenario as an example for Germany and Japan:I'm not as sure about full-IC takeover. Axis is at a disadvantage, true. They need some skill, luck and courage to win against the Allies superior economy. But I like it that way, that's the fun of playing team Axis
But I've honestly, never turned full-IC takeover on, how big of a help is it?
*Full IC off = Germany: 390/300 Japan: 176/126
*Full IC on = Germany: 548/421 Japan: 201/144
EDIT: To put this in perspective, using the 1936 scenario as a baseline (as, AFAIK, the later scenarios give more IC then any player could possibly build when compared to 1936)
*UK (including India) + USA + USSR = 588 base IC (114(+40) + 283 + 151)
*Germany + Italy + Japan = 320 base IC (153 + 66 + 101)
I don't meant to be sarcastic, but there are many more things IC can do then just spam units. With Full IC comes Full resources, so Germany would still struggle with rares, but not to a massive extent (if that was a potential fear of Full IC).
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I've added the other two to the rules on post 1.
Now about the full IC thingy, maybe we could have a vote? (or do you have another idea?).
I am fine both ways. It is not like if we choose one of the options I won't want to play
Now about the full IC thingy, maybe we could have a vote? (or do you have another idea?).
I am fine both ways. It is not like if we choose one of the options I won't want to play
Hey guys,
Never played a multiplayer game before. I would like to play As nationalist China or France if that is possible.
As for the mod, never played it, I'll try to find it and check it out.
Never played a multiplayer game before. I would like to play As nationalist China or France if that is possible.
As for the mod, never played it, I'll try to find it and check it out.
I tried the mod, the Ai is amazing. But the puppet india is kinda retarded, it's 1942 I play France, and India has got more IC than I do.
Sure Thibault.
Who will it be, Nat. China or france?
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So it is decided. We start Monday 1st July at 10:00 CEST
Who will it be, Nat. China or france?
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So it is decided. We start Monday 1st July at 10:00 CEST
India is highly dependant on UK resource convoys to feed that IC though, so an efficient axis players can wreck havoc on the Indian ability to produce and maintain stuff by raiding UK convoys.
Anyhow, im afraid I wont be available untill around 3 pm CEST on weekdays, at earliest 2 pm CEST if I go earlier to work. After that I often have the rest of the evening relatively free, except usually on mondays and thursdays I got football at 9 pm CEST. On weekends I can have free timetables so starting times wont matter, except on sundays I also got football, starting at 6.30 pm CEST. Football usually take 2 hours.
Hope I calculated the times correctly and the timetables arent too troublesome, can work something out if it is. AI Japan is fairly efficient in any case and can always give other Axis members military control of Japan so they can wage the war in China, I can then jump in when I come around or something.
EDIT: Will try to hasten a new update for the 36 scenario to get it done before monday
Hmm... should we then say from 2pm to 9pm CEST on Monday (or is that too far off for you @DesertFoxx?)
Just to clarify, are we having a single session per week or multiple ones whenever everyone are available?
Well, we talked about playing as much as we can from the 1st to the 11th. After that some of us couldn't for like a week (I'm back the 20th). After that we could see how available people are
Most of all it depends on how available people are I suppose...
4. USA cannot voluntarily join the war unless the UK is invaded or any part of the Americas is invaded by the Axis
Think there should be an addition here, that if Japan DoWs the Allies, USA can join them. Also, I think its alright if USA is allowed to join the Allies at December 1941, even if none of the "triggers" have been met.
Think there should be an addition here, that if Japan DoWs the Allies, USA can join them. Also, I think its alright if USA is allowed to join the Allies at December 1941, even if none of the "triggers" have been met.
I'd love to play that whole time, but that's the middle of the night for me. That being said, I'd hate to stall the game on account of my schedule. So maybe I could join you for the first few hours?
In which case it'd be better if someone else took the USA and I could play France, and when I'm not available, just give mil. control to the UK. Unfortunately, the AI'd research some dumb things for me, but at least the game wouldn't be held up.
In which case it'd be better if someone else took the USA and I could play France, and when I'm not available, just give mil. control to the UK. Unfortunately, the AI'd research some dumb things for me, but at least the game wouldn't be held up.
In the modified scenario alot of the AI's research dumbness has been toned down, so things should be fine, unless you are planning to go for massed armoured divisions or some other curious strategy.
Oh, cool, glad to hear. I commented without thinking about the mod, in vanilla the AI, well they really want me to have something like the materials plants and other things I don't have much use for.
. And no, I don't think I'd try to rush armor with France, I'm not sure how effective that'd be against a human Germany anywways
Unfortunately, I'm afraid I really could only play for a couple hours at that point, that's midnight my time, and sadly I've got work later that morning.
. And no, I don't think I'd try to rush armor with France, I'm not sure how effective that'd be against a human Germany anywways
Unfortunately, I'm afraid I really could only play for a couple hours at that point, that's midnight my time, and sadly I've got work later that morning.
Well, let's begin at 2pm CEST tomorrow
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