Joining Vassals Wars...is this working as intended?

[DrewBledsoe]

Had it a few times now...I'll quickly illuminate.

I'm the King of `X`, and one of my daring/strong vassals attacks nation `Y`. Well I dow on `Y`, as I have other claims on them, and win. I now have the option to join my vassals war, which in effect means I take over the war for him/her. So even though I have a `just signed 5 year treaty` with Y , I get to attack them immediately again, with no negative modifiers.....doesn't feel right.

N.B. I've had this as different Kings. The wars I was `taking over` for my Dukes were never Holy War or the like. They were always either strong/weak or de jure claims.

 

[Sirrobert1]

Actually I think vassal wars can only be joined for a Cursade and a regular claim. Not holy wars.

As for the treaty: That only really counts if you start a war with them. You're just joining an existing one

 

[zijistark]

I think any CB that isn't is_holy_war = yes and has can_ask_to_join_war = yes (which also applies to random third parties) qualifies. This is WAD, yes, and it's also hard-coded. Change came in the 2.1.x series.

I think it's rather neat, frankly.

 

[DrewBledsoe]

Thanks for reply I'll try not to abuse it then....again I'll illustrate.

Really fun Salian game atm, 867 start its now around 1000 AD. HRE never got formed, but now Saxony, Franken and Bavaria are all separate nations, I'm Franken. I've just taken a piece of Lothringen, and made peace. Now my largest Duke declares on Lothringen in their crippled state, and I take over the war. The abuse is that I have my full intact stack from my war, just sitting on their border. I can just rampage their lands, crushing every mini stack before they have any chance of merging. Far too automatic.

Maybe have to introduce some house rules of my own....

 

[zijistark]

Thanks for reply I'll try not to abuse it then....again I'll illustrate.

Really fun Salian game atm, 867 start its now around 1000 AD. HRE never got formed, but now Saxony, Franken and Bavaria are all separate nations, I'm Franken. I've just taken a piece of Lothringen, and made peace. Now my largest Duke declares on Lothringen in their crippled state, and I take over the war. The abuse is that I have my full intact stack from my war, just sitting on their border. I can just rampage their lands, crushing every mini stack before they have any chance of merging. Far too automatic.

Maybe have to introduce some house rules of my own....

Can always pass the full king's peace.

 

[Sqwerlpunk]

I constantly used this to stop vassals from expanding when I didn't want them to expand in one of my games.

Was pretty funny to offer to "help" my vassal then immediately surrendering, costing him heavily in prestige/gold while walking away with a big opinion boost.

 

[zijistark]

Was pretty funny to offer to "help" my vassal then immediately surrendering, costing him heavily in prestige/gold while walking away with a big opinion boost.

Hahah, that's just plain rude!

 

[DrewBledsoe]

In Germany? In anywhere in fact. The only medieval place this ever got passed in was France in around 1290 AD ...so no lol